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Old 10-10-2015, 12:17 PM
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What I really want to see is a female police officer wearing NIQUAB....
She'd be a good candidate for a SWAT Team.

Some guy's here might get turned on by that - a heavily armed chick with her face covered.
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:28 PM
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:37 PM
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Does she choose to cover her face because she really wants to, or because she fears what will happen to her if she doesn't?
That's my point. I don't know her reasons and unlike the poster I was responding to, I will not make assumptions and make decisions "for her own good."

Once she is a Canadian citizen she has the law on her side if she is being forced to wear it against her will and the right to wear it if she chooses.

If she removes it for the ceremony is it because she wants to or is it because she fears the consequences?
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:48 PM
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She stated in an article I read on the subject that she chose to start wearing a niqab when she was 15. No one else in her family wears them, and she started wearing one after discussions with a female teacher who wore one.
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Old 10-10-2015, 01:47 PM
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Old 10-10-2015, 01:58 PM
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While picking up bevvies for our family Thanksgiving, the lady behind the counter is a Muslim. Having known her for many years, I asked her where her niqab was. She, being a 3rd generation Canadian, asked me what the hell I was talking about!!! It did take her some time to realize that I was jerking her chain. Her sisters, devout Muslims, wear the hajib. Not a huge problem.
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Old 10-10-2015, 04:10 PM
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Well its good to know there are several members on this board that will defend her husbands choice to force her to wear one if it comes to that.
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:59 PM
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Interesting to hear what Tarek Fatah has to say about it:
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/17...ag-of-islamism
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Old 10-10-2015, 06:02 PM
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http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/17...ag-of-islamism
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Old 10-10-2015, 06:50 PM
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Old 10-10-2015, 08:03 PM
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Well its good to know there are several members on this board that will defend her husbands choice to force her to wear one if it comes to that.
And several others that would deny her Canadian citizenship and send her back to where she came from and deprive her of the protections of Canadian laws protecting her from the same.
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Old 10-10-2015, 09:36 PM
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Old 10-10-2015, 09:45 PM
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And several others that would deny her Canadian citizenship and send her back to where she came from and deprive her of the protections of Canadian laws protecting her from the same.
Really? I have not seen one member post that she was not welcome. Maybe you are just blinded by your misogyny.
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Old 10-10-2015, 09:48 PM
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That's my point. I don't know her reasons and unlike the poster I was responding to, I will not make assumptions and make decisions "for her own good."

Once she is a Canadian citizen she has the law on her side if she is being forced to wear it against her will and the right to wear it if she chooses.

If she removes it for the ceremony is it because she wants to or is it because she fears the consequences?
Yeah.. right ' maybe if she wasn't a Muslim
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:14 PM
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Really? I have not seen one member post that she was not welcome. Maybe you are just blinded by your misogyny.
I want her to have all of the rights and legal protections as any other Canadian woman.

How is that misogyny?
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Old 10-11-2015, 12:29 AM
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Well its good to know there are several members on this board that will defend her husbands choice to force her to wear one if it comes to that.
Did you not read the articAL where she said it was her choice to wear it and that she's been wearing it since she was 15. No one else in her family wears it just her and she started wearing it thanks to a female teacher she talked to about it. I know it's hard to comprehend but some women may actually like the idea of a niqab.

And while I don't support them in general and think they should be outlawed in certain places. I feel that at the citizenship ceremony they should be allowed as once they are a Canadian citizen they will have far more help getting out of an abusive relationship then if we deny citizenship and send the woman home.
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Old 10-11-2015, 07:07 AM
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I was at Walmart ,there is need for a Niqab inspectors , you know to hand them out . If not why not .....
Woof woof , there are some women ,just born to wear a Niqab .

Remember we Rightards don't care what you want ,tow the line or get out .
You elected us to decide what is right for you .
Not like the Dippers who decide what is left for you .

Just like every other deviant behaviour , long hair ,tattoos, piercings
Mohawks, obesity, going bra less , niqabs , fanny packs , Tilley hats
Camo at a wedding , bad BO , look like a weirdo and society will
Act in kind .....fortunately there's a shortage of stones laying around
Or as they call it in Arab countries ,collateral damage .

I decided to wear a mask at 15 ....brain dead .....15 yr old girl
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:17 AM
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Did you not read the articAL where she said it was her choice to wear it and that she's been wearing it since she was 15. No one else in her family wears it just her and she started wearing it thanks to a female teacher she talked to about it. I know it's hard to comprehend but some women may actually like the idea of a niqab.

