Grizzly attack

[Iskra]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...5bLj_oWE8EwMf0

[Jays toyz]

Holy ****. Not cool bear, not cool.

[sns2]

Yikes. Glad he's alive. Glad there are no Grizzlies in our province. Could be dangerous

[CaberTosser]

Well, that dude sure qualifies for being one tough bugger. Good for him to have pulled through it and survived, that would have been a mighty unpleasant way to check out.

[Dean2]

Couple of things, Title is as usual pretty misleading and appears the article was written from the typical CBC perspective. The bear came up on this guy, he did not come up on them. How this can be construed as her protecting her cubs only happens when the Bambi crowd writes the story. People before bears!

He is just really lucky to have gotten out of there in more or less one piece.

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by sns2

Yikes. Glad he's alive. Glad there are no Grizzlies in our province. Could be dangerous

Yep, a real piece of mind knowing that you can go out in Alberta and never have to worry about a grizzly here. I can't believe there are some who actually think that way, that the population is low. Didn't somebody post pics here recently about a grizzly on the prairie, near Raymond, catching a couple of mule deer fawns? Must have been a BC grizzly that got lost. Just like the bears we see regularly up here near GP. Just lost BC grizzly. We need to help them find their way home?

[Iskra]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Couple of things, Title is as usual pretty misleading and appears the article was written from the typical CBC perspective. The bear came up on this guy, he did not come up on them. How this can be construed as her protecting her cubs only happens when the Bambi crowd writes the story. People before bears!

He is just really lucky to have gotten out of there in more or less one piece.

It says there, he came up on them. She was not a "problem" bear. it happened in the wilderness. If she wanted to have a meal, she would have one. We are lucky to have such beautiful country (Happy Birthday Canada) and things like that happen.

[Bigwoodsman]

He survived a grizzly bear attack. He’s lucky and now has a story to tell. Good on him to get keep his cool and get out of their before he became lunch!

BW

[3blade]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Couple of things, Title is as usual pretty misleading and appears the article was written from the typical CBC perspective. The bear came up on this guy, he did not come up on them. How this can be construed as her protecting her cubs only happens when the Bambi crowd writes the story. People before bears!

He is just really lucky to have gotten out of there in more or less one piece.

Yep, the bambified bullsit is strong with that author.

Unfortunately now there are four bears that think chewing on humans is ok. The best thing for the species would have been to eliminate those 4.

[Iskra]

Originally Posted by 3blade

Yep, the bambified bullsit is strong with that author.

Unfortunately now there are four bears that think chewing on humans is ok. The best thing for the species would have been to eliminate those 4.

But Neumann is more worried about the reaction of people who hear his story. "I don't want the message to be about this vicious horrible animal.

"I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time," said Neumann. "I don't want people to fear going in the outdoors, because it's so beautiful."
Victim answers you. That guy is an outdoorsman. Read it again.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by Iskra

But Neumann is more worried about the reaction of people who hear his story. "I don't want the message to be about this vicious horrible animal.

"I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time," said Neumann. "I don't want people to fear going in the outdoors, because it's so beautiful."
Victim answers you. That guy is an outdoorsman. Read it again.

You can read this article any way you want to but this same guy that doesn't want people to be afraid of the outdoors can't even go into his own friggin back yard now. If he was an "outdoors man" before he sure as hell isn't any more. He will never get over his fear of bears and if he ever does go into the bush again I will bet you any money he will be packing major firepower and he won't be alone. Bear attacks human, bear need to die, end of story.

[blacknorthernjk]

Originally Posted by Dean2

You can read this article any way you want to but this same guy that doesn't want people to be afraid of the outdoors can't even go into his own friggin back yard now. If he was an "outdoors man" before he sure as hell isn't any more. He will never get over his fear of bears and if he ever does go into the bush again I will bet you any money he will be packing major firepower and he won't be alone. Bear attacks human, bear need to die, end of story.

