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Breaking news attack in Toronto
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04-23-2018, 03:22 PM
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I hate to be a pessimist, but I suspect there will be more attacks to come.
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04-23-2018, 03:24 PM
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Nine people are dead, and sixteen more are injured, many critically, after a rental van mowed down pedestrians for close to three kilometers in North York Monday afternoon.
From Globe
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04-23-2018, 03:26 PM
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That cop in the video has some balls, looks like the idiot tried to get shot with his repeated "gun" pulling.
Yet another senseless loss of too many lifes for nothing. Crazy times we're living in.
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04-23-2018, 03:37 PM
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A damn shame!
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04-23-2018, 03:45 PM
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I sure miss the days of 30-50 years ago when life seemed so much better, less drama in the world, I don't remember things being so stupid back then..sorry to hear about more loss of lives for no good reason at all..
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04-23-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
Nine people are dead, and sixteen more are injured, many critically, after a rental van mowed down pedestrians for close to three kilometers in North York Monday afternoon.
From Globe
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Very sad news.
On another note (and mods, if this angers anyone, please delete it!)...
Time to ban vehicles....yeah I know .... a silly argument. But that's just how anti firearms groups spin it. Shame we can't focus the public's attention on the fact that it's not the tool that does the killing....it's the deranged person.
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04-23-2018, 04:13 PM
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This doesn’t surprise me anymore. It’s becoming regular occurrence. Before long this type of thing will not even be newsworthy. Sad.
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04-23-2018, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
This doesn’t surprise me anymore. It’s becoming regular occurrence. Before long this type of thing will not even be newsworthy. Sad.
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When the Paris truck attack happened I thought the same, and now it's here. Edmonton had one, now TO. Scary stuff as you can't defend against it.
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04-23-2018, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Zip
I sure miss the days of 30-50 years ago when life seemed so much better, less drama in the world, I don't remember things being so stupid back then..sorry to hear about more loss of lives for no good reason at all..
Sadly
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Ah yes the good old days when all we had to worry about was the threat of nuclear annihilation 100 times over, but if you hid under your desk at school all would be ok. I Guess all the lead paint and asbestos in the school would save us.
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04-23-2018, 05:05 PM
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If you watch the footage of the arrest the guy does fake draws and claims he has a gun.
Even stranger though is the three people walking by nonchalantly in the back ground - like WTF
scroll down to the take-down vid here https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/live...strian-toronto
Yuen said one suspect was in custody, the van had been located and all available resources had been mobilized to investigate the situation. Sources told CTV’s Mercedes Stephenson that the suspect is Alek Minassian.
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04-23-2018, 05:30 PM
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I can’t believe those three idiots that were feet away from the suspect while police guns were drawn. Are they that stupid?!?
Another spineless attack on innocent people.
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04-23-2018, 05:47 PM
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Wow! That maniac wanted death by cop something fierce! He should have bought at least a replica pistol to wave around, now we have to pay for his permanent accommodations for however long that takes......
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04-23-2018, 06:14 PM
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Ah yes the good old days when all we had to worry about was the threat of nuclear annihilation 100 times over, but if you hid under your desk at school all would be ok. I Guess all the lead paint and asbestos in the school would save us.
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So in your mind these are the same?
I know the police officer who was involved in the Edmonton incident last year.
Many people in Toronto will know the victims of the incident in Toronto today.
Tell me Gramps, how many people to you know that were killed in nuclear wars in the 50's. I'm also from that time, and yes it was in the back of your mind (though realistically not that much in Canada)...but now one does know that some nutbar in a truck (or heaven forbid a gun) decides he's going to have his moment of fame.
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04-23-2018, 06:24 PM
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There were a lot fewer mind altering prescription drugs available in the 1950's though the 1970's. All the time its medicate, medicate, medicate, not so much get out of your bsmt/den/dark hidey hole and get some blasted exercise.
A serious question comes to mind for me. How many, if any, mass killers have been well exercised, athletic people? Burn off that rage at the gym, on the rink, the pitch or in the woods folks. When you get there you'll wonder what that frustrated gobbledygook in your head was all about in the first place......
