Old rifle ID

[Dubious]

I recently had a friend come over with a few old rifles the one is an easy id as a Winchester model 1894 chambered in 38-55. The other I'm not sure about at all other than the old part. The set had a bayonet that seems to be unrelated to the rifle as it doesn't mount on it. Does anyone know the value of these rifles or the id of the second rifle. There of great value to the owner as they are family heirlooms and he is looking for more information.

Mystery rifle pictures are as follows:

[Dubious]

modle 1894:

[Hat in the Cat]

Mauser Model 1871

Original was a single shot and later had an 8 round magazine.

Couple different variants for ammo but 11mm Mauser is quite common.

[Salavee]

Originally Posted by Hat in the Cat

Mauser Model 1871

Original was a single shot and later had an 8 round magazine.

Couple different variants for ammo but 11mm Mauser is quite common.

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[gitrdun]

In regards to the first one: It sure looks like a Mosin-Nagant bolt (Russian). But there is some stamping "Waffen" I think that leads to a German connection. Although these 2 countries did not co-operate much in firearm construction or refurbishing, the Germans did capture many of these firearms during WWI and repurpose then for their own use. It would be interesting to see the variety of proof marks closely to attempt historical lineage.

The Winchester 1894, I like it very much. Awesome caliber. That gun will likely fetch a better value than the other one.

[Dubious]

I can get more pictures of the proof marks would just need to know what ones and where.

I did a serial number look up on the Winchester and its saying this rifle was manufactured in 1895 thats pretty neat. next stop for these rifles is to the smith to get the once over and then back to the owner.

[Hat in the Cat]

OESTER.WAFFB.GES is short for Oesterreichische Waffenfabrik Gesellschaft

This would mean the rifle was produced by Steyr

If there are any markings on the buttplate take a picture as this will (usually) designate which unit it was issued to.

Downsize to this rifle is the ammo which is about as rare as a permission and location to hunt wild hog in Alberta.

I know a place in Idaho called Buffalo Arms makes some for about $85/box of 20 can't remember if they ship though. Others may have info on that. Marketed as 43 Mauser (.43 Cal 11.15x60R)

[regl]

https://goo.gl/images/FkgNQq 1871 mauser

[Dubious]

7. A.l.
16.24.

[Hat in the Cat]

Originally Posted by Dubious

7. A.l.
16.24.

7th Imperial-Royal Landwehr Infantry Regiment (7th Austrian Landwehr), 16th Company, Rifle number 24

Landwehr translating closely to militia however the Imperial-Royal Landwehr were the defence for the Austrian homeland and not a rag tag group of farmers that shot for an afternoon.

[thumper]

What an amazing bunch of knowledgable and helpful people we have on this forum! Outstanding detective work!