783 warning!!!

big_foot184 · #1 07-07-2015, 08:30 PM

I have just bought a Remington 783 in 30-06 at the Edmonton cabelas. I had bought a nikon prostaff scope and mounted it using Weaver 1" top mount and base. THE ACTION DOES NOT CLEAR THE SCOPE. I now have a damaged scope and I am returning the mounts for a larger size even after employee advice.

DON'T GET 1" MOUNTS FOR THE REMINGTON 783 IF YOU HAVE A 40mm SCOPE.

7mmremmag · #2 07-07-2015, 08:38 PM

I dont think the 1" mounts are your issue. When the size 1" = 25mm or 30mm mounts are referenced that is the tube size of the scope not the height of the rings. So if the store associate told you that you needed 1" rings, he was in fact right. But obviously advised you on the wrong height of rings. Possibly you bought low rings when in fact you needed medium and maybe even possibly high. I highly doubt with a 40mm scope that you would need high rings though

Pathfinder76 · #3 07-07-2015, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by big_foot184

I have just bought a Remington 783 in 30-06 at the Edmonton cabelas. I had bought a nikon prostaff scope and mounted it using Weaver 1" top mount and base. THE ACTION DOES NOT CLEAR THE SCOPE. I now have a damaged scope and I am returning the mounts for a larger size even after employee advice.

DON'T GET 1" MOUNTS FOR THE REMINGTON 783 IF YOU HAVE A 40mm SCOPE.

Really?

Think low, medium, or high.

CanuckShooter · #4 07-07-2015, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

Really?

Think low, medium, or high.

I think you may be right, mediums should do the trick?

elkhunter11 · #5 07-07-2015, 09:00 PM

The person at Cabela's may have sold you the wrong ring height, but if you mounted the scope yourself, and you didn't realize that you were driving the scope into the barrel or action, as you tightened the ring screws , then you damaged your scope, not the clerk at Cabela's.

Out of curiosity, did you have both the rifle and scope at Cabela's to help the clerk to determine the proper ring height?

north american hunter · #6 07-07-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

Really?

Think low, medium, or high.

Yup

dewalt18 · #7 07-07-2015, 09:04 PM

Can't believe I'm about to write this, but maybe you should have let cabelas mount that for you

Bushrat · #8 07-07-2015, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dewalt18

Can't believe I'm about to write this, but maybe you should have let cabelas mount that for you

Too funny lol

big_foot184 · #9 07-07-2015, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

The person at Cabela's may have sold you the wrong ring height, but if you mounted the scope yourself, and you didn't realize that you were driving the scope into the barrel or action, as you tightened the ring screws , then you damaged your scope, not the clerk at Cabela's.

Out of curiosity, did you have both the rifle and scope at Cabela's to help the clerk to determine the proper ring height?

I bought the rings base and scope at the same time. As for the damage on the scope it is due to the bolt
scratching on the sides.

big_foot184 · #10 07-07-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

I think you may be right, mediums should do the trick?

The mediums are what I have now

elkhunter11 · #11 07-07-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by big_foot184

I bought the rings base and scope at the same time. As for the damage on the scope it is due to the bolt
scratching on the sides.

It might be wise for you to get some assistance from someone experienced in mounting scopes.

big_foot184 · #12 07-07-2015, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dewalt18

Can't believe I'm about to write this, but maybe you should have let cabelas mount that for you

The mount is fine, the bolt just scratches on the side of the scope when used.

big_foot184 · #13 07-07-2015, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 7mmremmag

I dont think the 1" mounts are your issue. When the size 1" = 25mm or 30mm mounts are referenced that is the tube size of the scope not the height of the rings. So if the store associate told you that you needed 1" rings, he was in fact right. But obviously advised you on the wrong height of rings. Possibly you bought low rings when in fact you needed medium and maybe even possibly high. I highly doubt with a 40mm scope that you would need high rings though

I have medium now, I will look into high.

dewalt18 · #14 07-07-2015, 09:58 PM

Stop using it.

big_foot184 · #15 07-07-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dewalt18

Stop using it.

The damage happened after the first use of the bolt. Haven't used since.

KBF · #16 07-07-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by big_foot184

The damage happened after the first use of the bolt. Haven't used since.

