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Old 02-22-2017, 03:22 PM
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Anyone using the Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10X44 scope? any good for a medium range rifle in 30.06? what is the benefit of a 30mm tube over a 1" tube? Thanks
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:58 PM
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Its what I use for hunting with self loaded 308 win. The BDC reticle will be pretty close to 100-2-3-4-500m holdovers for 3006 165 gr and 180 grain bullets depending on their BC Shape. the glass is pretty nice for clarity. 30mm is popular for tactical scopes to have lots of adjustment, i dont really know if theres anything else fantastic about 30mm vs 1 inch tubes.... probably more room for bigger lenses and mechanicals.
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Old 02-22-2017, 05:53 PM
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30mm is larger which increases light transmission.
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:00 PM
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Tube size has nothing to do with scope clarity . The larger diameter allows for more adjustment of the reticle. I guess a 30 mm tube body is stronger but kind of a moot point
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:42 PM
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Call me crazy but one of my favorite hunting scopes is the leupold 2x7. Good low end power good high end power for hunting applications and small enough to mount low . It's not a gargantuan of a scope
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:19 PM
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Tube size has nothing to do with scope clarity...
Correct... But it has everything to do with light transmission, which in turn can effect "clarity".

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Old 02-22-2017, 08:06 PM
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Correct... But it has everything to do with light transmission, which in turn can effect "clarity".
Absolutely has nothing to do with tube size. Sorry to disagree .Quality of lenses , coats etc make up light transmission
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:11 PM
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I have a 2.5-10x44 viper on my AR and a viper 4-16 on my 243. Both work well.
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:01 PM
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For about the same price i can get a Z3 3-10x42 and a Viper HS 2.5-10x44. I have not held any in my hands and i live in a hole wich mean only thing i can do is order online. I guess they are both great glass, any + or - to help me take a decision? I know Vortex warranty is unbeatable but id still go with the better scope over the best guarantee... Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:19 PM
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Absolutely has nothing to do with tube size. Sorry to disagree .Quality of lenses , coats etc make up light transmission
Totally agree with you fps plus. My only 30mm scope resides on a 6BR that I shoot at distances far beyond those of typical hunting rifles. Heck, I shot last season's mulie buck at 414 yards with a single 30-06 round from a single shot Browning B78 scoped with an old Leupold M8-6X scope. A 1" tube with friction turrets. Whoda thunk eh?

My first experience with Vortex optics came when I was wanting a target dot scope in a hurry due to an opcoming match. Couldn't get a Leupold which was my first choice, so a Vortex got mounted. After that experience, I've purchased several more Vortex and have never been dissapointed. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them based on my experiences.
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Maybe just a little off the subject, but I've seen a noticeable improvement in low light clarity with my VX2 4-12x50 over my VX2 4-12x40. Some say objective size is insignificant in regards to light transmission with a 50 over a 40, but I disagree. If exit pupil is bigger, more light, right?
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:45 PM
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Anyone using the Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10X44 scope? any good for a medium range rifle in 30.06? what is the benefit of a 30mm tube over a 1" tube? Thanks


I have one on my weatherby Vanguard in 257 wby mag. I have used that scope out to 500m with zero issues.


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Old 02-23-2017, 04:51 PM
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Anyone using the Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10X44 scope? any good for a medium range rifle in 30.06? what is the benefit of a 30mm tube over a 1" tube? Thanks
I have had 2. One for a 270 and one for a 7-08. Both worked well. 30 mm just allows more machinery inside.
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:58 PM
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Correct... But it has everything to do with light transmission, which in turn can effect "clarity".
Actually direct from reps for Vortex and Leupold, it has to do with internal mechanisms to project better image.
Clarity is directly proportional to the quality of the optic.
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:00 PM
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Absolutely has nothing to do with tube size. Sorry to disagree .Quality of lenses , coats etc make up light transmission
Yep^^^^^^
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:09 PM
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Maybe just a little off the subject, but I've seen a noticeable improvement in low light clarity with my VX2 4-12x50 over my VX2 4-12x40. Some say objective size is insignificant in regards to light transmission with a 50 over a 40, but I disagree. If exit pupil is bigger, more light, right?
I once asked Terry Korfth this question and IIRC he said that larger exit pupil= better clarity because the pupil is better able to handle the image.
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Old 02-23-2017, 06:29 PM
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Do you think that perhaps some of you guys over think this "low light" stuff? I've shot my latest mulie buck within a time limit that I was getting very concerned about retrieval of my animal. I don't mean to brag on long shot discussions, but as I've mentioned before and perhaps in other threads, I took my mulie buck with a supposedly cheap Leupold M8-6X at 414 yards within a half hour of legal light. Perhaps, and then maybe some you guys that concentrate on such light magnification and otherwise ought to hone in your shooting skills with more trigger time? Just saying!
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:29 AM
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I had years of great service from my 2 Viper HS (4-16, BDC reticle) but both are gone after having spent time behind Sightrons. I won't slam Vortex but to my untrained eye, the Sightrons are better glass for the money. Whether or not they HAVE better glass is maybe subjective, but I can say with some certainty it'll be a Sightron the next time I need a scope. (bought 2 in the last 2 years)

I'd urge the OP to try and look through a comparably-priced/featured Sightron given the chance. Again, nothing bad to say about the Viper HS, mine were very decent scopes for the money.
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