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Gun crime rates and killings involving guns in New Zealand reached their highest level in a decade this year despite the country's strict gun control measures lauded by left-wing politicians in the United States.
The figures, obtained from police under the Official Information Act by news outlet RNZ, show that gun crime has increased in the country in 2018 and 2019.
https://www.gunpowdermagazine.com/ne...ime-soars/amp/
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Step 12:
Please help contribute to the lawsuit initiated by Wolverine Sports to fight the OIC and it's contents:
Sixth major lawsuit filed against the government:
https://thegunblog.ca/2020/05/25/hip...buse-of-power/
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Sure enough, in 2020, the Canadian prime minister is imposing a ban by decree. And some gun prohibition fans want him to go even further. The Globe and Mail calls the ban a "weak half-measure" because it doesn't criminalize the possession of handguns. Former Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe spokesman Michael Bociurkiw wants to seal the vast border with the U.S. to curtail gun smuggling and "to make Canadians feel safer."
The obvious lesson to take away from the crackdown in Canada is that the government you live under can turn against you at any time. And bringing yourself to the attention of that government—say, by registering property that some officials want to further restrict or completely prohibit—is just asking for trouble. That lesson should be taken to heart not just in Canada, but any place that those who would inflict restrictions and prohibitions on the rest of us seek power. Which is to say, Canada's gun ban by decree provides a schooling in authoritarianism for everybody.
https://reason.com/2020/05/06/canada...an-government/
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Thanks for posting this link 'Nog. I was waiting for it to be posted on CGN but I did not get back to that thread of John Hipwell's yet. Contribution made.
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More firearms being banned without public notice
Maple Ridge, B.C., gun store co-owner Matt Mendel began reading rumours online in early May, shortly after the prime minister announced a ban on 1,500 firearms and gun parts, that even more were quietly being reclassified as prohibited.
There was no public announcement by federal authorities. Businesses like Mendel's Wanstalls Hunting and Shooting had to find out by searching the guns they sell in the national Firearms Reference Table (FRT), available to them online.
Mendel, 32, and his staff began to check various models and sure enough some were suddenly banned — mostly shotguns.
"If I wasn't a diligent business owner and constantly kept my ear to the ground with this sort of thing, I could have been selling illegal firearms to people, and people could be possessing illegal firearms without even knowing it," said Mendel.
Including the one or two Typhoon F12 guns in his inventory, the store stands to lose $30,000 to $40,000 for a dozen firearm models that have been reclassified as prohibited, and much more over time on accessories and ammunition for these guns.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...nced-1.5589519
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In the middle of this, Justin Trudeau’s move to protect you from gun crime saw the Liberal government send a letter to Canada’s 2.2 million licensed gun owners telling them some of their guns — all rifles — are now illegal.
The cost of that mailout, well into the millions, could have been better spent on funding police, border agents or other initiatives to deal with the illegal guns that are the real problem.
The Liberals said their plan to buy the now illegal guns from licensed owners would cost roughly $600 million. Their plan to fight guns and gangs is to spend $327 million over five years with just $86 million going to the RCMP and Canada Border Services to fight gun smuggling.
Let’s be clear, they will spend nearly double to buy guns from legal gun owners with no history of crime in Canada than they will on fighting the illegal guns on the streets that were used in shootings like the one that shocked Toronto on Tuesday.
Trudeau knows what lies behind the gun crime problem in Canada and the key word is crime. Yet he doesn’t know how to fix that, not without hard work and a view of the justice system that will offend his left-wing sensibilities.
So he will spend hundreds of millions of your money and mine to focus on the easy target, people who obey the law.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...e-wrong-target
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Action Item # 14:
The RCMP are sending our letters to each and every PAL RPAL holder in the country.
This is said to have cost them over 4 million of your tax dollars.
Time to kick that number up some...
On the back of their letter, use a large felt marker and write "I WILL NOT COMPLY".
If you feel the urge to write even more:
"The prime minister’s firearms ban is in direct violation of Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
As a tax paying Canadian citizen I demand my rights and freedoms be respected!"
Address your envelope to:
Office of the Prime Minister
80 Wellington Street
Ottawa, ON K1A 0A2
Do not provide a return address.
Postage is on them.
Easy Peasy to send them your message, on their dime of course...
