Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Fishing Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-04-2020, 04:43 PM
Bully Bee Bully Bee is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 11
Default I could scream...

So I love Ultra Light Rods. No stores stock them past 5’6 and I wanted a 7’ for trout. So after searching all I could find in stock was a Daiwa KAGE. So I got it.
It was more than I wanted spend, alMost triple what others wanted. But again nothing was in stock.

Now the new shimano sensilite’s are in as well as okuma sst and celilio are all in stock over at sail.ca and all for 3x less than the Daiwa KAGE.

I know the Daiwa is a “better” rod but you can’t go wrong with the okuma and I feel a bit funny fishing for trout with a $225 rod.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-04-2020, 04:51 PM
HuyFishin's Avatar
HuyFishin HuyFishin is offline
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Edmonton Alberta
Posts: 1,879
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully Bee View Post
So I love Ultra Light Rods. No stores stock them past 5’6 and I wanted a 7’ for trout. So after searching all I could find in stock was a Daiwa KAGE. So I got it.
It was more than I wanted spend, alMost triple what others wanted. But again nothing was in stock.

Now the new shimano sensilite’s are in as well as okuma sst and celilio are all in stock over at sail.ca and all for 3x less than the Daiwa KAGE.

I know the Daiwa is a “better” rod but you can’t go wrong with the okuma and I feel a bit funny fishing for trout with a $225 rod.
This is just the way it is. Dont forget you cant compare a 225dollar rod to a 70 dollar rod and expect it to be good. Hang on to what you have and be happy.

I have a 300 dollar gloomis ultralight and I wish it was a fast action. The action is to slow for me. But It is what it is and i'm used to it now haha.
__________________

YouTube:@huyfishin Fishing Videos!

Respect wildlife
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-04-2020, 05:10 PM
Dewey Cox's Avatar
Dewey Cox Dewey Cox is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: 204
Posts: 5,428
Default

Life is too short to worry about stuff like that.
You found what you were after, when you wanted it, and you bought it.
Sounds like a happy ending to me.
__________________
"I like to quote my own quotes" ~ Dewey Cox
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-04-2020, 05:14 PM
Mr Flyguy Mr Flyguy is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,579
Default

Some people fish for trout with an $1100 or $1200 rod. Are they happier or just flaunting it?
__________________
I fish, therefore I am.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-04-2020, 06:02 PM
marlin4570 marlin4570 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 174
Default

I fish with a $1000 ultra light and the daughter still kicks my *** with a $30 Walmart rod!😩
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-04-2020, 06:46 PM
thorne's Avatar
thorne thorne is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: edmonton
Posts: 1,085
Default

I use to spend stupid money on all the high end stuff...lol...now Ill ugly stick all the way...and no heart breaks when stuff breaks...funny thing is...now nothing breaks!! Like..WTF!!
__________________
NO BAD WEATHER, JUST BAD GEAR!!
Remember 99.8% of fishin gear is ment to catch fishermen....not fish!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-04-2020, 07:13 PM
Talking moose's Avatar
Talking moose Talking moose is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: McBride/Prince George
Posts: 14,559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HuyFishin View Post
This is just the way it is. Dont forget you cant compare a 225dollar rod to a 70 dollar rod and expect it to be good. Hang on to what you have and be happy.

I have a 300 dollar gloomis ultralight and I wish it was a fast action. The action is to slow for me. But It is what it is and i'm used to it now haha.
Explain fast action to me. I used to think I knew but I’m not so sure anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-04-2020, 07:34 PM
58thecat's Avatar
58thecat 58thecat is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: At the end of the Thirsty Beaver Trail, Pinsky lake, Alberta.
Posts: 24,581
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thorne View Post
I use to spend stupid money on all the high end stuff...lol...now Ill ugly stick all the way...and no heart breaks when stuff breaks...funny thing is...now nothing breaks!! Like..WTF!!
How true eh.....
__________________

Be careful when you follow the masses, sometimes the "M" is silent...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-04-2020, 07:35 PM
badger badger is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 452
Default

Newbie...look at spey rods, then custom spey rods.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-04-2020, 07:36 PM
58thecat's Avatar
58thecat 58thecat is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: At the end of the Thirsty Beaver Trail, Pinsky lake, Alberta.
Posts: 24,581
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talking moose View Post
Explain fast action to me. I used to think I knew but I’m not so sure anymore.
It means it doesn't catch fish.....slow action vs fast action depends on the day etc and not the rod

A few time at the lake this year it was one after another so my rod fast fast action...I think that's how it works
__________________

Be careful when you follow the masses, sometimes the "M" is silent...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-04-2020, 07:39 PM
Talking moose's Avatar
Talking moose Talking moose is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: McBride/Prince George
Posts: 14,559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 58thecat View Post
It means it doesn't catch fish.....slow action vs fast action depends on the day etc and not the rod

A few time at the lake this year it was one after another so my rod fast fast action...I think that's how it works
Oh. Thx.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-04-2020, 10:34 PM
SamSteele's Avatar
SamSteele SamSteele is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 2,788
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talking moose View Post
Explain fast action to me. I used to think I knew but I’m not so sure anymore.

