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01-26-2016, 03:42 PM
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Warrant out for my arrest
At least according to the recorded message on my answering machine. They were decent enough to wish me a nice day Surprising part is people actually fall for these scams
Grizz
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01-26-2016, 03:45 PM
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There must be a significant number of people in our society who think that having a warrant out for their arrest is a likely or expected scenario...
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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01-26-2016, 03:50 PM
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Well Actually ....
If it is Municipal police or RCMP and it is something like an unpaid ticket, then you WANT to go down and deal with it AT THE POLICE STATION. Bring your Credit Card. Police are kind to those who come in on their own and do not challenge release as much when the person comes in. JUST DON'T SAY ANYTHING UNTIL YOU CALL A LAWYER!!!!
I get calls like this every month asking me why they are in jail and can't get out. Its called DEFAULT TIME. You pay or you stay. All it takes is burned out head light and then a warrant comes up, and you get the pleasure of being in until the unpaid fine has been served.
If it is a number to call back with a credit card to clear the warrant, then its a scam.
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01-26-2016, 03:50 PM
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Do you have to send money to a Nigerian prince in order to get out?...do they take Visa?
You might laugh this off (a you probably should) but there are victims that genuinely believe this stuff (perhaps some older folks) and I feel for them if they get sucked in.
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01-26-2016, 03:57 PM
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CRA scam? I've received that message multiple times too. The "have a nice day" at the end is too funny.
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01-26-2016, 04:09 PM
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I too have recieved a similar message onlly he told me if I ignored the call untold legal consequences would fall upon me and he would be unable to help me.He also told me to have a nice day.Which I did and I also ignored his cal and did not return it.
I did notify the RCMP and they said it is likely a scam of some sort.
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01-26-2016, 06:53 PM
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I called one of those guys back and told him I will pay when I get out of jail in about 20 yrs. Haven't had any of those calls for a while.
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01-26-2016, 07:00 PM
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The CRA scammer called a friend of mine last week. Funny thing was, he didn't know her name.
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01-26-2016, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck
If it is Municipal police or RCMP and it is something like an unpaid ticket, then you WANT to go down and deal with it AT THE POLICE STATION. Bring your Credit Card. Police are kind to those who come in on their own and do not challenge release as much when the person comes in. JUST DON'T SAY ANYTHING UNTIL YOU CALL A LAWYER!!!!
I get calls like this every month asking me why they are in jail and can't get out. Its called DEFAULT TIME. You pay or you stay. All it takes is burned out head light and then a warrant comes up, and you get the pleasure of being in until the unpaid fine has been served.
If it is a number to call back with a credit card to clear the warrant, then its a scam.
Drewski
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They do not phone you. If you have a warrant of any kind, and it is warrant enforcement week (?), they come and collect you in person.
I remember the best one ever. My neighbour phoned the cops as to a B & E at his house. They came, investigated, then arrested him for his outstanding traffic warrants and took him to the remand center. He called me very late at night to go down and bail him out, which I did, of course. They had not let him take his wallet with his debit card, so he could not access the funds. I had such a good belly laugh at his expense, and never let him forget it.
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01-26-2016, 07:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck
If it is Municipal police or RCMP and it is something like an unpaid ticket, then you WANT to go down and deal with it AT THE POLICE STATION. Bring your Credit Card. Police are kind to those who come in on their own and do not challenge release as much when the person comes in. JUST DON'T SAY ANYTHING UNTIL YOU CALL A LAWYER!!!!
I get calls like this every month asking me why they are in jail and can't get out. Its called DEFAULT TIME. You pay or you stay. All it takes is burned out head light and then a warrant comes up, and you get the pleasure of being in until the unpaid fine has been served.
If it is a number to call back with a credit card to clear the warrant, then its a scam.
Drewski
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It's called a Form 21.
You can pay that off at any time as long as you have the money.
If not, serve days in default.