Cheers,
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Alberta, Saskatchewan taking over the appointment of provincial firearms officers
Alberta and Saskatchewan are moving to assert greater control over gun regulation by taking over the appointment of their provincial firearms officers at a time of heightened tension on the Prairies over gun rights.
They will join Ontario, Quebec, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick in having control over who fills that position.
Alberta and Saskatchewan announced their intentions regarding firearms officers months ago, but the idea has taken on greater urgency since Ottawa announced a ban on what it calls assault weapons in May.
“We believe we can have somebody who, while obviously committed to upholding the law, will do so in a way that focuses enforcement on criminal misuse of firearms rather than regulatory harassment of safe, legal, law-abiding farmers and duck hunters."
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...of-provincial/
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The CSSA reports that not only is it dishonest for the government to maintain that that ban is intended for “weapons that were not designed for hunting or for target shooting,” but that:
[a]n examination of the new regulations showed a clear lack of understanding of the subject matter and that little care was taken in the preparation of these documents. Officials from these departments were unable to provide a working definition of the firearms that were placed on the “banned” list and displayed a shocking ignorance of current laws. They were unable to answer simple question about how the current ban would dovetail with the prohibitions contained in … legislation passed eleven months ago.
Mr. Burlew explains that the Liberal government not only capitalized on the pandemic-related suspension of Parliament to go after law-abiding gun owners, it empowered the police to interpret the scope of the law. The list of banned guns is not fixed at what appears in the May 1 regulation because, “as the RCMP Forensic Lab adds their opinion of Variants,” the banned gun list has grown to include “over 1,000 new prohibited guns not directly listed in the Order in Council. These are opinions of nameless bureaucrats who are expanding the list by hundreds of manufacturer models daily.”
https://www.nraila.org/articles/2020...ult-weapon-ban
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Legal and responsible Canadian gun owners are seeking information amid mass confusion and uncertainty as the Canadian Government rolls out a new regime of Gun Bans that will affect everyone from collectors, sports shooters, to duck and deer hunters. Wild TV and the CCFR have teamed up to create two 1-hour documentary-style episodes explaining why we, as hunters, need to unite with the sport-shooting community and why we need to care about the recent gun ban.
This is a wake-up call for all Canadian hunters. They are attempting to divide the shooting communities and we need to become united otherwise it could be bad news for all of us in the future. This ban uses such vague language regarding exactly what is now outlawed, and it leaves the door open for other necessary hunting tools to be included in the future, meaning bad news for more of us.
There are many gun ban "myths" cycling the internet, so Wild TV and the CCFR have put together this show to clear up any confusion behind the way the ban was rolled out, and to clarify the misinformation floating around. Canadians have been misled regarding the intent of this ban so Wild TV and the CCFR are using our platforms to educate and to break through the smokescreen that was seemingly put up to disguise the outlaw of 1500+ guns. This has been more than just an attack on gun owners; the ban takes away Canadians’ rights and liberty, affects the economy in a massive way, and will cause the loss of livelihoods and affect the ability of many to feed their families.
"Gun Ban Canada" sheds startling, eye-opening information on the ban and the devastating effects it will have on law-abiding Canadian Gun Owners and livelihoods of small business owners that support them.
The first episode will air on Wild TV six times:
June 10, 17 @ 17:30
June 11, 24 @ 19:00
June 14, 21 @ 18:00
The second episode will air:
June 24 @ 17:30
June 25 @ 19:00
June 28 @ 18:00
https://mailchi.mp/wildtv.ca/wild-tv...gun-ban-canada
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Should government use an Order In Council (OIC) to fulfill a campaign promise? Is it an abuse of power by government, misusing the authority of the Governor General (Sovereign representative), under the advice of a Minister? And should the Attorney General intervene, despite the fact the Attorney General is also the Minister of Justice, to ensure the Crown has not been placed in disrepute and to protect the rule of law?
https://www.rangebob.com/Canada/Eliz...shall_OIC.html
Somewhat lengthy, but very worthwhile read.
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I am shocked at the incompetence of our public safety minister. You shouldn't be allowed to blatantly lie in parliament. He has no idea what he is doing and I am shocked that he is in charge of anything, what a useful idiot....