And while I don't support them in general and think they should be outlawed in certain places. I feel that at the citizenship ceremony they should be allowed as once they are a Canadian citizen they will have far more help getting out of an abusive relationship then if we deny citizenship and send the woman home.
And have I not responded to this same point that you keep repeating that it really does not matter. The niqab symbolizes suppression and abuse of women. The citizenship ceremony symbolizes acceptance of Canadian culture and laws. As a country we find abuse of women to be unacceptable. That someone needs to be reminded of this at the ceremony is troubling. That some people are supportive of this support for mysogyny in the name of freedom of choice is equally troubling.
If this woman cannot fathom the troubling issues the niqab represents who will educate her? Apparently there are some here that think Canada as a nation should just ignore the issue and hope it goes away. Do you want to address racism this way too? If something is morally wrong it is our duty as good citizens to bring it up. If you support the symbols and practices of mysogyny then sorry but you are a mysogynist.
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Old 10-11-2015, 09:59 AM
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If you do not wanna accept Canadian law, value and tradition. Please do not apply Canadian citizenship. You can keep all you **** and bring back where you from.
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:22 AM
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And have I not responded to this same point that you keep repeating that it really does not matter. The niqab symbolizes suppression and abuse of women. The citizenship ceremony symbolizes acceptance of Canadian culture and laws. As a country we find abuse of women to be unacceptable. That someone needs to be reminded of this at the ceremony is troubling. That some people are supportive of this support for mysogyny in the name of freedom of choice is equally troubling.
If this woman cannot fathom the troubling issues the niqab represents who will educate her? Apparently there are some here that think Canada as a nation should just ignore the issue and hope it goes away. Do you want to address racism this way too? If something is morally wrong it is our duty as good citizens to bring it up. If you support the symbols and practices of mysogyny then sorry but you are a mysogynist.
And in Canada we have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. No one believes domestic abuse is good but it will happen Niqab or no Niqab of that I'm certain. I know its hard for you to comprehend but some women may want to wear the niqab as a voluntary choice because thats the way they were raised or their personal choice for whatever reason. Do I agree with it? No, but In Canada its their right if they so choose. As I said in the other thread theres a hell of a lot more other things happening in Canada that are worse then a women covering her face because of rights and freedoms.
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:34 AM
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Raised that way .....we have plenty of our own traditional religious cults .
Designed to screw people up .
This mosaic horse manure is the undoing of our hard fought for, Canadian
Traditions . All this Liberal Socislist prattle has to be squashed .
Plain and simple . A Harper majority will put you people back in the closet
Which by the way is kinda empty ,since all this human lefts agenda made being
Gay ,some kind of special right . Country's in the crapper , only Super
Steve can save it .
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:41 AM
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Just like every other deviant behaviour , long hair ,tattoos, piercings
Mohawks, obesity, going bra less , niqabs , fanny packs , Tilley hats
Camo at a wedding , bad BO , look like a weirdo and society will
Act in kind .....fortunately there's a shortage of stones laying around
What do you mean with this comment?
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Old 10-11-2015, 03:01 PM
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And in Canada we have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. No one believes domestic abuse is good but it will happen Niqab or no Niqab of that I'm certain. I know its hard for you to comprehend but some women may want to wear the niqab as a voluntary choice because thats the way they were raised or their personal choice for whatever reason. Do I agree with it? No, but In Canada its their right if they so choose. As I said in the other thread theres a hell of a lot more other things happening in Canada that are worse then a women covering her face because of rights and freedoms.
And I know its a hard thing for you to comprehend but we advance a cause by showing the error in other ways and promoting the right way. Paying lip service to misogyny at a citizenship ceremony is wrong. Furthermore, before the ceremony these people are not citizens so I am not really sure why you are so concerned. We set a standard of behaviour expected of a citizen, and it is something as small as paying lip service to gender equality and we are given the finger. Once through the ceremony this woman can head off and teach other young ladies the benefits of being abused to her heart's content and she is fully able to because she does have the charter of rights protecting her free speech.
You continuing to support misogyny is strange but nothing I am not used to from the left.
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Old 10-11-2015, 06:15 PM
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I was at Walmart ,there is need for a Niqab inspectors , you know to hand them out . If not why not .....
Woof woof , there are some women ,just born to wear a Niqab .
There's a lot of dudes there that should wear Walmart Niqab's too!

