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02-01-2018, 08:33 AM
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Farm plates?
Same website notes the benefit is 9 cents per liter for qualified uses. It is also exempt from the carbon tax so there is another 6.73 cents a liter benefit.
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02-01-2018, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FCLightning
I suspect that the savings is more than the $0.13/litre tax. Consider that marked fuel is a direct farm expense (reducing income tax payable) and clear gas is not on most farm books.
But the rules of the gov't allow it, so why would a farmer not use it?
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Correct i would be all over useing it any kind of return is better than none
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02-01-2018, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Junglefisher
Farm turnover has to be above $10k PA.
When I got my farm plates a few years back, they specified it has to be a truck.
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I was told this as well I am trying to get plates now
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02-01-2018, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FCLightning
I suspect that the savings is more than the $0.13/litre tax. Consider that marked fuel is a direct farm expense (reducing income tax payable) and clear gas is not on most farm books.
But the rules of the gov't allow it, so why would a farmer not use it?
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No.
To claim the fuel against the farm income, the fuel must be used on or for the farm.
But we can used dyed fuel for non-farm related travel.
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02-01-2018, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cdmc
Small benefit to feeding the world eh bud......get over it.
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I'm not against farmers getting a deal on fuel. He asked a question and I answered it. What did you want me to say, because they like the color of purple?
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02-01-2018, 09:32 PM
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I never really paid to much attention to our cost of fuel. Imo it's all relative. You need it you buy it. I believe we get the gst back and possibly $0.05 per liter rebate. This was for gas. I could be wrong in my accounting. A couple years diesel had better rebates ( can't remember what it was called affc?) .
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02-01-2018, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by play.soccer
Farmers can write off fuel....
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So can any other business. Drilling rigs, frac spreads, construction equipment, or any other off-road equipment, welding rigs, or home heating can also use marked fuel.
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02-02-2018, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NCC
So can any other business. Drilling rigs, frac spreads, construction equipment, or any other off-road equipment, welding rigs, or home heating can also use marked fuel.
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Yes they can, StMarys River Irrigation District for one.
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02-02-2018, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NCC
So can any other business. Drilling rigs, frac spreads, construction equipment, or any other off-road equipment, welding rigs, or home heating can also use marked fuel.
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Tell me something I don't know.....
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02-02-2018, 07:18 AM
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Tell me something I don't know.....
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All around a pig's ass is pork. Maybe knew that already?👍
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02-02-2018, 07:23 AM
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All around a pig's ass is pork. Maybe knew that already?👍
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LOL!
And with a touch of smartass too 👍
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02-02-2018, 12:41 PM
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Here's another FYI about marked farm fuel;
A rancher customer of mine bought a new 2017 duramax 1 ton deck truck this spring. At 20,000 km the thing went into limp mode and had to be towed into the dealership. Turns out the truck needed new lift pump, injector pump and all new injectors, about a $12000 touch. The dealership then rejects the warranty claims because the rancher had been burning marked farm fuel claiming the dye in the fuel is what caused the problem. Turns out the workaround with the marked fuel is a special fuel treatment that you're supposed to use everytime you fuel up and keep a written record of. Problem is no one bothered to tell him of this small fact when he took delivery of the truck.
He is somewhat torqued at GM and dealership at the moment. He'll get something done about it, he's kinda of a wealthy influential bugger and he couldn't care less how much it gonna cost him to get this rectified.
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02-02-2018, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Taco
Here's another FYI about marked farm fuel;
A rancher customer of mine bought a new 2017 duramax 1 ton deck truck this spring. At 20,000 km the thing went into limp mode and had to be towed into the dealership. Turns out the truck needed new lift pump, injector pump and all new injectors, about a $12000 touch. The dealership then rejects the warranty claims because the rancher had been burning marked farm fuel claiming the dye in the fuel is what caused the problem. Turns out the workaround with the marked fuel is a special fuel treatment that you're supposed to use everytime you fuel up and keep a written record of. Problem is no one bothered to tell him of this small fact when he took delivery of the truck.
He is somewhat torqued at GM and dealership at the moment. He'll get something done about it, he's kinda of a wealthy influential bugger and he couldn't care less how much it gonna cost him to get this rectified.
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I have heard of this in the past but thought it was BS. I always figured I would sit out front with a sign in my duramax saying something. To the effect about ask me why my truck won’t start....I imagine enough farmers seeing that would change there tune real quick. The die in marked fuel does nothing to engine components. Period.
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02-02-2018, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taco
Here's another FYI about marked farm fuel;
A rancher customer of mine bought a new 2017 duramax 1 ton deck truck this spring. At 20,000 km the thing went into limp mode and had to be towed into the dealership. Turns out the truck needed new lift pump, injector pump and all new injectors, about a $12000 touch. The dealership then rejects the warranty claims because the rancher had been burning marked farm fuel claiming the dye in the fuel is what caused the problem. Turns out the workaround with the marked fuel is a special fuel treatment that you're supposed to use everytime you fuel up and keep a written record of. Problem is no one bothered to tell him of this small fact when he took delivery of the truck.
He is somewhat torqued at GM and dealership at the moment. He'll get something done about it, he's kinda of a wealthy influential bugger and he couldn't care less how much it gonna cost him to get this rectified.
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Lies. Shady dealership
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02-02-2018, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by trophybook
Lies. Shady dealership
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Shady dealership GROUP, They only have 27 stores across Western Canada and Nova Scotia
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02-02-2018, 03:56 PM
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I'm not a fan of the purple dye. It can gum up injectors.
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02-02-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bisch
Same website notes the benefit is 9 cents per liter for qualified uses. It is also exempt from the carbon tax so there is another 6.73 cents a liter benefit.
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Dear old Nutley made road tax 13 cents a litre from 9 cents.
Turdeaus cut is 13 cents a litre if my memory serves me right.
Yes there is the 7 cents a litre Carbon Tax.
It adds up quickly.
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02-02-2018, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Taco
Shady dealership GROUP, They only have 27 stores across Western Canada and Nova Scotia
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Go auto? Lol screw those guys.
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02-02-2018, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by amosfella
I'm not a fan of the purple dye. It can gum up injectors.
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Hasn't been purple for a long time. Like over 30 years.
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02-02-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 4thredneck
Hasn't been purple for a long time. Like over 30 years.
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It is just not all purple, depends who you get it from, but some marked fuel is absolutely still purple. I have also seen green. But this week, still purple.
And it does not gum injectors.
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02-02-2018, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by coreya3212
It is just not all purple, depends who you get it from, but some marked fuel is absolutely still purple. I have also seen green. But this week, still purple.
And it does not gum injectors.
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Dyed diesel that I know if is yellow. Gas is still purple.
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02-02-2018, 08:28 PM
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Don't know about it humming up the injectors. Sounds like a stretch to me. If million dollar cats run on it I'm sure it'll work just fine in my Cummins Fargo. It has in the past anyway with any diesel or gas engine I've had.
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02-02-2018, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Norwest Alta
Dyed diesel that I know if is yellow. Gas is still purple.
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Read my previous post. I have dyed diesel that is purple from a week ago. It depends where you get it.
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02-02-2018, 11:59 PM
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I have close to 700k on 2 duramaxs with no fuel issues that aware of. Use decent fuel treatment every 3rd tank or so. Have put 300 k on 2 350tbi's as well.
My "purple" is reddish and has been forever, gas too.
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Read my previous post. I have dyed diesel that is purple from a week ago. It depends where you get it.
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Read my post did I say you were wrong. Didn't think so.
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