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H380 · #31 03-24-2015, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

Labeled dog ???

coyote

Torkdiesel · #32 03-24-2015, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by H380

coyote

Sorry H380 I should have been more clear. Why do you call it a "labeled" dog
^^^

H380 · #33 03-24-2015, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

Sorry H380 I should have been more clear. Why do you call it a "labeled" dog
^^^

It has one of the little asterisks behind the grade , indicating it is a hi quailty fur . These hides also are accompanied by a small "label " that is to be sewn inside the garment indicating this .

nube · #34 03-24-2015, 08:00 AM

I got a labelled Fisher. First Fisher for me that I have caught so I was pretty happy

shakeyleg02 · #35 03-24-2015, 12:18 PM

I got a labelled 3 xl skrat ..pretty happy bout that

HunterDave · #36 03-24-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shakeyleg02

I got a labelled 3 xl skrat ..pretty happy bout that

So you got your account up and running.....good stuff!

MB1 · #37 03-24-2015, 01:31 PM

Another call into Mary at NAFA this morning and all is well, thanks again Dave.

I have one *I XL red fox (9th lot), one SDA XL MED-PL fox, two XL II MED SEM,
one XL I-II DK FTY, and one XL I-II MED FTY.

Really pleased about the "labeled" fox on my first entry to the auction. Also have three rats, one SLT and two I-II's.

Looking forward to the live broadcast...

gman1978 · #38 03-24-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by H380

It has one of the little asterisks behind the grade , indicating it is a hi quailty fur . These hides also are accompanied by a small "label " that is to be sewn inside the garment indicating this .

Just remember that just because you have a lableled fur that it will sell higher that a fur that is not labelled. Look at the coytoes from the last sale, its not always the case. But I am guessing most of the time labelled skins will sell higher that skins that are not.

Thunder Elk Hunter · #39 03-24-2015, 02:04 PM

Here are our 5 fisher grades
SML *I PL 3 SN,
SML *I LBR 3 SN,
MED *I LBR 3
LGE *I BR 3
LGE I-II LBR 3
Last one had half it face eaten so I'm happy for the fur quality. Not happy with them all 3 as clarity which is slight off.
Does any one know what sn stand for? Stained? If so would that not go under Clarity and be a number 9 ?
If it is stained what would cause that and is there any thing that I can do to avoid that?
A weeks time will let me know if it is an issue.
Good luck to all on the up coming auction.

TEH

PCP_ECOM · #40 03-24-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Elk Hunter

Here are our 5 fisher grades
SML *I PL 3 SN,
SML *I LBR 3 SN,
MED *I LBR 3
LGE *I BR 3
LGE I-II LBR 3
Last one had half it face eaten so I'm happy for the fur quality. Not happy with them all 3 as clarity which is slight off.
Does any one know what sn stand for? Stained? If so would that not go under Clarity and be a number 9 ?
If it is stained what would cause that and is there any thing that I can do to avoid that?
A weeks time will let me know if it is an issue.
Good luck to all on the up coming auction.

TEH

I believe it is Short NAP,as indicated in another post

MooseRiverTrapper · #41 03-24-2015, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PCP_ECOM

I believe it is Short NAP,as indicated in another post

Which would be preferred short or long?

I got one Small Pale *Sel LN

Thunder Elk Hunter · #42 03-24-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

Which would be preferred short or long?

I got one Small Pale *Sel LN

On my grading paper I cannot fined LN or SN I'm hoping that that sn or ln does not mean as much as the * SEL.

That SEL should be the top lot or very close to it the way I under stand the fisher prices.

TEH

MooseRiverTrapper · #43 03-24-2015, 02:37 PM

Ya me either need a proper explanation of all the definitions on the NAFA website.

H380 · #44 03-24-2015, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gman1978

Just remember that just because you have a lableled fur that it will sell higher that a fur that is not labelled. Look at the coytoes from the last sale, its not always the case. But I am guessing most of the time labelled skins will sell higher that skins that are not.

Fully aware of that .. but they usually do .

HunterDave · #45 03-24-2015, 02:48 PM

While we're discussing abbreviations, could someone explain where the SDA and SDB fit into the pecking order with everything else? I believe that those abbreviations replaced SLT (Slt damaged good = SDA and Slt damaged avg = SDB).

OR, SLT was replaced by SDA and SDB and DG1, DG2 and DG3 replaced SDG.

If someone could post up the grading order that would be great! (IE SSL, SEL, I, etc......)

HunterDave · #46 03-24-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

Ya me either need a proper explanation of all the definitions on the NAFA website.

I've found that NAFA hasn't amended any of their online manuals with any new abbreviations. I'm seeing several abbreviations that don't seem to be identified on the NAFA site.

What does FTY stand for......Filthy?

Thunder Elk Hunter · #47 03-24-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

I've found that NAFA hasn't amended any of their online manuals with any new abbreviations. I'm seeing several abbreviations that don't seem to be identified on the NAFA site.

What does FTY stand for......Filthy?

It says Frosty on my grading paper, what ever that mean I have no idea.

Will post my grading paper if you would like.

I still need to buy you at coffee for that bait you brought out to me last winter.

TEH

Thunder Elk Hunter · #48 03-24-2015, 03:24 PM

Can't get the 2014 one loaded not much difference other than the damage codes.

Go to the NAFA site and go under wild fur, then to resources and then to Nafa grading descriptions.

That should take you to a PDF of NAFA GRADING

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/NAFA-WF-description-EN-2012.pdf[/IMG]

TEH

nube · #49 03-24-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

While we're discussing abbreviations, could someone explain where the SDA and SDB fit into the pecking order with everything else? I believe that those abbreviations replaced SLT (Slt damaged good = SDA and Slt damaged avg = SDB).

