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09-24-2023, 03:00 PM
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Canadian parliament honours Nazi with standing ovation
The ultimate facepalm
OTTAWA — Several Jewish advocacy organizations condemned members of Parliament on Sunday for giving a standing ovation to a man who fought for a Nazi unit during the Second World War.
During Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's visit to Ottawa on Friday, MPs honoured 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka in the House of Commons.
Hunka was invited by Speaker Anthony Rota, who introduced him as a war hero who fought for the First Ukrainian Division.
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"I am very proud to say that he is from North Bay and from my riding of Ni****ing—Timiskaming," the Ontario MP said as an introduction.
"He is a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero, and we thank him for all his service."
MPs cheered and Zelenskyy raised his fist in acknowledgement as Hunka saluted from the gallery during two separate standing ovations.
The First Ukrainian Division was also known as the Waffen-SS Galicia Division or the SS 14th Waffen Division, a voluntary unit that was under the command of the Nazis.
The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies issued a statement Sunday saying the division "was responsible for the mass murder of innocent civilians with a level of brutality and malice that is unimaginable."
"An apology is owed to every Holocaust survivor and veteran of the Second World War who fought the Nazis, and an explanation must be provided as to how this individual entered the hallowed halls of Canadian Parliament and received recognition from the Speaker of the House and a standing ovation," the statement said.
B'nai Brith Canada CEO Michael Mostyn said it is beyond outrageous that Parliament honoured a former member of a Nazi unit, saying Ukrainian "ultra-nationalist ideologues" who volunteered for the Galicia Division "dreamed of an ethnically homogenous Ukrainian state and endorsed the idea of ethnic cleansing."
"We understand an apology is forthcoming. We expect a meaningful apology. Parliament owes an apology to all Canadians for this outrage, and a detailed explanation as to how this could possibly have taken place at the centre of Canadian democracy," Mostyn said.
The Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs, which represents Jewish federations across the country, said it is deeply troubled by the incident.
"Canada's Jewish community stands firmly with Ukraine in its war against Russian aggression. But we can't stay silent when crimes committed by Ukrainians during the Holocaust are whitewashed," the group said in a statement published Sunday on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Members of Parliament from all parties rose to applaud Hunka. A spokesperson for the Conservative party said the party was not aware of his history at the time.
"We find the reports of this individual’s history very troubling," said Sebastian Skamski, adding that the Liberals would have to explain why he was invited.
A spokesperson for the Prime Minister's Office directed The Canadian Press to the office of the Speaker for comment.
Rota's office did not immediately respond to questions.
Monuments to honour the First Ukrainian Division have caused controversy in recent years.
In 2021, a statue of Ukrainian military leader Roman Shukhevych and a monument to the fighters of the Waffen-SS Galicia Division in Edmonton were vandalized by someone who spray painted them with the words "Actual Nazi."
The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center said at the time that it had been advocating for their removal for decades.
In 2020, a monument to the Waffen-SS Galicia Division in Oakville, Ont., was vandalized in a similar way.
The decision to admit Ukrainian immigrants who had served in the SS Waffen Division in the post-war period was contentious, with Jewish groups arguing they should be barred from the country.
The International Military Tribunal in Nuremburg declared the SS to be a criminal organization, including the SS Waffen in that declaration.
The Waffen-SS Galicia Division surrendered to the British army in 1945, and just over 8,000 men were moved to the United Kingdom in 1947.
In 1950, the federal cabinet decided to allow Ukrainians living in the U.K. to come to Canada "notwithstanding their service in the German army provided they are otherwise admissible. These Ukrainians should be subject to special security screening, but should not be rejected on the grounds of their service in the German army."
In 1985, then-prime minister Brian Mulroney called for a royal commission to examine whether Canada had become a haven for war criminals.
The Deschênes Commission found there were about 600 former members of the Waffen-SS Galicia Division living in Canada at the time. But Justice Jules Deschênes said membership in the division did not itself constitute a war crime.
This report by The Canadian Press was first published Sept. 24, 2023.
Sarah Ritchie, The Canadian Press
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09-24-2023, 03:08 PM
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Absolutely disgusting.
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09-24-2023, 03:37 PM
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Absolutely disgusting.
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And I had to read the Russian propaganda news to see this.
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09-24-2023, 04:36 PM
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Yup, what an embarrassment!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ant...logy-1.6977117
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/jewish...azis-1.6575593
Liberals whitewashing history.
Are they going to honor Kristia Freeland's NAZI grandfather next?
Some perspective: Trudeau and Liberals freak out at the Truckers Freedom Convoy when maybe a swastika was allegedly sighted, possibly a plant. Yet they find a rare surviving actual NAZI fighter (98 years old), bring him into the House of Commons and give him a standing ovation. Wow!
