Police Everywhere

[Weedy1]

The EPS Salary Schedule
Rank Annual* Bi - weekly* Hourly*
1st Year Constable $67 414 $2 583 $32.28
2nd Year Constable $71 439 $2 737 $34.21
3rd Year Constable $83 513 $3 200 $39.99
4th Year Constable $91 563 $3 508 $43.85
5th Year Constable $100 619 $3 855 $48.18

Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $107 662 $4 125 $51.56

Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $109 674 $4 202 $52.52
Sergeant /Detective $120 742 $4 626 $57.82
Staff Sergeant $132 816 $5 089 $63.60

[vcmm]

Police ............HMMM Pig not all but many =
Perseverance
Integrity
Guts
I wouldn't want the job of catch and release because of our legal system.

[CNP]

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[Ariu]

Originally Posted by kingrat

Well I gotta say that from my experiences some of the most smartest highly educated people are some of the stupidest people I've ever met. You seem to fit that.

It doesn't hurt to read through the thread, before answering with cheap sarcasm. Or maybe it is because... Yeah right, nevermind.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Ariu

It doesn't hurt to read through the thread, before answering with cheap sarcasm. Or maybe it is because... Yeah right, nevermind.

Hello?.....Kettle? Ya, well, it's hmmmm Pot here. Ya, Well, i wanted to tell you I noticed something i don't like about about you........

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by fishpro

The last two days I have seen an absolute ton of people pulled over in Calgary, it seems like every other street there's someone pulled over. Anyone know if there's a crackdown going on / changes to ticket polices, etc.?

People complained about the photo radar too much so now the cops are out and about, people are going to complain about that too.....shaaaadaap!

[Jack Hardin]

Originally Posted by Ariu

This is such BS. A police officer has no formal education and yet gets paid more than a skilled worker, or even more as someone with a degree.
Every time right before election, you hear how under-powered they are, how the force morale is sliding and crap like that.
Now you come to know they have quotas on tickets! Is this, how they keep the streets safe?

About 5 yrs ago, the education level of police officers came up in Calgary and, it was shown that approximately 90% of CPS officers had a degree, some had two degrees and one had a Ph.D.

[buckbrush]

Originally Posted by Weedy1

The EPS Salary Schedule
Rank Annual* Bi - weekly* Hourly*
1st Year Constable $67 414 $2 583 $32.28
2nd Year Constable $71 439 $2 737 $34.21
3rd Year Constable $83 513 $3 200 $39.99
4th Year Constable $91 563 $3 508 $43.85
5th Year Constable $100 619 $3 855 $48.18

Sr. Constable, Level I
(8 Years Complete) $107 662 $4 125 $51.56

Sr. Constable, Level II
(11 Years Complete) $109 674 $4 202 $52.52
Sergeant /Detective $120 742 $4 626 $57.82
Staff Sergeant $132 816 $5 089 $63.60

So...After 11 years you COULD make 109k a year. Does anyone want to explain to me how these guys are over payed for what they do? I am just having a hard time getting a grip on this concept.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by buckbrush

So...After 11 years you COULD make 109k a year. Does anyone want to explain to me how these guys are over payed for what they do? I am just having a hard time getting a grip on this concept.

The complainants are usually people who are making half of that or less, and for good reason. I see someone has already noted the number of officers who have degrees, it well exceeds the average education pre-requisite for commenting on social media. As for the pay grade, also keep in mind that government jobs tend to have nice benefits and pension packages. Of course there the downside of shift work and dealing with drunks, druggies, criminals and the courts frustrating your efforts by the casual disregard with which they release recidivists.

[C2C3PO]

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

I see someone has already noted the number of officers who have degrees, it well exceeds the average education pre-requisite for commenting on social media.

Thank you for making my day ! Well said sir !

[Tigger72]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

You went through all the training with the CPS then you discussed pay? Really?You are either not that bright or you are all bull. Currant pay grades are available way before you make your application. It is certainly something they would have discussed before investing in the cost to train you. I call BS!

Maybe slightly worded wrong... training as in whole application process - testing seminars/physical testing/ medicals/ interviews.... I wasn't picking the job based on money.... but over that "time period" family life changes and it definitely wouldn't be feasible to support my family which to me is more important than a job change....( but thanks for questioning it.... I guess one needs to explain their life story when posting on the internet so the internet police don't get their panties in a bunch)
(Not all of us pick jobs based on money.....)

Originally Posted by Joe Black

Dude.

He wipes butts for a living now. Really must have been been a bad deal at CPS.

I hope you nothing but good health and truly hope you never need my help as a nurse.....as if you're seeing me you'll be needing me to survive and I would be maintaining your dignity by not letting you lay in your own **** ....

[1899b]

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[58thecat]

Originally Posted by buckbrush

So...After 11 years you COULD make 109k a year. Does anyone want to explain to me how these guys are over payed for what they do? I am just having a hard time getting a grip on this concept.

