257 Weatherby thoughts?

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by Dean2

100 Grain TTSX Boat Tail, Weatherby brass, CCI 215 and 7828SSC powder, CAOL 3.225. Found a .4 group for 3 shots, very close to max, work your way up.

I got all that plus fed 215 primers, 7828ssc will be tough to find haha perhaps there's another powder that works similar

Thanks

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

Pretty sure they were 100 grain TSX going out of a custom gun that had a 28” barrel...Dad’s theory was both bucks were fairly close therefor the bullets penciled through them at lightning speed and never had a chance to open up... .

Nope. Bullets moving too fast to have time to open up is a myth that has been proven false by stop action photography and various media .
Cat

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

If you're going to send a light bullet down range...do it with lots of speed.
Who was it that said "speed kills"?

Roy Weatherby.

Grizz

[C&C Outdoors]

Originally Posted by DirtShooter

I got all that plus fed 215 primers, 7828ssc will be tough to find haha perhaps there's another powder that works similar

Thanks

I use federal 215 mag primers along with imr 7828ssc for my 300wby mag. Absolutely great results. Imr 7828ssc is harder to find but found a place with some in stock here in alberta

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Nope. Bullets moving too fast to have time to open up is a myth that has been proven false by stop action photography and various media .
Cat

Here is just one instance that disproves the moving too fast to "expand" theory, although it is not new, it is just not true.
https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/bl...o-fast-expand/

Cat

[fishnguy]

^ Good article, Cat.

That rifle sounds like a nice one, Borden Timberline. I have never heard of it before. Found something new. Thanks.

[Halfton]

The original Barnes X bullet I believe was inconsistent in how it expanded or failed to on occasion. But I have never heard, seen or read of actual complaints about the newer TSX, TTSX or the LRX failing in any way to do what they are supposed to do when shot at any reasonable hunting range.

Jim

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Nope. Bullets moving too fast to have time to open up is a myth that has been proven false by stop action photography and various media .
Cat

Must just have been some bad bullets then.

[marky_mark]

I just think that the ttsx’s doesn’t expand enough to transfer as much energy to consistently anchor animals.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

I just think that the ttsx’s doesn’t expand enough to transfer as much energy to consistently anchor animals.

That is why it is nice to have multiple choices these days .Cat

[jeprli]

3 out of 5 whitetail dropped on the spot, 2 ran for 50-60 yards, 1 moose droped where it stood.

All animals that dropped on the spot were neck shots. 2 that ran were broadside heart/lung shots. Most shots were taken inside 100 yards. All shot with 100 ttsx out of 257 weatherby.

Don't have a bunch of experience with guns like some do here but I have to say this cartridge with "that bullet" worked every time for me.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by jeprli

3 out of 5 whitetail dropped on the spot, 2 ran for 50-60 yards, 1 moose droped where it stood.

All animals that dropped on the spot were neck shots. 2 that ran were broadside heart/lung shots. Most shots were taken inside 100 yards. All shot with 100 ttsx out of 257 weatherby.

Don't have a bunch of experience with guns like some do here but I have to say this cartridge with "that bullet" worked every time for me.

Neck shots are 100% irresponsible

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Neck shots are 100% irresponsible

Now let's not start that nonsense. You shoot them how you want, let others shoot how they like. As long as the critter dies, and by all accounts they did, the goal was accomplished.

This is the same line of reasoning people use to say bow hunting isn't responsible. There are enough anti hunters picking us apart, we don't need to do it to each other.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Now let's not start that nonsense. You shoot them how you want, let others shoot how they like. As long as the critter dies, and by all accounts they did, the goal was accomplished.

Lol 👍
A lot of variables come into play with poor shoot placement

[jeprli]

That depends, I would not take neck shots without rifle support, and by saying "neck" i mean high shoulder/neck transition. Not something i would attempt outside of 75 yards.

Would i attempt to shoot animals this way in a reckless manner and maximise my chances of wounding or losing an animal? Not in a million years, if i have any doubts I'll wait for right oportunity.No one is going hungry here and i have nothing to prove to anyone let alone myself.

So far i recovered every animal i took a shot at.

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Neck shots are 100% irresponsible

Didn't you shoot your grizzly in the ass this year?

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by DirtShooter

Didn't you shoot your grizzly in the ass this year?

I think that was shot number 4 or 5
1-4 where through the chest
When it started to run, I wasn’t being fussy.
Hitting it in the ass stopped it from running

The other grizzly I shot was with my 338 rum
It was dead right there

Tell me what happened with yours?

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

I think that was shot number 4 or 5
1-4 where through the chest
When it started to run, I wasn’t being fussy.
Hitting it in the ass stopped it from running

The other grizzly I shot was with my 338 rum
It was dead right there

Tell me what happened with yours?

Well I didn't max my visa out hunting this year, that's what happened to mine.