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04-23-2018, 06:41 PM
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There were a lot fewer mind altering prescription drugs available in the 1950's though the 1970's. All the time its medicate, medicate, medicate, not so much get out of your bsmt/den/dark hidey hole and get some blasted exercise.
A serious question comes to mind for me. How many, if any, mass killers have been well exercised, athletic people? Burn off that rage at the gym, on the rink, the pitch or in the woods folks. When you get there you'll wonder what that frustrated gobbledygook in your head was all about in the first place......
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They also had government sponsored mental health institutions where people who posed a risk could be institutionalized and kept safe from their demons.
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04-23-2018, 07:00 PM
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I am sad and mad
Sad because of the innocent Canadians that lost there lives
Mad because Trutard, intentionally brings pieces of crap like this here, with these types of ideologies, gives them special treatment, enables them ( religious exemption, million dollar payouts, hold hands, sing cumbaya ) and some how thinks he can rehab rapists and murderers?
Trutard opened the dang flood gates!
Should have been him under that van!
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04-23-2018, 07:30 PM
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Don’t take this the wrong way as this is a tragedy, without question. But I really do hope it turns out to be one of these “refugees” that our oh-so-gracious PM has let in. Maybe there will finally be some light she’d in Canada over this before we get as bad as England or Australia or Germany.
Obviously condolences go out to the families and we can only hope for a swift end to the justice side of this event.
Kudo’s to the cop for showing the restraint in not shooting him, but at the same time I kinda wish he did when he was challenged.
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04-23-2018, 08:04 PM
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Death count has risen to 10. Utterly unnecessary and cruel. How do people come to a thought process where they not only rationalize killing total strangers but actually carry it out? This guy even utterly failed at suicide by cop, you have to be a loser of inconceivable magnitude to not get that right. (of course he already proved that, I'm just noting his other failings). I'm torn on this, I really wish he was killed in an extraordinarily painful manner, but I'm also kind of happy that he failed at something he was wanting to achieve.
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04-23-2018, 08:40 PM
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Sad event today.
And lots of crap posts as usual!
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04-23-2018, 08:49 PM
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Retard was also a legit medical term for how many years? Soon mentally ill or intellectual disability as the term is these days will be offensive. Political correctness is to blame as people get their feelings hurt over every little thing they don't like.
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I don't really have any problems with people using the word. In this instance though, I do have a problem with it because in all likelihood it was not a person with severe mental disability who committed the act of violence.
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I am sad and mad
Sad because of the innocent Canadians that lost there lives
Mad because Trutard, intentionally brings pieces of crap like this here, with these types of ideologies, gives them special treatment, enables them ( religious exemption, million dollar payouts, hold hands, sing cumbaya ) and some how thinks he can rehab rapists and murderers?
Trutard opened the dang flood gates!
Should have been him under that van!
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Do you even know anything about the guy? Alek Minassian sounds like an Armenian to me. How many Armenians do you know who belong to the religion you refer to as "them"?
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Originally Posted by Scottmisfits
Don’t take this the wrong way as this is a tragedy, without question. But I really do hope it turns out to be one of these “refugees” that our oh-so-gracious PM has let in. Maybe there will finally be some light she’d in Canada over this before we get as bad as England or Australia or Germany.
Obviously condolences go out to the families and we can only hope for a swift end to the justice side of this event.
Kudo’s to the cop for showing the restraint in not shooting him, but at the same time I kinda wish he did when he was challenged.
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Doubt it is a smart thing to wish for no matter what the circumstances are. Hope it was an isolated act committed by a random person with mental problems or something similar.
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Originally Posted by Scottmisfits
Don’t take this the wrong way as this is a tragedy, without question. But I really do hope it turns out to be one of these “refugees” that our oh-so-gracious PM has let in. Maybe there will finally be some light she’d in Canada over this before we get as bad as England or Australia or Germany.
Obviously condolences go out to the families and we can only hope for a swift end to the justice side of this event.