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Alberta Vows to Defend Gun Rights Against Trudeau’s Attacks
Alberta Premier Jason Kenney vowed today to use the Canadian Constitution, provincial regulations and possibly a lawsuit to defend the rights of hunters, farmers and sport shooters against the federal Liberal Party’s attacks.
https://thegunblog.ca/2020/06/03/alb...deaus-attacks/
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I am shocked at the incompetence of our public safety minister. You shouldn't be allowed to blatantly lie in parliament. He has no idea what he is doing and I am shocked that he is in charge of anything, what a useful idiot....
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There was plenty of dishonesty in parliament during the gun registry fiasco as well. Nothing new.
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The question is, given a domestic historical record showing the lack of a causal nexus between gun control and crime reduction, why the federal government is so intent on taking firearms out of the hands of law-abiding Canadians?
https://legalmatterscanada.ca/the-pa...-hit-the-mark/
The more than obvious answer relates to much of what the focus of this present "government" is: Vote Pandering at all costs.
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RCMP Letter – Legitimate Notice or Fishing Expedition?
The RCMP’s problem is upwards of 175,000 now-Prohibited firearms were classified as Non-Restricted on April 30, 2020, the day before their virtue-signalling press conference announcing the ban.
The RCMP has no idea who owns any of these guns and the only way to trigger individual notifications is by revoking a Registration Certificate.
Since registration is not required for Non-Restricted firearms, neither the Trudeau government nor the RCMP know who owns these guns.
So why did the RCMP really send this letter?
http://web-extract.constantcontact.c...P-HW0j4_9WI52w
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Bet your hindquarters they kept the old registration files.Then lied again.
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In the middle of this, Justin Trudeau’s move to protect you from gun crime saw the Liberal government send a letter to Canada’s 2.2 million licensed gun owners telling them some of their guns — all rifles — are now illegal.
The cost of that mailout, well into the millions, could have been better spent on funding police, border agents or other initiatives to deal with the illegal guns that are the real problem.
The Liberals said their plan to buy the now illegal guns from licensed owners would cost roughly $600 million. Their plan to fight guns and gangs is to spend $327 million over five years with just $86 million going to the RCMP and Canada Border Services to fight gun smuggling.
Let’s be clear, they will spend nearly double to buy guns from legal gun owners with no history of crime in Canada than they will on fighting the illegal guns on the streets that were used in shootings like the one that shocked Toronto on Tuesday.
Trudeau knows what lies behind the gun crime problem in Canada and the key word is crime. Yet he doesn’t know how to fix that, not without hard work and a view of the justice system that will offend his left-wing sensibilities.
So he will spend hundreds of millions of your money and mine to focus on the easy target, people who obey the law.
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Fraser Institute has the buyback program costing upwards of $5 Billion. The price for the guns is a small fraction of the cost. The staffing is the real price sink.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blog...ion-boondoggle
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Sask. Bill amendment prevents municipalities from banning guns
REGINA -- The Saskatchewan government has introduced amendments to Bill 194, that it says will further protect the rights of legal gun owners in the province.
The province says amendments to this bill will prevent banning gun ownership at the municipal level.
Recently the federal government had made clear its plan to pass legislation that would allow municipalities the ability to ban guns.
“The Government of Saskatchewan prefers to take the position of encouraging education and safety with a focus on current enforcement efforts, while taking a tough stance on criminals who are breaking the existing laws, rather than further restricting legitimate firearms ownership by law-abiding residents,” Government Relations Minister Lori Carr said.
The amendments were to The Miscellaneous Municipal Statutes Amendment Act, 2019.
https://regina.ctvnews.ca/sask-bill-...guns-1.4986823
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Action Item # 15:
Support the Canadian Taxpayer Association as they enter the Legal Fray:
Taking the gun ban and buyback to court
We all want a safer Canada, but buying back guns from licenced gun owners won’t stop criminals
So we need your help to save taxpayers’ money by taking Ottawa to court.
The Trudeau government’s gun ban won’t make Canadians safer, but it WILL waste hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.
Even worse, the Trudeau government imposed these new regulations without holding a vote in Parliament.
Ottawa is ducking accountability yet again.
Canadians aren’t going to stand for it. In fact, at least one has already launched a court challenge to these new regulations.
Cassandra Parker, who owns a small business in Prince George, B.C., has launched a legal challenge in the Federal Court against the new gun buyback. She needs all the help she can get.
We want to jump into the court fight as interveners to support her.