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by C&C Outdoors

I use federal 215 mag primers along with imr 7828ssc for my 300wby mag. Absolutely great results. Imr 7828ssc is harder to find but found a place with some in stock here in alberta

I found a place searching the net last night, might have to make the drive later today

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by DirtShooter

Well I didn't max my visa out hunting this year, that's what happened to mine.

I paid less for that bear than some people blow on smokes in a month

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

I think that was shot number 4 or 5
1-4 where through the chest
When it started to run, I wasn’t being fussy.
Hitting it in the ass stopped it from running

The other grizzly I shot was with my 338 rum
It was dead right there

Tell me what happened with yours?

Golly...you sure gave me the gears for hitting a moose in the arse with a second shot even though nothing was needed after the first one. I even got a 3rd into it at the opposite end lol. After the first one I wasn't being fussy either, also shooting through a 100 yards of trees freehand at that point.

Guess you'll have to refrain from some of those comments going forward now that you're part of the 'shoot em in the arse' club...or is it just being 'handy with a bolt gun' club?.

p.s. A Grendel would have done a better job on your last sheep.

and yes I'm not sure if the ban was meant to be until dec whatever 2022 and an oversight before the button was clicked or if part of the overall plan regarding that other thread? either way if this is my only post for a year?...worth it

p.s.s Nyksta - the 40mm diamondback vortex sunshade does work on Trijicon accupoint! thanks man

[EZM]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Neck shots are 100% irresponsible

I had a cow elk tag a few years ago. Ranged it at 104 yards. Was feeding head down. From a prone position, was calm as we were watching them for a while, and complete confidence with the rifle and my ability to hit the target, was taking the head shot a bad idea? The results were Elk down on the spot, no meat lost and could drive the truck into the field right up to it and dress it.

Was that a bad choice?

My point is - it depends on the situation.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

Golly...you sure gave me the gears for hitting a moose in the arse with a second shot even though nothing was needed after the first one. I even got a 3rd into it at the opposite end lol. After the first one I wasn't being fussy either, also shooting through a 100 yards of trees freehand at that point.

Guess you'll have to refrain from some of those comments going forward now that you're part of the 'shoot em in the arse' club...or is it just being 'handy with a bolt gun' club?.

p.s. A Grendel would have done a better job on your last sheep.

and yes I'm not sure if the ban was meant to be until dec whatever 2022 and an oversight before the button was clicked or if part of the overall plan regarding that other thread? either way if this is my only post for a year?...worth it

p.s.s Nyksta - the 40mm diamondback vortex sunshade does work on Trijicon accupoint! thanks man

I thought you were banned again?

[brewster29]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

I think that was shot number 4 or 5
1-4 where through the chest
When it started to run, I wasn’t being fussy.
Hitting it in the ass stopped it from running

The other grizzly I shot was with my 338 rum
It was dead right there

Tell me what happened with yours?

Should’ve been using a 6.5 Grandma…er Grendel.

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

I thought you were banned again?

you wish, happy holidays, well I may be, technical error is my suspicion, anyway welcome to the butt shootin club

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by brewster29

Should’ve been using a 6.5 Grandma

I like this! Was wondering what decent nicknames could be had but don't want to completely hijack the thread lol. Back to 4x the recoil with the ole two fiddy seven roy.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by EZM

I had a cow elk tag a few years ago. Ranged it at 104 yards. Was feeding head down. From a prone position, was calm as we were watching them for a while, and complete confidence with the rifle and my ability to hit the target, was taking the head shot a bad idea? The results were Elk down on the spot, no meat lost and could drive the truck into the field right up to it and dress it.

Was that a bad choice?

My point is - it depends on the situation.

The point I'm trying to make is that neck shots have a higher margin for error that comes when you miss the cns. Where do you get more meat from? The ribs or the neck?

Head shots are effective, obviously. But i find them to be a little disrespectful to the animal. Which is just a personal opinion

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

you wish, happy holidays, well I may be, technical error is my suspicion, anyway welcome to the butt shootin club

[kingrat]

If you havent shot a butt you havent hunted long enough. I'm a firm believer in you shoot until they drop so I've shot a butt or two.

[270person]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Neck shots are 100% irresponsible

Not really right? Both of my bucks were neck shots this year and neither so much as kicked when they hit the ground. Mule buck at 325 broadside, I overheld a bit too much but the ttsx snapped his vertebra then deflected down and left and lodged up against he left side scapula. I've never seen an animal hit the ground that fast and that hard in 40 years of hunting. Both front legs splayed out to the sides. Couldn't find the entry hole until he was fully skinned

Whitetail was facing me at 150. Midway up neck hit in the front, out the back, spine snapped. Ground fell out from under him. He was dead by the time I got the scope back on him. Not so much as a quiver. Zero meat destroyed on either and no blood in body cavity to slop around in.

I'll take a neck shot every time it's presented and at a feasible range. Big target, minimal blood inside, and never a step after impact. Lots more animals lieing dead in the bush and never found from high behind shoulder and mid body shots imo.

Where on body was your last ram hit? I was trying to ID the bone in your one pic but old eyes.