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Old 09-07-2016, 03:30 PM
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Default Trumps ideas catching on in Europe?

Is this any different than trying to keep illegal migrants out of the US from Mexico?



http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uk-wall...ants-1.3750960

Work on building a wall along the approach road to the French port of Calais to try to stop migrants from jumping aboard trucks bound for the U.K. will begin this month, British officials said.

British Home Office Minister Robert Goodwill said the kilometre-long, four-metre-high wall is part of a $29-million package of security measures agreed to by Britain and France in March.

"We've done the fence and now we're doing the wall," Goodwill said on Tuesday.

Shrubbery has already been cleared on one side of the Rocade road but there was no sign of workers or machinery at the site on Wednesday. A local official said the project would be completed by the end of the year.

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​Calais is home to the "Jungle" camp, where thousands of people fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and Africa are staying in the port city, hoping to reach Britain by stowing away on trucks and trains through the Channel Tunnel.

Calais, France -- Security Fencing -- Sept. 6, 2016
Migrants walk past security fencing at the Jungle migrant camp on Sept. 6 in Calais, France. The U.K. says it will build a four-metre-high wall to prevent migrants from entering Britain from the port city. (Christopher Furlong/Getty)

The camp and a Franco-British border control deal that effectively pushes the British frontier onto mainland France have been hotly debated since Britons voted in a June referendum to leave the European Union.

Vikki Woodfine of law firm DWF, who works with trucking companies, said the wall "is simply a knee-jerk reaction that is unlikely to make a difference in the long run."

Migrants "are increasingly desperate to cross the border and will undoubtedly find a way past it, pushing the death toll even higher in the process," Woodfine said.

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​A British truckers' group said the wall is a poor use of money. Road Haulage Association chief executive Richard Burnett said Wednesday that the funds "would be much better spent on increasing security along the approach roads."

British opposition politicians also criticized the plan. Scottish National Party MP Angus Robertson said Prime Minister Theresa May should be "totally ashamed" of a proposal that echoed presidential candidate Donald Trump's call for a vast wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

A document shown at a public meeting organized by the Port of Calais on July 6 showed the wall would be made of smooth concrete to make it harder to scale, but lined with plants and vegetation on the inside to minimize the visual impact.

France dismantled the southern half of the Jungle camp in February and March and the government said last week it would shut down the rest, but gave no timeframe.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:16 PM
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[QUOTE=dmcbride;3323163]Is this any different than trying to keep illegal migrants out of the US from Mexico?

Conceptually no, in practice, yes. The border between Mexico and the U.S. is over 3,000 kilometers long. They already have a wall for some stretches and were already planning to build more in other stretches.

Not sure what a Trump Wall would look like -- probably bigger and taller and would likely cost billions of dollars. Doable? Definitely. Practical? Not sure.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:02 PM
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Kinda have the thread title backwards. Most Trump "ideas" started in Europe. They lead to World War II.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:05 PM
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Try looking on Youtube.There have been 20 foot high fences along the road to the chunnel for a long time and paid for by the UK.Effing filthy economic migrants have a camp near there that has a population of close to 10,000 and all of them want to invade the UK.If a trucker gets caught with one of them on his truck it is a 1000 pound fine.

These people ARE NOT REFUGEES.....they are economic migrants wanting to cash in on the socialist benefits of UK society....paid for by hard working people.

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Old 09-07-2016, 07:15 PM
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Kinda have the thread title backwards. Most Trump "ideas" started in Europe. They lead to World War II.
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:55 PM
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Kinda have the thread title backwards. Most Trump "ideas" started in Europe. They lead to World War II.
I think you are right about that. Thinking Brexit, Germany and now the U.S. has Trump. Something is going to pop.
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:02 PM
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I think you are right about that. Thinking Brexit, Germany and now the U.S. has Trump. Something is going to pop.
Yep. Sheepdogs are waking up.
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:35 AM
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I think Woodfine summed it up best in that article.

It's a knee-jerk reaction.

Even if you build a 200 foot wall, they'll just go through the front gate, back gate, dig a tunnel or what have you. It'll be more difficult, for sure. Worth it though?

If they wanted to actually accomplish something, they'd start amending laws and policy and then enforce it.
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Old 09-08-2016, 07:45 PM
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Trump's ideas are catching on with some of the biggest liberals in the world.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/investi...377329721.html

The U.S. Secret Service plans to raise the height of the White House security fence by 5 feet and add a new concrete foundation to reduce the risk of fence-jumpers, according to a copy of an agency report obtained by the News4 I-Team.




Billionaire Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg has annoyed locals on the Hawaiian holiday island of Kauai after he began construction a large stone wall around his $100million 750-acre retreat.
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