Action of a rod is how quickly the tip bends, as well as how deeply.

Extra Fast has a very quick tip but just the tip bends easily.

Fast is a bit slower in the tip but bends a bit deeper into the rod.

Medium, Slow, bend progressively deeper into the blank.

A deeper bend in the rod is helpful to maintain line tension with big head shakes, fishing with braid, using cranks, etc.

On the opposite end is extra fast. Perfect for finesse techniques when fish are subtlety picking up the bait lightly.

Hope that helps.
__________________
Princecraft, Humminbird, MinnKota, Cannon, Mack's Lure, & Railblaza Pro Staff

YouTube: Harder Outdoors
Instagram: @harderoutdoors
FB: HarderOutdoors
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-04-2020, 10:38 PM
Talking moose's Avatar
Talking moose Talking moose is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: McBride/Prince George
Posts: 14,559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamSteele View Post
Action of a rod is how quickly the tip bends, as well as how deeply.

Extra Fast has a very quick tip but just the tip bends easily.

Fast is a bit slower in the tip but bends a bit deeper into the rod.

Medium, Slow, bend progressively deeper into the blank.

A deeper bend in the rod is helpful to maintain line tension with big head shakes, fishing with braid, using cranks, etc.

On the opposite end is extra fast. Perfect for finesse techniques when fish are subtlety picking up the bait lightly.

Hope that helps.
Perfect. Thx SS
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-04-2020, 11:51 PM
RavYak's Avatar
RavYak RavYak is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: West Edmonton
Posts: 5,174
Default

If you are having a breakdown over this I would hate to see what would happen if you bought an expensive rod. Most of my trout rods are 2-4 times that cost...
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-04-2020, 11:52 PM
MooseRiverTrapper MooseRiverTrapper is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,906
Default

Wait till your wife slams it in the truck door.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-05-2020, 09:31 AM
HuyFishin's Avatar
HuyFishin HuyFishin is offline
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Edmonton Alberta
Posts: 1,879
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 58thecat View Post
It means it doesn't catch fish.....slow action vs fast action depends on the day etc and not the rod

A few time at the lake this year it was one after another so my rod fast fast action...I think that's how it works
hahahaha wow not exactly what I was thinking but really good analogy
__________________

YouTube:@huyfishin Fishing Videos!

Respect wildlife
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-05-2020, 10:23 AM
Bully Bee Bully Bee is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RavYak View Post
If you are having a breakdown over this I would hate to see what would happen if you bought an expensive rod. Most of my trout rods are 2-4 times that cost...
It’s not that I spent the money. It’s that I had no other option. The Daiwa is a sick ass rod. It was worth the money, It just wasn’t high on my list. The okuma sst is a proven rod and the shimano sensilite has some good reviews. It’s just no one ever has anything in UL and longer than 5’6.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-05-2020, 06:37 PM
RavYak's Avatar
RavYak RavYak is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: West Edmonton
Posts: 5,174
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully Bee View Post
It’s not that I spent the money. It’s that I had no other option. The Daiwa is a sick ass rod. It was worth the money, It just wasn’t high on my list. The okuma sst is a proven rod and the shimano sensilite has some good reviews. It’s just no one ever has anything in UL and longer than 5’6.
Dont get stuck on the letters written on a rod. Lots of light and even medium light longer rods that are perfect for trout. I've always considered ultralight rods to be for stuff like baby trout, perch, sunfish etc which is why they are usually short length.

I usually use fly rods for trout but my 7 ft 6 in gloomis light action glx rod makes a world class casting option for trout.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-06-2020, 06:34 AM
PerchBuster PerchBuster is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 562
Default

First world problems! It’s only money and you can’t take the rod or the money with you in the end. So I say go get your $225 worth out of that sucker X 100 and go stick it to those Trout of yours dude! The more you catch with it the more satisfied you should become with the investment even though not your ideal choice. Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-06-2020, 06:01 PM
Bully Bee Bully Bee is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PerchBuster View Post
First world problems! It’s only money and you can’t take the rod or the money with you in the end. So I say go get your $225 worth out of that sucker X 100 and go stick it to those Trout of yours dude! The more you catch with it the more satisfied you should become with the investment even though not your ideal choice. Good luck

That is exactly what I am gonna do! Come Christmas, I will get a nice reel for it too, something like a Stradic or the matching Kage reel.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 08-06-2020, 06:14 PM
SamSteele's Avatar
SamSteele SamSteele is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 2,788
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully Bee View Post
That is exactly what I am gonna do! Come Christmas, I will get a nice reel for it too, something like a Stradic or the matching Kage reel.

1000 series Vanforth would be sweet. I have a 1000 series Stradic Ci4+ on my 7.5 foot G Loomis E6X Light and it’s a fantastic combo. Actually landed a 28” brown with that rig.
__________________
Princecraft, Humminbird, MinnKota, Cannon, Mack's Lure, & Railblaza Pro Staff

YouTube: Harder Outdoors
Instagram: @harderoutdoors
FB: HarderOutdoors
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.