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06-16-2019, 08:51 AM
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No guns allowed
My 9 year old son drew this picture in school for me for Father’s Day. He was told by his teacher that he was not allowed to add a gun to the picture. It’s quite a world we live in.
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06-16-2019, 08:57 AM
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The insanity is almost everywhere. Even small town Alberta. Sad.
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06-16-2019, 09:00 AM
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Get him to do another drawing at home. Art is life.
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06-16-2019, 09:00 AM
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Wonder what ever happened to freedom of speech or freedom of expression. Society is really getting stupid. What will it be like in another 50years
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06-16-2019, 09:01 AM
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Happy Father's Day! It really is the thought that counts now...
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06-16-2019, 09:01 AM
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May be a good time to arrange an interview with the teacher. Seems they get away with that kind of Crap all too often these days.
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06-16-2019, 09:17 AM
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Jeezes deleted Christ !
That's a sad picture ..... I mean good pic but sad
Go rip into that teacher
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06-16-2019, 09:22 AM
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Sounds to me like she’s interfering with his freedom of expression and that’s a huge issue. It’s vastly more important than forcing someone to use a made up gender pronoun when referring to a mentally ill person who wants to be called Xenu. I’d schedule a visit with the teacher and principal together because the teacher and/or school are clearly being prejudicial and they need to be corrected for their misguided action. They’re telling your kid to be ashamed of you and your hobby/lifestyle, that’s a full-stop NOPE.
“And here for Fathers Day you can draw a picture for your Dad but nope you can’t depict him accurately because that’s evil and violent and only bad people have firearms. We hope your Dad has a lovely Fathers Day while he has this new physical keepsake about how we’re brainwashing you into thinking he does something to be ashamed of. That ought to make his day now and into the future as he sees the drawing again and again.”
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06-16-2019, 09:29 AM
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individual or institutional?
Nice art work! You guys should go for a shoot today so your son can inform his teacher at the first opportunity. Show and Tell with a well marked up target.
Was this an individual decision by the teacher? Or an Institutional directive by your local school board? Either way, it can be a teaching moment for your son to learn about the perils of listening to enlightened social engineers within our educational system and society in general.
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06-16-2019, 09:29 AM
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It's all in the details. The nose is perfect . Is that a gopher? Lets just say it is......and since it is, he is very happy you don't have a gun. Silver lining in everything.
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06-16-2019, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CaberTosser
Sounds to me like she’s interfering with his freedom of expression and that’s a huge issue. It’s vastly more important than forcing someone to use a made up gender pronoun when referring to a mentally ill person who wants to be called Xenu. I’d schedule a visit with the teacher and principal together because the teacher and/or school are clearly being prejudicial and they need to be corrected for their misguided action. They’re telling your kid to be ashamed of you and your hobby/lifestyle, that’s a full-stop NOPE.
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Not necessarily a "she" but I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts.
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06-16-2019, 09:37 AM
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It's all in the details. The nose is perfect . Is that a gopher? Lets just say it is......and since it is, he is very happy you don't have a gun. Silver lining in everything.
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Laughing, it is a gopher. That debate came up at the table. In his words, that “tail”, Mallory is the gopher hole.
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06-16-2019, 09:43 AM
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Nice art work! You guys should go for a shoot today so your son can inform his teacher at the first opportunity. Show and Tell with a well marked up target.
Was this an individual decision by the teacher? Or an Institutional directive by your local school board? Either way, it can be a teaching moment for your son to learn about the perils of listening to enlightened social engineers within our educational system and society in general.
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He loves to shoot. Even in his pyjamas. :-)
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06-16-2019, 09:46 AM
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Not necessarily a "she" but I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts.
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Yeah, there’s that, but I’ll Note that there’s not a single teacher with an X-chromosome at my son’s elementary school. Well, there is possibly one exception, I truly can’t tell for sure if that person is just a very ugly lady with some mannish characteristics or was born male.
Here’s a picture my son drew at school when he was about 7 or 8, note how he was channeling Wile E Coyote, the Minecraft game (the TNT boxes) and a Rube Goldberg machine. The sheep steps on the switch which releases the anvil, the anvil drops on the plunger box to set off the boxes of TNT. He did point out the school was empty for this
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Originally Posted by CaberTosser
Sounds to me like she’s interfering with his freedom of expression and that’s a huge issue. It’s vastly more important than forcing someone to use a made up gender pronoun when referring to a mentally ill person who wants to be called Xenu. I’d schedule a visit with the teacher and principal together because the teacher and/or school are clearly being prejudicial and they need to be corrected for their misguided action. They’re telling your kid to be ashamed of you and your hobby/lifestyle, that’s a full-stop NOPE.
“And here for Fathers Day you can draw a picture for your Dad but nope you can’t depict him accurately because that’s evil and violent and only bad people have firearms. We hope your Dad has a lovely Fathers Day while he has this new physical keepsake about how we’re brainwashing you into thinking he does something to be ashamed of. That ought to make his day now and into the future as he sees the drawing again and again.”
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Well said. I would be ripping someone a new one and I would make the complaint official and on the record if that was my kid.
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06-16-2019, 10:06 AM
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It's sad when our schools are being used to carry out social engineering. And unfortunately, many of the children that are indoctrinated this way, will pass this nonsense on to their children at home. Only the children that are fortunate enough to grow up with parents that think for themselves, and don't pursue this nonsense at home will grow up thinking for themselves.