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09-24-2023, 04:40 PM
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I just can’t believe that every single day, there comes a new What The Heck story, what’s wrong with our world…I bet that list would be very long these days!
If only the madness would end…
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09-24-2023, 05:07 PM
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I think this is what you get and will continue to get with more and more younger and un educated politicians.
Most are unaware and uninterested in history or anything else unless it benefits them on election day.
They happily go along with the crowd and are generally too lazy to look into any issues unless they have and advisor that is sharp enough to see a problem ahead of time.
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09-26-2023, 10:36 AM
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I just can’t believe that every single day, there comes a new What The Heck story, what’s wrong with our world…I bet that list would be very long these days!
If only the madness would end…
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The Muslim Assc. of Canada just denounced the turd as they were labeled hateful for peacefully protesting as parents concerned about what their children were being taught (indoctrinated) in the classroom.
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09-24-2023, 03:10 PM
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Its stupid to have any other countries war vets on statues here . Also i'd be quite happy if they stopped sending our money to the Ukraine , fight your own war.
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09-24-2023, 05:22 PM
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Its stupid to have any other countries war vets on statues here . Also i'd be quite happy if they stopped sending our money to the Ukraine , fight your own war.
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X1000 you know that most of the money isn't going anywhere towards the war. I'm beyond sick of funding the most corrupt government/country in the world.
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09-24-2023, 05:24 PM
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X1000 you know that most of the money isn't going anywhere towards the war. I'm beyond sick of funding the most corrupt government/country in the world.
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09-24-2023, 05:48 PM
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There's a bust of Roman Shukhevych in Edmonton.
Bandera and Shukhevych's "Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA)" was only capable of killing innocent Poles, Jews, Belarusians, and even Ukrainians from more eastern regions who were deemed politically unreliable.
That's Ukrainian nationalism in a nutshell -- totally reactive, vengeful, and incapable of anything remotely positive or constructive. During the war the larger threats were seen to be the Poles and Jews -- the war sorted those issues out and their animus then turned against the Russians.
If your identity hinges on being cannon fodder for the depleted and desperate German Army during World War II, your country is fake, and because it couldn't play nice with its much larger and more powerful neighbour, it will be going into the dustbin of history.
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09-25-2023, 01:24 PM
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Its stupid to have any other countries war vets on statues here . Also i'd be quite happy if they stopped sending our money to the Ukraine , fight your own war.
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1000 x 1000. We have sent about a billion too much already.......
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09-25-2023, 01:30 PM
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I thinks it over 9 billion right now.
QUOTE=prinny53;4663204]1000 x 1000. We have sent about a billion too much already.......[/QUOTE]
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09-25-2023, 01:59 PM
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It’s all immaterial at this point because there is a distinct possibility that SNC Lavalin will procure lucrative contracts the will keep Quebecers swimming in great jobs. #MadeInCanadaSolutionTrudeauStyle
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09-25-2023, 02:11 PM
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I thinks it over 9 billion right now.
QUOTE=prinny53;4663204]1000 x 1000. We have sent about a billion too much already.......
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9.5 billion to be almost exact. Meanwhile people are starving in canada. Wow.
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09-25-2023, 02:45 PM
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9.5 billion to be almost exact. Meanwhile people are starving in canada. Wow.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, we have given 9.5 billion too much already.
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09-25-2023, 02:12 PM
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09-26-2023, 11:10 AM
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Before I spent much time watching QP, I naively assumed the speaker of the house must be impartial. Would make sense.
Well, to me, he's about as soft on Liberals as Liberals are soft on crime. As it turns out. His leanings were never more clear to me than in Dec. 2022 when he demanded an apology from Manitoba's own Raquel Dancho for saying (Liberal) MP Vance Badawey was lying about the Conservatives standing in the way of the debate process for C-21. You could just smell that he was taking that personally, sort of an unprecedented move to dig your heels in and demand an apology from an MP. She was booted because Rota got his sh*t in a knot over his party being called-out for their BS, and the risk of the optics not being favorable for that tumor of a Prime Minister.
Anthony Rota can marinate in this mess as far as I'm concerned.
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09-26-2023, 11:51 AM
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Before I spent much time watching QP, I naively assumed the speaker of the house must be impartial. Would make sense.
Well, to me, he's about as soft on Liberals as Liberals are soft on crime. As it turns out. His leanings were never more clear to me than in Dec. 2022 when he demanded an apology from Manitoba's own Raquel Dancho for saying (Liberal) MP Vance Badawey was lying about the Conservatives standing in the way of the debate process for C-21. You could just smell that he was taking that personally, sort of an unprecedented move to dig your heels in and demand an apology from an MP. She was booted because Rota got his sh*t in a knot over his party being called-out for their BS, and the risk of the optics not being favorable for that tumor of a Prime Minister.
Anthony Rota can marinate in this mess as far as I'm concerned.