(Friggin dirty sweatpants, dangling down too low; BO one can actually see wafting off them; "Less than olympian pysiques"; COMB YOUR HAIR!!!, etc)

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Old 10-11-2015, 06:32 PM
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Old 10-16-2015, 07:38 PM
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The woman in the niqab work in a radical organization
Zunera Ishaq is a volunteer for an association linked to the Jamaat-e-Islami, whose armed wing is considered a terrorist organization

Zunera Ishaq became a central figure in the election campaign when the Federal Court of Appeal allowed him to be sworn in with her ​​niqab, after two years of fighting. The Harper government then announced that he would appeal to the Supreme Court. Below is a copy of the invitation to a meeting of the Islamic Circle of North America, which took place at home.

Hugo Joncas and Andrew McIntosh, Investigation Bureau

The woman in the niqab, which deflects the campaign work within an organization linked to the Jamaat-e-Islami, a Pakistani Islamist party that several Western countries consider a terrorist organization.

Zunera Ishaq is the mother of family that oath of citizenship with a niqab, October 9, having beaten until Federal Court of Appeal to be able to.

This woman Mississauga also work within the feminine branch of the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA Sisters).

Specialists consider this organization as a North American subsidiary of Jamaat-e-Islami, a Pakistani Islamist party whose armed wing is considered a terrorist organization, including the European Union.
Last January, Zunera Ishaq even hosted at his home in Mississauga a ICNA Sisters charitable activities planning meeting for the year 2015, according to a document found by our Investigation Bureau on the organization's website .


On his blog, the Canadian terrorism expert Tom Quiggin stressed this week its support to the ICNA and the Jamaat-e-Islami on his Facebook account.

The documents has found our Bureau of Investigation show that it actively took part in meetings of the ICNA.

Funds for the Jamaat-e-Islami

Since 2012, the ICNA multiplies donations to a Pakistani organization controlled by the Jamaat-e-Islami, according to the Revenue Canada website.

The organization gave $ 633,000 to projects of Al-Khidmat Foundation, the charitable arm of Jamaat-e-Islami in Pakistan.

In 2013, another Islamist organization has lost its status as a charity because of remittances to Jamaat-e-Islami.

On Facebook, the Zunera Ishaq profile says she is a member of the Facebook group of the Pakistani party.

Until yesterday, his account also mentioned that she worked for ICNA Sisters, but this mention has disappeared as a result of our calls.

"Against Violence"

Zunera Ishaq has not responded to our questions. His lawyer sent us a statement in which he said that "Mrs. Ishaq did administrative work at the Muslim school of ICNA once a week and volunteers in their activities women's shelters, food bank and help the poor. "

"The fact that it supports a Muslim school (...) does not mean that everything that approves the ICNA" notes Mr. Lorne Waldman.

He added that Ishaq Zunera "has never supported violence, and never will support".

"It's just a personal choice to live my faith here," said Ishaq Zunera CBC about her fight for the niqab for oaths.

At the Canadian Coalition of progressive Muslim organizations, the Canadian-Pakistani author Tahir Gora does not.

"His motives are more than political. The country's Muslims reject what it does to 99%, he said. It distorts Islam. "

For its part, the Federation of Muslim Women supports the decision of the Federal Court of Appeal on the niqab, which she "supports the values ​​and religious freedom for all citizens of Canada cherish."
For Sharia

Hugo Joncas, Investigation Bureau

The Islamic Circle of America was founded in the 1970s by Islamist Pakistan and India. It is linked to Jamaat-e-Islami, which seeks the establishment of Islamic governments and laws.

The armed wing of the Pakistani party, Hizbul Mujahideen, is considered a terrorist group by the European Union because of his struggle for the establishment of an Islamic state in Kashmir.

The Jamaat-e-Islami is also a traditional support of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Dictator

In the 1980s, the party supported the Pakistan General Zia ul-Haq, who was hanged in 1979 the elected president of the nation, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, after a coup backed by the United States.

The Jamaat-e-Islami then helped the dictator to maintain its authoritarian grip on Pakistan for nine years, while the political parties and the parliamentary system were abolished.

To keep the Islamists favors, Zia ul-Haq in particular forced women to veil themselves on television and introduced the death penalty for blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad.

Zunera Ishaq was still a member of the Facebook group Jamaat-e-Islami at the time of going to press.


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Old 10-17-2015, 12:12 AM
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