Well you show up everyday to simply work attempting to keep the peace amongst meatheads,hammerheads,druggies, muderers, etc...as the sun goes down the wankers wake up....and you are out there on patrol....seems a fair salary rate to me...if you dought they earn there pay head down to the recruiters office, give it a go, if you get past the testing, screening etc then you will know why they earn the salary they get. Good luck.

[.257Weatherby]

Originally Posted by Ariu

This is such BS. A police officer has no formal education and yet gets paid more than a skilled worker, or even more as someone with a degree.
Every time right before election, you hear how under-powered they are, how the force morale is sliding and crap like that.
Now you come to know they have quotas on tickets! Is this, how they keep the streets safe?

Originally Posted by fatboyz

What makes you think they have no formal Education? At least one degree in Law studies or Enforcement related, other education related, sociology etc also preferred. Then you go to the academy.

Thank you for enlightening that delusional guy...
No formal education ...roight !
Rob

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by Tigger72

Maybe slightly worded wrong... training as in whole application process - testing seminars/physical testing/ medicals/ interviews....
:

I took what you said as 'I was trained and qualified and I could have but it was my choice not to'

I have heard that story many times. They were probably polite when they declined your application, but you were probably not what the Police were looking for. From your post on the other thread, I can see why.

[buckbrush]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Well you show up everyday to simply work attempting to keep the peace amongst meatheads,hammerheads,druggies, muderers, etc...as the sun goes down the wankers wake up....and you are out there on patrol....seems a fair salary rate to me...if you dought they earn there pay head down to the recruiters office, give it a go, if you get past the testing, screening etc then you will know why they earn the salary they get. Good luck.

I think you might have misunderstood what I was getting at. I think that isn't much money for the BS they have to deal with. 109k after 11 years in IF you get to that level isn't exactly a high salary. I made that much when I was 22 years old working a much less stressful job than being a cop.

I was saying that with those numbers I don't understand how people can think cops are over paid...

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by buckbrush

I think you might have misunderstood what I was getting at. I think that isn't much money for the BS they have to deal with. 109k after 11 years in IF you get to that level isn't exactly a high salary. I made that much when I was 22 years old working a much less stressful job than being a cop.

I was saying that with those numbers I don't understand how people can think cops are over paid...

Sorry misread, your right there are occupations out there that pay more with a lot less stress etc but policing etc is something people do because it's what they like to do, same as othe professions, it makes them happy.

[buckbrush]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Sorry misread, your right there are occupations out there that pay more with a lot less stress etc but policing etc is something people do because it's what they like to do, same as othe professions, it makes them happy.

Couldn't agree more. You wouldn't last long if it was just for a pay check.

[RBI]

Originally Posted by fishpro

The last two days I have seen an absolute ton of people pulled over in Calgary, it seems like every other street there's someone pulled over. Anyone know if there's a crackdown going on / changes to ticket polices, etc.?

Feb is crack down on distracted driving month.

[jtiwana]

Originally Posted by Tigger72

Ha .... yes ...they are everywhere....view post on parking ticket...( mine ) feel free to comment ..... everyone else has....

Thanks for the humour, I ended up reading the whole thread.

[husky hunter]

Originally Posted by fishpro

The last two days I have seen an absolute ton of people pulled over in Calgary, it seems like every other street there's someone pulled over. Anyone know if there's a crackdown going on / changes to ticket polices, etc.?

Filling quotas and it's not 25.

[husky hunter]

Originally Posted by Tigger72

Ha .... yes ...they are everywhere....view post on parking ticket...( mine ) feel free to comment ..... everyone else has....

They are government employees that suddenly were struck with and uncontrollable urge to work their butts off........just kidding.

[AB2506]

Originally Posted by Ariu

I don't wanted to turn this to a discussion about the police pay. What I wanted to say is that police force is costing taxpayers a lot of money and they are there to make the streets safe.
Is this how they make the streets safe? By giving 25 traffic tickets a month?

Best quit well you are ahead. Your ignorance is very telling.

[-JR-]

Good for them ,they deserve to get paid for protecting us,and dealing with stuff we don't want to even see from day today.
With out them people would be speeded ever where.
Nabours would be shooting each other etc.

I almost think they should get paid more.
They are getting the same wage as most GOOD trades men in Edmonton.


If anyone complains,they are always hiring .

[AB2506]

We had best all be glad that enforcement officers don't write tickets to their limit, as there is no limit .

On occasion, when I've issued a ticket, I've been asked "how much is your cut?" (from the fine amount). The answer is nothing. I tell the accused that that is a good thing. If we were paid a cut of the fines issued, I'd be issuing a bunch more.

[spoiledsaskhunter]

since retiring to ab, I have constantly noted the absolute ignoring of ALL the basic rules here.........I could make a book of it all, but suffice to say police do not pay attention to all the rules that everyone ignores

fog lights on while atmospheric conditions are perfectly clear
headlight/tail light covers
roll through stop signs/u turns in the middle of the street
loud mufflers (especially on motorcycles)
speeding
vehicle equipment regs
seat belts
distracted diving, are but a few...........ALL the basic driving rules are being ignored all the time

these are basic rules of the road that are in place to keep everyone safe and that a lot of policemen/women do not want to enforce because it might p*iss someone off.

if they have somehow got the message and are finally starting to enforce laws that have been on the books forever.....GOOD ON 'EM!

if they are making 100 grand a year, it's their job to be looking after ALL of the above, p*ssing people off or not.

roast me; i've got a thick skin.....'cause there are a bunch of you out there that figure it's your licence to drive as you wish.

yeeeewww.now I feel better!