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Actually Parliamentary procedure forbids the use of certain language by ANY person within the House and calling someone a liar , even if verifiable and true, is not permitted. The Speaker must ask the person to withdraw their comment immediately or face expulsion. That's the rules, like it or not.
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"Fight your own war"!!!!!! Believe it or not, this is also our war and all civilized nations. Remember your history! The Americans tried to avoid WW1 and WW2 as it was "Europes War and let them fight it". They got dragged in anyway and millions more died than needed to. If they had been involved earlier, like Canada did, then the war would have ended earlier and millions more would have survived.
This is the cheapest war in history to fight as no Canadian, or its allies, blood is being spilled ...... just some coloured paper (money). If we do not support Ukraine, Russia will move on and next thing you know, a NATO ally will be attacked and we will all have to fight anyway. Better to do it now when it costs a few bucks instead of your sons, brothers, cousins etc.
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Originally Posted by Moe
"Fight your own war"!!!!!! Believe it or not, this is also our war and all civilized nations. Remember your history! The Americans tried to avoid WW1 and WW2 as it was "Europes War and let them fight it". They got dragged in anyway and millions more died than needed to. If they had been involved earlier, like Canada did, then the war would have ended earlier and millions more would have survived.
This is the cheapest war in history to fight as no Canadian, or its allies, blood is being spilled ...... just some coloured paper (money). If we do not support Ukraine, Russia will move on and next thing you know, a NATO ally will be attacked and we will all have to fight anyway. Better to do it now when it costs a few bucks instead of your sons, brothers, cousins etc.
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huh?
I am going to be so ****ed if I get conscripted into a nuclear war because a bunch of boomers had to have a ****ing match of who can pretend to be more socially compassionate based on how many Ukrainian flags they can stick to their car and fit in their social media bio's.
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Originally Posted by Moe
"Fight your own war"!!!!!! Believe it or not, this is also our war and all civilized nations. Remember your history! The Americans tried to avoid WW1 and WW2 as it was "Europes War and let them fight it". They got dragged in anyway and millions more died than needed to. If they had been involved earlier, like Canada did, then the war would have ended earlier and millions more would have survived.
This is the cheapest war in history to fight as no Canadian, or its allies, blood is being spilled ...... just some coloured paper (money). If we do not support Ukraine, Russia will move on and next thing you know, a NATO ally will be attacked and we will all have to fight anyway. Better to do it now when it costs a few bucks instead of your sons, brothers, cousins etc.
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Shh. you will get band for bringing logic into this discussion. Most think if you pay the bully with your lunch money today. Tomorrow he will leave them alone.
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Originally Posted by Moe
"Fight your own war"!!!!!! Believe it or not, this is also our war and all civilized nations. Remember your history! The Americans tried to avoid WW1 and WW2 as it was "Europes War and let them fight it". They got dragged in anyway and millions more died than needed to. If they had been involved earlier, like Canada did, then the war would have ended earlier and millions more would have survived.
This is the cheapest war in history to fight as no Canadian, or its allies, blood is being spilled ...... just some coloured paper (money). If we do not support Ukraine, Russia will move on and next thing you know, a NATO ally will be attacked and we will all have to fight anyway. Better to do it now when it costs a few bucks instead of your sons, brothers, cousins etc.
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The big question is where those bucks are going, how many million are being stolen by greedy opportunists, and whose pockets are getting lined?
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I did some looking into this thing. What a mess. This unit, and others in Ukraine, joined the Nazi's to fight the Soviets. The old adage "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Ukrainians hated the Soviets after millions of them died in the Stalin forced famine called the Holodomor.
I think the young Hunka joined to kill Soviets and then everything went sideways and other perceived enemies were also killed. More Poles than Jews from what I see. Be interesting to know what Hunka actually did in the war.
Anyway hate is hate and grows. Nazi scumbags sure caused a lot of grief in the World. The Soviets were no better and for many, many years of Russia and then Soviet leadership, the Jews always suffered (pogroms). That's why so many Jews in Israel come from the old USSR
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Seems the repercussions from the Yaroslav Hunka affair is far reaching. Looks like the University of Alberta is returning a donation it received from the Hunka family to its endowment fund.
http://cbc.ca/news/politics/yaroslav...osed-1.6980882
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Thanks for posting
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Putin is a monster and needs to be put down.
Our Turd is just a idiot and needs to stand down.
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Putin is a monster and needs to be put down.
Our Turd is just a idiot and needs to stand down.
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Turd is on his way to become a monster. Actually, he is a little monster. If he gets the powers that Putin has- he will outdo him for sure!
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Turd is on his way to become a monster. Actually, he is a little monster. If he gets the powers that Putin has- he will outdo him for sure!
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At least Putin doesn't want to the cut the genitals off confused children...
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