We’ve done this before: to fight the carbon tax; to fight for the right of the Ontario government to shrink Toronto city council; and for the right of provincial governments to refuse pay raises for employees.
Whenever we’ve shown up in court, the CTF has been there to represent a point of view that no one else will: taxpayers.
We’re lucky to have an outstanding lawyer, James Plotkin, representing us as we seek permission from the court to intervene.
Normally, the legal fees for a case like this are extremely expensive, but James has given us a deep discount. So we need to raise $21,000 by the end of June to make sure we are ready to file documents before court deadlines.
Can you help chip in to cover the cost? You can donate on our secure website by clicking this LINK.
https://www.taxpayer.com/donate/scra...n-and-buy-back
We know that to fight for you, we need to use all the tools we have and that includes going to court to make sure your voice is heard.
Thank you as always for your support!
Aaron, Todd, Shannon and the entire CTF team
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There are a number of OIC challenges going on. The TFC challenge is also supported by the NFA and is listed below
OIC Challenges:
The Group of Ten Judicial Review" - Supported by the Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA) and the Ontario Land Owners Association (OLA)
https://ontariolandowners.ca/wp-cont...ay-25-2020.pdf
https://cssa-cila.org/store/shop/ont...dicial-review/
Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply
We cannot find their filing. If you have a link please send it to us
https://www.gofundme.com/f/class-act...mp-frt-changes
Wolverine Supplies
Legal Team Lead: EDWARD L. BURLEW, LL.B
Date Filed: 28May2020
Court: Federal Court
Applicant: John Hipwell, founder of Wolverine Supplies
https://www.mediafire.com/file/chel6...ATION.pdf/filehttps://www.mediafire.com/file/chel6...ATION.pdf/file
https://www.gofundme.com/f/judicial-...-amp-ed-burlew
Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights
Legal Team Lead: Laura Warner, JSS Barristers
Date Filed: 26May2020
Court: Federal Court
Applicant: CCFR, RODNEYGILTACA, LAURENCE KNOWLES, RYAN STEACY, MACCABEE DEFENSE INC., WOLVERINE SUPPLIES LTD., AND MAGNUM MACHINE LTD
Application Basis:
A)The Judicial Review:
The OIC is a regulation of properties. Therefore it is an infringement of provincial power by Constitution Act of 1867;
The OIC itself is not made within the authority of the criminal code. The GIC's opinion is not based on evidence, good reasoning and fairness and thus the OIC is of no effect.
Delegating to the RCMP to make classification using the FRT is not a delegation permitted by the Criminal Code. The activities of the RCMP lack procedural fairness and natural justice.
B) The Constitution:
The OIC and the activities of RCMP SFSS are not constitutional according to the Bill of Rights and the Charter concerning enjoyment of property as well as liberty and security. They are in contrary to the principle of fundamental justice, that underpins the Bill of Rights.
The OIC is not constitutional concerning with Part 2 of the Constitution Act, 1982, as hunting right falls under Aboriginal and Treaty rights. The OIC is an unreasonable interference of the Treaty rights.
Relief Sought:
- an order to declare the OIC as invalid and a permanent injunction
- an interim trial injunction of the OIC
- an order to prohibit RCMP from prescribing firearms as restricted or prohibited, both on their own or as variants
- return all or part of the OIC prohibited firearms to non-restricted
https://firearmrights.ca/wp-content/...iling-Copy.pdf
https://firearmrights.ca/en/legal-challenge/
National Firearms Association
Legal Team Lead: Solomon Friedman, EDELSON FRIEDMAN BLACK LLP
Date Filed: 21May2020
Court: Federal Court
Applicant: Casandra Parker
Application Basis:
SOR/2020-96 is not made within the the authority of the Governor in Council granted by sections 84 (1) and 117.15 (1) of the Criminal Code concerning prohibiting firearms that are of reasonable use in Canada for hunting or sporting purpose. In addition, it is inconsistent with s. 1(a) of the Canadian Bill of Rights concerning the right to the “enjoyment of property”
Relief Sought:
To declare SOR/2020-96 is of no force and effect because it is beyond the authority of Governor in Council to make such order through the authority through the Criminal Code.
https://efiling.fct-cf.gc.ca/efiling...80gD5AXQ3EKHTu
https://nfa.ca/contribute/
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