OR, SLT was replaced by SDA and SDB and DG1, DG2 and DG3 replaced SDG.

If someone could post up the grading order that would be great! (IE SSL, SEL, I, etc......)

Dave I got one with SDA and 2 with SDB
2 were 1-4 ave and one was 1-4 Good. Not sure if these are considered better than I-II or slightly lower than II??? If you find out please let me know

Thunder Elk Hunter · #50 03-24-2015, 04:07 PM

Nube
I believe I-II is a better grade than a II.
SDA is slight damage and SDB has little more damage than SDA
Then you get into DG1 - DG3 going down in quality.

TEH

MB1 · #51 03-24-2015, 04:57 PM

Try this link for grading descriptions

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/upload...on-EN-2012.pdf

HunterDave · #52 03-24-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MB1

Try this link for grading descriptions

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/upload...on-EN-2012.pdf

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Originally Posted by nube

Dave I got one with SDA and 2 with SDB
2 were 1-4 ave and one was 1-4 Good. Not sure if these are considered better than I-II or slightly lower than II??? If you find out please let me know

Where did the SDA and SDB graded pelts show on your lotting letter list, in between I and I-II graded pelts? If so, they are probably replacing the old VSL/SLT grade.

Under grading in MB1's link:

I'm thinking that SDA and SDB are replacement abbreviations for VSL/SLT.

I'm also thinking that DG1 (Damaged GD), DG2 (Damaged AVG) and DG3 (Damaged PR) are replacement abbreviations for SDG. I have at least one coyote graded with one of those 3 abbreviations, right above the one coyote that I had grade DGD. These all had to be my shot dogs.

I WILL figure/find this out.....enquiringly minds need to know.

nube · #53 03-24-2015, 07:43 PM

Is not SLT better than II? I thought is went All I* then I-II then SLT then II

They do not follow any order either. Here is a portion of my lots with them. They are in the mid list of my lotting. Here is a few before and after. To me it looks like they are SLT and are better grades than the II

158131
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
1
158144
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
1
158153
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
2
158157
XL-LGE II DK-DBR 1-4 PR,GOOD,
1
158183
XL-LGE SDA DK-DBR 1-4 GOOD,
1
158200
XL-LGE SDB DK-DBR 1-4 AVG,
1
158203
XL-LGE SDB DK-DBR 1-4 AVG,
1
158215
XL-LGE I-II MED 3-4 GD
1
158226
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 GD
1
158228
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 GD
2
158236
XL-LGE I-II MED 3-4 AVG,
1
158248
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 AVG,
1
158257
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 AVG,
1
158

HunterDave · #54 03-24-2015, 07:50 PM

I don't know, Nube, I'm going to email NAFA with a request for an explanation. That's the only way that I'm going to know for sure anyway.

PCP_ECOM · #55 03-24-2015, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nube

Is not SLT better than II? I thought is went All I* then I-II then SLT then II

They do not follow any order either. Here is a portion of my lots with them. They are in the mid list of my lotting. Here is a few before and after. To me it looks like they are SLT and are better grades than the II

158131
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
1
158144
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
1
158153
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
2
158157
XL-LGE II DK-DBR 1-4 PR,GOOD,
1
158183
XL-LGE SDA DK-DBR 1-4 GOOD,
1
158200
XL-LGE SDB DK-DBR 1-4 AVG,
1
158203
XL-LGE SDB DK-DBR 1-4 AVG,
1
158215
XL-LGE I-II MED 3-4 GD
1
158226
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 GD
1
158228
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 GD
2
158236
XL-LGE I-II MED 3-4 AVG,
1
158248
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 AVG,
1
158257
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 AVG,
1
158

Was my understanding that SLT was I GRADE with slight imperfection's,so yes are better than I-II AND II

nube · #56 03-24-2015, 09:03 PM

Pretty finicky if you ask me if they have a Slight damaged A and a slight Damaged B list

Here is a post asking the same thing on Trapperman
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbt...tting_?#UNREAD

HunterDave · #57 03-24-2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nube

Pretty finicky if you ask me if they have a Slight damaged A and a slight Damaged B list

Slight Damaged GD & Slight Damaged AVG.

That's why I'm thinking that they replaced VSL & SLT.

coyoteskinner · #58 03-24-2015, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nube

Is not SLT better than II? I thought is went All I* then I-II then SLT then II

They do not follow any order either. Here is a portion of my lots with them. They are in the mid list of my lotting. Here is a few before and after. To me it looks like they are SLT and are better grades than the II

158131
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
1
158144
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
1
158153
XL-LGE II DBR-MED 1-4 PR,PR
2
158157
XL-LGE II DK-DBR 1-4 PR,GOOD,
1
158183
XL-LGE SDA DK-DBR 1-4 GOOD,
1
158200
XL-LGE SDB DK-DBR 1-4 AVG,
1
158203
XL-LGE SDB DK-DBR 1-4 AVG,
1
158215
XL-LGE I-II MED 3-4 GD
1
158226
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 GD
1
158228
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 GD
2
158236
XL-LGE I-II MED 3-4 AVG,
1
158248
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 AVG,
1
158257
XL-LGE I-II DBR 3-4 AVG,
1
158

Nube, coyotes as we all know are graded by color, then quality. The SDA and SDB are slight damages, not better than ll, it is between ll and DMG. You can see the color with the SDA and SDB are 1-4, the next lot with ll grade have very dark belly, hence the 3-4.