Here here

[Bigrib]

Interesting the mother bear didn't kill the guy and walked with him back to his truck . I'd call that a tolerant bear .

[Big Grey Wolf]

Sorry mother grizz walked/chased him out of bush away from her cubs, if he had even stumbled and fell, things would have gotten much worse and she would have thrashed him again. No such thing as a tolerant mother grizz with threat near her cubs.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Sorry mother grizz walked/chased him out of bush away from her cubs, if he had even stumbled and fell, things would have gotten much worse and she would have thrashed him again. No such thing as a tolerant mother grizz with threat near her cubs.

Bingo.

Dude should have had a 6.5 Creedmoor. Just the sight of it would have made that bear haul arse in the other direction

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by Bigrib

Interesting the mother bear didn't kill the guy and walked with him back to his truck . I'd call that a tolerant bear .

Do NOT go into bear country. If you think a Bear is Tolerant you really don't understand Bear behaviour.

[roughneckin]

Mommas do what mommas do. She felt there was a threat to her babies and removed the threat. Happy he made it out alive.

[Jjolg123]

Originally Posted by Dean2

You can read this article any way you want to but this same guy that doesn't want people to be afraid of the outdoors can't even go into his own friggin back yard now. If he was an "outdoors man" before he sure as hell isn't any more. He will never get over his fear of bears and if he ever does go into the bush again I will bet you any money he will be packing major firepower and he won't be alone. Bear attacks human, bear need to die, end of story.

So now you speak for the man? You seem to have an irrational fear of bears must be fun enjoying the outdoors. I know for a fact the lady that was mauled in the isolation area of 402 still went out with her husband for years after and had no ill will towards bears. Some people choose to enjoy rather than just look over their shoulder the whole life. Did you know falling coconuts kill more people every year than bears??? Time we wipe them out first

[creeky]

Originally Posted by Jjolg123

So now you speak for the man? You seem to have an irrational fear of bears must be fun enjoying the outdoors. I know for a fact the lady that was mauled in the isolation area of 402 still went out with her husband for years after and had no ill will towards bears. Some people choose to enjoy rather than just look over their shoulder the whole life. Did you know falling coconuts kill more people every year than bears??? Time we wipe them out first

I've heard this ladies story first hand and her recall and understanding of the sow grizzly with cubs in this situation is crystal clear-she believes the bear was tolerant and cut her some major league big time slack.

Slack that saved her life and she will look you straight in the eye and educate an irrationally intolerant person that there are indeed tolerant bears.

Great lady with an even greater outlook.


Creeky....


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[Bigrib]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Do NOT go into bear country. If you think a Bear is Tolerant you really don't understand Bear behaviour.

You must live in a city and hunt from a truck you seem very afraid of bears . I won't try and educate you clearly it would be of no use .

[270person]

Originally Posted by Bigrib

Interesting the mother bear didn't kill the guy and walked with him back to his truck . I'd call that a tolerant bear .

I'd call one that tried walking me back to my truck a bear with a ripping 225gr headache.

Should such circumstances arise I dont plan on conversing in an effort to determine it's tolerance. Far better for it to determine mine......IF I have the luxury of seeing it first. Dont be aggressive and i wont be either. Lots of room in the woods for both of us without Smoky getting all uppity.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Bigrib

You must live in a city and hunt from a truck you seem very afraid of bears . I won't try and educate you clearly it would be of no use .

Mmmmm... I would rethink that. Though he would never say it, Dean has likely shot more bears than any person on this forum. At least I'd feel confident wagering money on it. That is what happens when you live in bear country and fish and wildlife calls you to look after problem/nuisance bear complaints over multiple decades. Just sayin.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by 270person

I'd call one that tried walking me back to my truck a bear with a ripping 225gr headache.

Should such circumstances arise I dont plan on conversing in an effort to determine it's tolerance. Far better for it to determine mine......IF I have the luxury of seeing it first. Dont be aggressive and i wont be either. Lots of room in the woods for both of us without Smoky getting all uppity.