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06-16-2019, 10:33 AM
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It's sad when our schools are being used to carry out social engineering. And unfortunately, many of the children that are indoctrinated this way, will pass this nonsense on to their children at home. Only the children that are fortunate enough to grow up with parents that think for themselves, and don't pursue this nonsense at home will grow up thinking for themselves.
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Good reply.
Speaking of which / reminds me. My oldest boy is now growing up really fast at 7.5 years. Ive been starting to think how to make him think for himself - he's not my little "Gumar" anymore.
At the property I was gonna make sure I'm with him on the far side of the 80 acres , get him to turn the quad off , pretend I'm not there and then ask him now what. One thing I thought of to do. See if he pays attention or knows which direction to go etc etc
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06-16-2019, 10:46 AM
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Guns not acceptable, yet if he drew a gay porn scene with rainbows and unicorns in the background it would probably be exhibited in the school lobby.
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06-16-2019, 10:53 AM
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That teacher is WAY out of line.
You should pm me.... I’d like to perhaps correct this behavior.
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06-16-2019, 01:18 PM
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Sadly I think this no guns allowed is a country wide situation. Probably all schools have this rule in place. If some poor child did deaw a picture with a gun in it he would be in for a psychiatric assesment pronto. We have freedom of speech as long as it goes along with wgat ever is politically correct at the time. What awonderful and free country we live in now.
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Yuppers.
I bet boy could draw up another work of art for you the way he wants it to be Chunk,,, that way both of you can Grin with excitement less the education system that dosen't néed to know nothing about your private lively hood...
Good on him for giving it a go,,, that's what really counts
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06-16-2019, 05:13 PM
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I wonder what the teacher would have said if your son asked how is dad supposed to kill the gopher with out a gun.
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06-16-2019, 06:34 PM
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That teacher is WAY out of line.
You should pm me.... I’d like to perhaps correct this behavior.
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I like your style!
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06-16-2019, 06:34 PM
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Hey thats a pretty good pic. I think a gun would make it a bit busy but thats not her business
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06-16-2019, 06:43 PM
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Wonder what ever happened to freedom of speech or freedom of expression. Society is really getting stupid. What will it be like in another 50years
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We wont be like this in 50 years.
There will be a correction.
Either our society crumbles and rebuilds from scratch, or the Chinese invade when we are at our weakest.
But to think we can continue on this path at this rate for 50 years is crazy. It just isn't possible.
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Originally Posted by urban rednek
Was this an individual decision by the teacher? Or an Institutional directive by your local school board? Either way, it can be a teaching moment for your son to learn about the perils of listening to enlightened social engineers within our educational system and society in general.
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Well said here. I also would be talking to the teacher, then following it up the line if necessary.
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About 2 weeks ago my 7 yr old grandson got hauled into the principals office , ridiculed and his parents phoned because my grandson and 2 other grade 2 boys were running around the school yard at recess break, pointing their finger and shouting, bang, bang, bang !
Our Schools are managed by morons,
Is it any wonder ? our country is led by a MORON .
And we the pubic, tolerate this nonsense !
We must also be morons ?
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06-16-2019, 09:11 PM
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When my boy was in kindergarten, he drew a pic of himself out with me, shooting at paper targets. The teacher took his drawing away and called him a liar for saying he was out shooting. She was on the phone with me that afternoon, despite knowing that I am both a hunter and fellow teacher, all upset that my son was telling lies. When I informed her that my son's drawing was legit, that he had been out shooting the previous weekend, she hung up the phone and called the police. The EPS guys were awesome, no complaints from me. But, the bird-brained teacher actually called 911 to report me, believing that it was against the law for my son to fire a rifle. After she called EPS and did not get her way, she then called Children's Services. So, we were again investigated for child endangerment. Had to refer the social worker back to the previous week's investigating officers from EPS. Things got worse when I filled my bear tag. 911 and Children's Services were involved again.
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When my boy was in kindergarten, he drew a pic of himself out with me, shooting at paper targets. The teacher took his drawing away and called him a liar for saying he was out shooting. She was on the phone with me that afternoon, despite knowing that I am both a hunter and fellow teacher, all upset that my son was telling lies. When I informed her that my son's drawing was legit, that he had been out shooting the previous weekend, she hung up the phone and called the police. The EPS guys were awesome, no complaints from me. But, the bird-brained teacher actually called 911 to report me, believing that it was against the law for my son to fire a rifle. After she called EPS and did not get her way, she then called Children's Services. So, we were again investigated for child endangerment. Had to refer the social worker back to the previous week's investigating officers from EPS. Things got worse when I filled my bear tag. 911 and Children's Services were involved again.
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She should have been charged for placing nuisance 911 calls.
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Originally Posted by raised by wolves
When my boy was in kindergarten, he drew a pic of himself out with me, shooting at paper targets. The teacher took his drawing away and called him a liar for saying he was out shooting. She was on the phone with me that afternoon, despite knowing that I am both a hunter and fellow teacher, all upset that my son was telling lies. When I informed her that my son's drawing was legit, that he had been out shooting the previous weekend, she hung up the phone and called the police. The EPS guys were awesome, no complaints from me. But, the bird-brained teacher actually called 911 to report me, believing that it was against the law for my son to fire a rifle. After she called EPS and did not get her way, she then called Children's Services. So, we were again investigated for child endangerment. Had to refer the social worker back to the previous week's investigating officers from EPS. Things got worse when I filled my bear tag. 911 and Children's Services were involved again.
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That person should not be teaching again, period. Calling Children's Services is not a casual thing to do merely because your hypersensitivities have been triggered. There should be a mischief charge or something levelled back their way.
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