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Old 02-08-2018, 09:33 AM
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Default A wedge issue?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...-bid-1.4525775

This is an example of a couple of things; the campaign for the next election in Alberta is in full swing, and the government thinks that this issue will help them get re-elected.

The ideal issue is one where new votes are attracted to your party and the opponents are already supporters of you opponents. The ideal new supporter is a new voter, that is the youth or immigrant population.

Bear in mind governments don't do things like this because of a sense of right and wrong, just will it help get us re-elected.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:53 AM
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Default Half Baked Conservation Motive

The range of the Grizzly Bears in Question is large. The Grizzly bear habitat is already hemmed in to the East by human development.

The Grizzly Bear population requires corridors to link populations, or allow populations to spread out to suitable habitat to build the population.

The focus has to be on preserving the corridors so populations do not get isolated, and genetically become inferior by interbreeding.

However, the goal of governments trying for re election is to tap a support group that will reciprocate with money and volunteer time to ensure that the party gets re elected. The party then makes a half hearted effort to keep milking the support group for time and money.

This was the strategy of the Federal Conservatives in relation to Crime Prevention, Impaired Driving (MADD and PAID), and reaching out to individual members of the Military.

If conservation really was the issue, we would see a concerted effort to link the Swan Hills area, the Cypress hills area, and the porcupine Hills area, with protected corridors (Wildland Parks) to ensure that the mountain populations and the parkland populations could move back and forth in security, and the population could grow and re establish old ranges.

But just like it is easy to beat up on Drunk Drivers, its easy to beat up on motorized recreational users of the foothills area.

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Old 02-08-2018, 10:01 AM
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Good example of how Forestry companies do not give a darn about Grizz. West Fraser/BRL/ANC are logging the heck out of the grizz corridor between Berland River/Grande Cache and Swan Hills. They cut 1000+ acre "godzilla" cutblocks then biologists wonder why bears will not migrate through the new Saskatchewan grassland prairie.
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:07 PM
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Off road vehicles are great, but should never allowed where they might disturb,,wildlife especially the grizzly population, but with all the logging and such,it's just a matter of time and not lots,when they will be gone,or jeopardized beyond recovery, just my 2 cents worth.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:20 PM
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There are several g-bears trapped east of 22 every year. Not sure why we want more of them to migrate out of the foothills.

Plenty of bears migrate east of of the Grande Cache and Grande Prairie areas also.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:06 PM
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Not to worry AB will have plenty of G Bears. BC has cancelled the G Bear hunt. They can't go any further West, so they have to go East.
If you figure there are 15000 G Bears in BC. If half of them are female, that is 7500.
If half of them have young this spring that is 3750 new G Bears on the ground.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:31 PM
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The range of the Grizzly Bears in Question is large. The Grizzly bear habitat is already hemmed in to the East by human development.

The Grizzly Bear population requires corridors to link populations, or allow populations to spread out to suitable habitat to build the population.

The focus has to be on preserving the corridors so populations do not get isolated, and genetically become inferior by interbreeding.

However, the goal of governments trying for re election is to tap a support group that will reciprocate with money and volunteer time to ensure that the party gets re elected. The party then makes a half hearted effort to keep milking the support group for time and money.

This was the strategy of the Federal Conservatives in relation to Crime Prevention, Impaired Driving (MADD and PAID), and reaching out to individual members of the Military.

If conservation really was the issue, we would see a concerted effort to link the Swan Hills area, the Cypress hills area, and the porcupine Hills area, with protected corridors (Wildland Parks) to ensure that the mountain populations and the parkland populations could move back and forth in security, and the population could grow and re establish old ranges.

But just like it is easy to beat up on Drunk Drivers, its easy to beat up on motorized recreational users of the foothills area.

Drewski
Grizzlies are already on the prairies down south, in fact I’d make a guess that the foothills going towards the parkland is probably some of the faster growing populations. Without the hunt they aren’t hemmed I’m so much any more.
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