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01-26-2016, 08:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
At least according to the recorded message on my answering machine. They were decent enough to wish me a nice day Surprising part is people actually fall for these scams
Grizz
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Tell then you have cash but stuck in a wheel chair and they should come over in person to collect.
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01-26-2016, 08:09 PM
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Had the CRA scam, they asked our SIN I tried to string them along and find out what they were after but they hung up.
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01-26-2016, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
At least according to the recorded message on my answering machine. They were decent enough to wish me a nice day Surprising part is people actually fall for these scams
Grizz
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Yeah, I got the same one. A guy who could barely speak English, a number from Ontario, the fact that he never named anyone in the household when he said to call back... Telemarketing hits a brand new low.
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01-26-2016, 08:16 PM
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Warrant out for my arrest ...
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It's about time!
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01-26-2016, 08:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schmedlap
They do not phone you. If you have a warrant of any kind, and it is warrant enforcement week (?), they come and collect you in person.
I remember the best one ever. My neighbour phoned the cops as to a B & E at his house. They came, investigated, then arrested him for his outstanding traffic warrants and took him to the remand center. He called me very late at night to go down and bail him out, which I did, of course. They had not let him take his wallet with his debit card, so he could not access the funds. I had such a good belly laugh at his expense, and never let him forget it.
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Ummmm, that's wrong actually. Ask me how I know
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01-26-2016, 08:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck
If it is Municipal police or RCMP and it is something like an unpaid ticket, then you WANT to go down and deal with it AT THE POLICE STATION. Bring your Credit Card. Police are kind to those who come in on their own and do not challenge release as much when the person comes in. JUST DON'T SAY ANYTHING UNTIL YOU CALL A LAWYER!!!!
I get calls like this every month asking me why they are in jail and can't get out. Its called DEFAULT TIME. You pay or you stay. All it takes is burned out head light and then a warrant comes up, and you get the pleasure of being in until the unpaid fine has been served.
If it is a number to call back with a credit card to clear the warrant, then its a scam.
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I disagree.... DO NOT go down to the police station. I know several people who were invited down to the station for various reasons "to chat" and were then locked up until bail was posted or the ticket was payed.
One of these people was my father, he had trouble starting his car one morning, decided to drive an uninsured beater to work rather than be late for work, got a ticket. He didn't have the money to pay the ticket off so he worked community service in what little spare time he had, but apparently missed a few hours. Years later my mom lost her mother, went a little loopy and wandered off. My dad phoned the police to have them keep an eye out for her, they told him to come down to the station to fill out some papers, then threw him in jail. Besides the stress of our mother having gone missing, and the lack of police help in finding her, we then had to come up with $3000 to get my dad out of jail.
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01-26-2016, 08:22 PM
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i had 3 warrants just last week , all from guys with weird african accents , luckily ill never go to africa so i shouldn't be arrested.
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01-26-2016, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushleague
I disagree.... DO NOT go down to the police station. I know several people who were invited down to the station for various reasons "to chat" and were then locked up until bail was posted or the ticket was payed.
One of these people was my father, he had trouble starting his car one morning, decided to drive an uninsured beater to work rather than be late for work, got a ticket. He didn't have the money to pay the ticket off so he worked community service in what little spare time he had, but apparently missed a few hours. Years later my mom lost her mother, went a little loopy and wandered off. My dad phoned the police to have them keep an eye out for her, they told him to come down to the station to fill out some papers, then threw him in jail. Besides the stress of our mother having gone missing, and the lack of police help in finding her, we then had to come up with $3000 to get my dad out of jail.
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That's a god damned shame to kick a man when he's down!
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01-26-2016, 09:52 PM
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I have had several of these calls and each time the person spoke perfect English. The have a nice day, was an interesting touch.
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01-26-2016, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
At least according to the recorded message on my answering machine. They were decent enough to wish me a nice day Surprising part is people actually fall for these scams
Grizz
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You say it like its the first time ....
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01-26-2016, 11:25 PM
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A buddy of mine got pulled over and threatened with arrest because he had an unpaid ticket for snow removal from his driveway! No joke!