Any pics?

dewalt18 · #17 07-07-2015, 10:33 PM

I know I'm totally coming off as an arse, but im really having a hard time understanding how you can be upset about a damaged scope, if the damage is from the bolt contacting it while cycling. How hard did you cycle the bolt? One of the first rules of anything mechanical is that if you have to force it, it's probably not right. I don't claim to be an expert, but I've mounted more than a few scopes, and before the upper ring gets tightened down I do a general check to see that things are good; eye relief set, leveled, no contact with the bolt or the hammer if it's a lever gun, clears the barrel or rear sight etc. I just don't understand how you were able to damage your scope with the bolt.

Full Curl Earl · #18 07-07-2015, 10:36 PM

Something's Amis, pics would help lots. I don't believe the bolt should make contact with the scope. Base or ring height should not matter for that contact. I'm wondering if the bolt handle is defective. Would be odd for sure.

dewalt18 · #19 07-07-2015, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Something's Amis, pics would help lots. I don't believe the bolt should make contact with the scope. Base or ring height should not matter for that contact. I'm wondering if the bolt handle is defective. Would be odd for sure.

I think it would be possible with the wrong base/ring combination. I'm unable to use a rear butler creek scope cover on my 700 bdl as the bolt handle passes the scope to close and hits the little thumb button on the cover

Full Curl Earl · #20 07-07-2015, 10:49 PM

Yes they are close and I have mounted many that cannot wear scope covers, but usually on low rings, which is where we like to set up our scopes for a good cheek weld. Modern firearms are designed to be mounted with the lowest ring set, and the bolt handle is contoured for this. I of course may be mistaken, and just not run into the issue with this scope combo, but I would bet there is more to this.

Dean2 · #21 07-08-2015, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by big_foot184

The mount is fine, the bolt just scratches on the side of the scope when used.

That would qualify as definitely NOT FINE mounting.

ACKLEY ABE · #22 07-08-2015, 07:07 AM

......on a good note, my understanding is, that once you get your scope on and everything in order, the 783's are a pretty decent rifle.

elkhunter11 · #23 07-08-2015, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Something's Amis, pics would help lots. I don't believe the bolt should make contact with the scope. Base or ring height should not matter for that contact. I'm wondering if the bolt handle is defective. Would be odd for sure.

Mount scopes on a few CZ rifles, bolt clearance is often an issue.

tchardy1972 · #24 07-08-2015, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Mount scopes on a few CZ rifles, bolt clearance is often an issue.

Not to mention, Nikon scopes have very large eye pieces. Even with my Stiller I ran into issues with a monarch 3.

Grizzly Adams · #25 07-08-2015, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by big_foot184

I have just bought a Remington 783 in 30-06 at the Edmonton cabelas. I had bought a nikon prostaff scope and mounted it using Weaver 1" top mount and base. THE ACTION DOES NOT CLEAR THE SCOPE. I now have a damaged scope and I am returning the mounts for a larger size even after employee advice.

DON'T GET 1" MOUNTS FOR THE REMINGTON 783 IF YOU HAVE A 40mm SCOPE.

If you couldn't see there was a problem developing, you have no business tackling a job like this.

Grizz

brewster29 · #26 07-08-2015, 08:55 AM

I second Grizz's comments.

Slamming a bolt into the side of the scope is not the fault of Remington, scope mounts, or Cabelas.

Full Curl Earl · #27 07-08-2015, 09:40 AM

Always has to be folks picking a guy apart. Everything said by the peanut gallery is now quite obvious to the OP, and anyone in this sport early or long enough is going to bend, twist and brake things. Ease up and offer help instead of ridicule.

elkhunter11 · #28 07-08-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Always has to be folks picking a guy apart. Everything said by the peanut gallery is now quite obvious to the OP, and anyone in this sport early or long enough is going to bend, twist and brake things. Ease up and offer help instead of ridicule.

To be fair, had the OP accepted responsibility for damaging the scope, instead of trying to place the blame on someone else, the responses would likely have been different. His attitude was a huge factor in the type of responses that were posted.

marxman · #29 07-08-2015, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Always has to be folks picking a guy apart. Everything said by the peanut gallery is now quite obvious to the OP, and anyone in this sport early or long enough is going to bend, twist and brake things. Ease up and offer help instead of ridicule.

Yes but the surprise and blame is out of place as is the assumption that anybody is waiting to fall into this trap. To be fair people with less experience might assume that cabelas advice would be good but who is going to know everything about different ring scope reciever combos there are thousands we know that not e erybody does

Dettah Wolf · #30 07-08-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dewalt18

Can't believe I'm about to write this, but maybe you should have let cabelas mount that for you

I can't believe you wrote that either!! LOL!!