Kudo’s to the cop for showing the restraint in not shooting him, but at the same time I kinda wish he did when he was challenged.
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What other way is for us to take your “hope” but the wrong way? Should be ashamed of yourself and if you really believe in consequences ... give yourself a two month self imposed suspension!
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04-23-2018, 08:57 PM
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Doubt it is a smart thing to wish for no matter what the circumstances are. Hope it was an isolated act committed by a random person with mental problems or something similar.
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I hope it’s isolated as well. I’m just sick of “mental problems” being the scapegoat. Holding people responsible for their actions is what’s needed.
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What other way is for us to take your “hope” but the wrong way? Should be ashamed of yourself and if you really believe in consequences ... give yourself a two month self imposed suspension!
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You have a problem with my opinion, I get that. ASI said before, this is something that should never happen and it’s sick to see it here, or anywhere. If you actually comprehend what I said, it stems down to a better vetting system rather than the almost open border policy that the current federal Liberals want. Nothing insulating or beyond truth in my statements. I respect your opinion, please respect mine without the insulting.
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04-23-2018, 09:03 PM
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Global News states that fortunately, no guns were fired (when the officer had his pistol out) or more people could have been hurt....this tragedy was done with a vehicle and they still had to get their gun message out.
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04-23-2018, 09:12 PM
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Regardless of who the murderer is or why he did this doesn't change the fact that many innocent people lost their lives. I just hope that the individual responsible is held accountable for his actions. I also hope that the murderer does not turn out to be an ISIS member that was welcomed back into our country.
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04-23-2018, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CaberTosser
There were a lot fewer mind altering prescription drugs available in the 1950's though the 1970's. All the time its medicate, medicate, medicate, not so much get out of your bsmt/den/dark hidey hole and get some blasted exercise.
A serious question comes to mind for me. How many, if any, mass killers have been well exercised, athletic people? Burn off that rage at the gym, on the rink, the pitch or in the woods folks. When you get there you'll wonder what that frustrated gobbledygook in your head was all about in the first place......
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following WWII there was a massive epidemic of morphine>heroin abuse by those veterans who came home and crime in larger urban settings stateside skyrocketed. then the US had Korea and Vietnam (lsd).
this fellow was enamored by some mass killer stateside who felt he was not being noticed by women.
on a related note, social media is causing a type of social ineptitude (will find article later) and it may/might be likely that a frequency of keyboard warriors will creep out from moms basement to test their fury in real world more often.
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Regardless of who the murderer is or why he did this doesn't change the fact that many innocent people lost their lives. I just hope that the individual responsible is held accountable for his actions. I also hope that the murderer does not turn out to be an ISIS member that was welcomed back into our country.
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I hope he is ISIS( I am NOT saying that I want to see other ISIS returnees start doing this crap, but hopefully the authorities would round-up the rest of them).This country needs a wake-up call ...BADLY!
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So in your mind these are the same?
I know the police officer who was involved in the Edmonton incident last year.
Many people in Toronto will know the victims of the incident in Toronto today.
Tell me Gramps, how many people to you know that were killed in nuclear wars in the 50's. I'm also from that time, and yes it was in the back of your mind (though realistically not that much in Canada)...but now one does know that some nutbar in a truck (or heaven forbid a gun) decides he's going to have his moment of fame.
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Please show me where i said its the same? Anyway assume way as i have no interest to get into a AO ****ing match.
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04-23-2018, 09:48 PM
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Do you even know anything about the guy? Alek Minassian sounds like an Armenian to me. How many Armenians do you know who belong to the religion you refer to as "them"?
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Sounding like its Armenian does not mean that it is. A google of the name brought up one website noting that it was most prevalent in Lebanon as far as % of the populations names go. I'm not saying that he is from Lebanon, but its a heck of a lot more that 'sounds like its from so-and-so land'. That being said, it seems potentially less relevant anyways as it might not even be religiously motivated, so far its sounding like he was very lonely and excessively angry about it based on his social media posts to that effect.
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