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01-26-2016, 11:26 PM
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I haven't had any calls with threats of confinement.. I feel left out.
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01-26-2016, 11:32 PM
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What ya going to do when they come for you!
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
At least according to the recorded message on my answering machine. They were decent enough to wish me a nice day Surprising part is people actually fall for these scams
Grizz
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bad boys, bad boys...
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01-27-2016, 05:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushleague
I disagree.... DO NOT go down to the police station. I know several people who were invited down to the station for various reasons "to chat" and were then locked up until bail was posted or the ticket was payed.
One of these people was my father, he had trouble starting his car one morning, decided to drive an uninsured beater to work rather than be late for work, got a ticket. He didn't have the money to pay the ticket off so he worked community service in what little spare time he had, but apparently missed a few hours. Years later my mom lost her mother, went a little loopy and wandered off. My dad phoned the police to have them keep an eye out for her, they told him to come down to the station to fill out some papers, then threw him in jail. Besides the stress of our mother having gone missing, and the lack of police help in finding her, we then had to come up with $3000 to get my dad out of jail.
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Let me guess, Edmonton police department ? A few nice ones but most are just Richards with things like that. I think most is because of the Chief !
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01-27-2016, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puma
You say it like its the first time ....
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In my well rounded life, I actually spent a night in jail, so I can say it wasn't.
Grizz
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01-27-2016, 07:55 AM
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01-27-2016, 09:32 AM
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Unfortunately I do think things have changed for the worse.
I think the reasons are varied...from overworked cops (I know many of you think this a joke, but arrange for a 'ride along' as I did a few years ago...they do work for their money) to just the fact that Calgary and Edmonton are now 'big cities'.
I remember about 25 years ago. The cops showed up at my home unannounced because of some unpaid parking tickets. It was a Sunday and I had no cash. They asked if I had a debit card (which I did). They actually drove me to a local bank, let me withdraw the money I would need from the ATM and then took me downtown. I was sitting back home watching TV within two hours.
Don't think that would happen today.
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01-27-2016, 08:34 PM
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Let me guess, Edmonton police department ? A few nice ones but most are just Richards with things like that. I think most is because of the Chief !
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Yep, EPS. In any case getting thrown in jail wont help you pay off the ticket unless your friends feel sorry for you. Under different conditions I probably would have left my dad in there for a few days for not getting things sorted out earlier, at that point we had bigger problems to worry about.
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01-27-2016, 09:26 PM
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01-27-2016, 10:19 PM
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Bushleague,
I just do this stuff to make a living. I'm a U of A Law School grad class of '89and in private practice ever since. Don't listen to my advice, you sound so much more experienced. What's your Bar Number?
Too bad for your relative. If he had JUST PAID THE BALANCE OF THE FINE HE WOULD HAVE WALKED!!! if that really is the story.
The fact is, the harder you make it for law enforcement, for some CRAZY reason, the harder they make it on you. Just makes it easier on them and their workload for you to come in and clear the tickets. They respect that.
If you want to simply stick your head in the sand and think an investigation will go away, party on. There can be a lot of delays on a weekend to get a JP hearing if they pick you up on a warrant. By god, you can sit for days waiting for the JP, and that is the best case of getting charged, not outstanding fines. Or you can go down on a Tuesday Morning after speaking to Counsel so that they know to be on the ready to help.
If you have a reasonable constable, and not a scammer, he will usually talk to you if it is tickets overdue. Otherwise, he will want to "talk to you to hear your side of the story".
If it is something serious, just understand that their job is to get the evidence for a conviction, and they really don't care about your side of the story. YOU CANNOT TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF IT SO SHUT YOUR HOLE!
Call a lawyer, and sit tight until we can get you out. Talk to no one means talk to no one. Not the undercover who just fought with the guard and called cops stupid. Not the Janitor who is so nice. Not another inmate. No one but your lawyer, understand???
Form 21 is correct. Pay or Stay, is correct.
Drewski
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