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by spoiledsaskhunter

since retiring to ab, I have constantly noted the absolute ignoring of ALL the basic rules here.........I could make a book of it all, but suffice to say police do not pay attention to all the rules that everyone ignores

fog lights on while atmospheric conditions are perfectly clear
headlight/tail light covers
roll through stop signs/u turns in the middle of the street
loud mufflers (especially on motorcycles)
speeding
vehicle equipment regs
seat belts
distracted diving, are but a few...........ALL the basic driving rules are being ignored all the time

these are basic rules of the road that are in place to keep everyone safe and that a lot of policemen/women do not want to enforce because it might p*iss someone off.

if they have somehow got the message and are finally starting to enforce laws that have been on the books forever.....GOOD ON 'EM!

if they are making 100 grand a year, it's their job to be looking after ALL of the above, p*ssing people off or not.

roast me; i've got a thick skin.....'cause there are a bunch of you out there that figure it's your licence to drive as you wish.

yeeeewww.now I feel better!

There is a law that prohibits fog lights from being on when there is no fog?

That must save 1000 lives a year, mostly children too.

[hogie]

Originally Posted by spoiledsaskhunter

since retiring to ab, I have constantly noted the absolute ignoring of ALL the basic rules here.........I could make a book of it all, but suffice to say police do not pay attention to all the rules that everyone ignores

fog lights on while atmospheric conditions are perfectly clear
headlight/tail light covers
roll through stop signs/u turns in the middle of the street
loud mufflers (especially on motorcycles)
speeding
vehicle equipment regs
seat belts
distracted diving, are but a few...........ALL the basic driving rules are being ignored all the time

these are basic rules of the road that are in place to keep everyone safe and that a lot of policemen/women do not want to enforce because it might p*iss someone off.

if they have somehow got the message and are finally starting to enforce laws that have been on the books forever.....GOOD ON 'EM!

if they are making 100 grand a year, it's their job to be looking after ALL of the above, p*ssing people off or not.

roast me; i've got a thick skin.....'cause there are a bunch of you out there that figure it's your licence to drive as you wish.

yeeeewww.now I feel better!

By fog lamps do you mean driving lights? Standard on most vehicles and legal.
Noise is a municipal bylaw for most part. Edmonton has bylaw for bikes.

I suggest you talk on your cellphone , speed , roll through stop signs, not wear your seatbelt every time you see a police car and see if they will pull you over. I'm sure they will. I see it daily.

Lots of poor drivers with not enough police. If there are more police cars on road people follow the rules.

Sometimes they have to do something that may be more important than worrying about a traffic violation. Few weeks ago I saw a police car use his lights to go through traffic to get gas. I was upset about it, not what it is for. Found out couple of days later they had multiple vehicles out searching for a criminal that had stolen a vehicle and had led police on a chase. He was on the job, and needed gas to continue helping. That explained why he looked do p*ssed off filling up his car.

Occasionally I get to work on police vehicles as part of my job. Funny to watch everybody slow down, see brake lights come on because they are slowing down passing you on opposite side of road. Everyone comes to a stop, signals magically work.

[blacknorthernjk]

Originally Posted by spoiledsaskhunter

since retiring to ab, I have constantly noted the absolute ignoring of ALL the basic rules here.........I could make a book of it all, but suffice to say police do not pay attention to all the rules that everyone ignores

fog lights on while atmospheric conditions are perfectly clear
headlight/tail light covers
roll through stop signs/u turns in the middle of the street
loud mufflers (especially on motorcycles)
speeding
vehicle equipment regs
seat belts
distracted diving, are but a few...........ALL the basic driving rules are being ignored all the time

these are basic rules of the road that are in place to keep everyone safe and that a lot of policemen/women do not want to enforce because it might p*iss someone off.

if they have somehow got the message and are finally starting to enforce laws that have been on the books forever.....GOOD ON 'EM!

if they are making 100 grand a year, it's their job to be looking after ALL of the above, p*ssing people off or not.

roast me; i've got a thick skin.....'cause there are a bunch of you out there that figure it's your licence to drive as you wish.

yeeeewww.now I feel better!

Here, here, too true

[spoiledsaskhunter]

to hogie..........unless something has changed since my retirement, what everyone now calls driving lights are fog lights, and are only to be used when atmosphereic conditions require them.

while I am the first to admit that there is a fair bit of interpretation involved here, it does not include crystal clear weather when every a**hole on the road thinks he/she is cool while driving down the road blinding everyone else on the road.

my apologies for getting on a rant about poor driving habits. it's not exactly in line with the op.....but my message to law enforcement is 'take no hostages, and give em hell boys'.