The bear was doing what bears do. This fellow went for a stroll in known bear country in prepared for an encounter. He paid a price. If momma bear wanted him dead we’d be reading a different story. I’d be all for killing this bear if it killed the man or stalked him and killed him. She escorted him off of her domain and likely moved her brood out of the territory.

Why are we surprised when a bear is being a bear?

BW

[270person]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

The bear was doing what bears do. This fellow went for a stroll in known bear country in prepared for an encounter. He paid a price. If momma bear wanted him dead we’d be reading a different story. I’d be all for killing this bear if it killed the man or stalked him and killed him. She escorted him off of her domain and likely moved her brood out of the territory.

Why are we surprised when a bear is being a bear?

BW

Bear can be a bear at a distance just fine. Rub year arse on a tree. Dig up a squirrel. Eat some berries. It's all good if it stays outside the zone and doesn't get threatening. I'm not there to for it and hopefully it isn't there for me.

Alberta Stand Your Ground law if you will.

[CanuckShooter]

Surprising she didn't kill him, he is a lucky fellow. This attack happened within walking distance of our home so we will have to keep an eye out for marauding grizzly bears now I guess.

[huntinstuff]

They should capture that mother bear and let her give lessons to some human mothers and fathers on how to care for their young

[fordtruckin]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

They should capture that mother bear and let her give lessons to some human mothers and fathers on how to care for their young

HA best post of the thread!!

[Dean2]

Thanks Shane, and you are right, I would not have posted that. All in however, it never ceases to amaze me just how many key board experts show up on AO regularly. Guys that have been up close to one or two bears or who have shot maybe 1 to 5 bears think their experience can be extrapolated as generally applicable. Worse yet are the people who have never been nearer to a Bear than the Disney channel who still think they are experts based on the full blown propaganda on T.V.

Bears learn and they learn very fast. All this encounter did was teach the Female and her cubs that Humans are nothing to be real afraid of. You can stalk them with impunity. If the guy that was attacked had run or fallen he would be dead, so the whole tolerance BS is out the window. Since they weren't put down, the next outdoors man may not be nearly as lucky. Grizzlies hunt, attack, kill and eat full grown black bears as a food source. As Grizzlies fear of man diminishes they see us more and more as a slow moving food source.

I do not care what the average Joe believes, Bears that attack or stalk humans need to be shot, period.

[Jays toyz]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Thanks Shane, and you are right, I would not have posted that. All in however, it never ceases to amaze me just how many key board experts show up on AO regularly. Guys that have been up close to one or two bears or who have shot maybe 1 to 5 bears think their experience can be extrapolated as generally applicable. Worse yet are the people who have never been nearer to a Bear than the Disney channel who still think they are experts based on the full blown propaganda on T.V.

Bears learn and they learn very fast. All this encounter did was teach the Female and her cubs that Humans are nothing to be real afraid of. You can stalk them with impunity. If the guy that was attacked had run or fallen he would be dead, so the whole tolerance BS is out the window. Since they weren't put down, the next outdoors man may not be nearly as lucky. Grizzlies hunt, attack, kill and eat full grown black bears as a food source. As Grizzlies fear of man diminishes they see us more and more as a slow moving food source.

I do not care what the average Joe believes, Bears that attack or stalk humans need to be shot, period.

If there was only 50 left in the wild there may be strong case to let them live. With thousands, I agree, kill all the problem bears.

[Bigrib]

Originally Posted by sns2

Mmmmm... I would rethink that. Though he would never say it, Dean has likely shot more bears than any person on this forum. At least I'd feel confident wagering money on it. That is what happens when you live in bear country and fish and wildlife calls you to look after problem/nuisance bear complaints over multiple decades. Just sayin.

Hmmm and are moderators supposed to refrain from bias and personal opinion on a forum ?

You seem to be impressed by the shooting of bears over garbage cans for decades , I’d wager money on it .... just sayin