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07-12-2018, 08:43 PM
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Another Poacher Convicted
Convicted and fined $36000.
https://www.reddeeradvocate.com/news...-act-offences/
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A guide-outfitter was fined $36,000 for hunting out of season and without a licence in Red Deer provincial court on Wednesday.
Richard “Todd” Bunnage, and his now-defunct Cardston-based company Rugged Outfitting, were convicted last month of eight Wildlife Act charges for incidents during guided hunts in the West Country in 2015.
Judge Bert Skinner also banned Bunnage from acting as a guide-outfitter for five years.
The judge said in sentencing that “by not getting the proper licences (Bunnage) was a very poor ambassador for Canada and Alberta.”
Bunnage was guiding U.S. clients when the offences occurred. If word gets out that hiring guide-outfitters could lead to legal issues “this may put this entire industry in jeopardy,” said Skinner.
“So, it’s very important the rules are followed.”
Crown prosecutor Martha O’Connor was seeking $50,000 in fines and a 15-year guide-outfitting prohibition, pointing out Bunnage was already banned from personal recreational hunting for five years after Wildlife Act convictions in 2014.
O’Connor said Bunnage’s actions had the “potential to impact the success of other hunters” and could hurt the reputation of the whole guide-outfitter business.
Defence lawyer Richard Fritze called for smaller fines, arguing Bunnage was not involved in the kind of “blatant and abusive” behaviour that led to large fines and even a prison term in other cases.
There is a “world of difference” in Bunnage’s case, he said.”It’s not like he was gaming the system …”
Fritze also argued that there is a grey area in the province’s hunting licence system because it allows hunters to unknowingly buy invalid licences, adding the facts of the case don’t call for a “sledgehammer approach” in punishment.
Bunnage also addressed the judge, saying he did not realize the hunting licences he had were not considered valid.
“I was not playing the system in any way, shape or form,” said Bunnage.
As part of the decision, the judge ordered that a pair of moose heads and hides taken in the illegal hunts be forfeited. Another head and hide were to be returned to the hunter because it was not connected to a conviction.
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07-12-2018, 09:26 PM
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So much wrong with this!
Where to start
Banned from personal hunting due to wildlife convictions in 2014????????
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07-12-2018, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by burbotman
So much wrong with this!
Where to start
Banned from personal hunting due to wildlife convictions in 2014????????
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just imagine someone with their license suspended for driving under the influence who gets to keep driving his taxi, rig, or school bus... yah, that would be OK
ARG
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In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.
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Originally Posted by sjemac
It has been scientifically proven that a 308 round will not leave your property -- they essentially fall dead at the fence line. But a 38 round, when fired from a handgun, will of its own accord leave your property and destroy any small schools nearby.
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07-12-2018, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher
just imagine someone with their license suspended for driving under the influence who gets to keep driving his taxi, rig, or school bus... yah, that would be OK
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Like in the 80’s when there would be tractors at the small town bars because they couldn’t get impaireds because it was their livelihood?(or something like that)
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07-12-2018, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
Like in the 80’s when there would be tractors at the small town bars because they couldn’t get impaireds because it was their livelihood?(or something like that)
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I always thought it was because you didn't need a license to operate a tractor, kind of like riding a bicycle under the influence (I always figured that one was self correcting )
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In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjemac
It has been scientifically proven that a 308 round will not leave your property -- they essentially fall dead at the fence line. But a 38 round, when fired from a handgun, will of its own accord leave your property and destroy any small schools nearby.
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07-12-2018, 10:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher
I always thought it was because you didn't need a license to operate a tractor, kind of like riding a bicycle under the influence (I always figured that one was self correcting )
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Maybe your right. I just remember something or other about tractors at bars...
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07-12-2018, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher
I always thought it was because you didn't need a license to operate a tractor, kind of like riding a bicycle under the influence (I always figured that one was self correcting )
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Not a lie. I was detained for cycling while on the beers. I was allowed to walk my bike as long as I did not mount it. This was in Edmonton aboot '07.
I walked my bike home and haven't rode on beers since.
I expect rules will become much more stringent as of mid Oct.
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07-13-2018, 09:27 AM
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher
I always thought it was because you didn't need a license to operate a tractor, kind of like riding a bicycle under the influence (I always figured that one was self correcting )
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You can get an impaired operation of a vehicle in Poland for riding a bike drunk. I think horseback is the only way you can't since you just get on and the horse is self driving haha. I've seen it happen many times out in the country.
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07-13-2018, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Edmonton Alberta
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So much fail in one thread
From archery tags to getting “an impaired on a horse or bike or tractor”
Absolutely cannot stand those “wives tales”
If some men were real men, those wives wouldn’t have time to make up tales......🤢🤮
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07-13-2018, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by huntinstuff
so much fail in one thread
from archery tags to getting “an impaired on a horse or bike or tractor”
absolutely cannot stand those “wives tales”
if some men were real men, those wives wouldn’t have time to make up tales......🤢🤮
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lol!!!
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An awful lot of big game was killed with the .30-06 including the big bears before everyone became affluent enough to own a rifle for every species of game they might hunt.
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07-14-2018, 08:21 AM
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Poor guy
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07-14-2018, 09:07 AM
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Banned
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
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A handsome little fine for an idiot!!
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07-14-2018, 10:10 AM
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A non-resident or alien can have an extension into rifle season?
Never heard of that one
What other special privileges do these guides and their hunters get that us residents don't?
What bull..
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07-14-2018, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mountain Guy
A non-resident or alien can have an extension into rifle season?
Never heard of that one
What other special privileges do these guides and their hunters get that us residents don't?
What bull..
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"When authorized " would be the operative wording in Walking Buffalo's quote ,
Dunno if it is common or not, but I doubt it.
Cat
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07-14-2018, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by catnthehat
"When authorized " would be the operative wording in Walking Buffalo's quote ,
Dunno if it is common or not, but I doubt it.
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I guess my question would be ...what would constitute authorization?
His flight was delayed??
Same rules should apply to residents then...but I know that would never happen.
But saying that, it appears it may not be a given as the outfitter thought it easier to play ignorant and work the system rather than take the effort to try and do it right.
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