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02-02-2016, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rugatika
I'm talking about the system we have right now. A system that expects people that work harder to pay more, and one where people that don't want to work, don't pay anything into the system at all. An "INEPTOCRACY" as the t-shirt says.
It's almost hard to blame this kid for thinking the way he does. He's just a little ahead of the game that's been being played for the last century. 20 years from now he'll likely be seen as a slave driver for expecting people to show up for work at all.
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The system we have now both Provincially/Federally is Socialism but it is more represented in certain Provinces.Those that work hard and such get taxed more to provide for the screwers of the dog(my own brother is a perfect example...never had more than 2 jobs in his life and niether of them lasted longer than 3 months) essentially the "haves" pay for the "have nots" with the former gaining ground but at the same time paying for the latter the whole time.
It is not a matter of being INEPT it is a matter of people systemically abusing the social safety net.I am 44 and the youngest of 3 kids.A friend of mine is 43 and the oldest of 3 kids.My father had a good work ethic and busted his hump to provide for his family.My friends mother was a welfare mom who abused the system and instilled the idea of using the system into her kids.I own my home that got paid for by hard work(with a down payment via an inheritance from my grand mother) and my friend is not only a renter but also a couch surfer who has been on EI by his own choice than I can remember...funny enough he has a good class 1 licence and if he had chosen to do as I suggested and get a pit haul job with Teck resources 5 years ago he would actually be on the property ladder....did not happen as he did not want to work alternating shifts and actually commit to a career as he liked to take his 6 month EI holidays and live like a filthy proletariate....the kicker is that he was jealous of what I had achieved and even went so far as to say I did not deserve it as it was handed to me because I used my inheritance to buy a house instead of foolishly spending it on a brand new truck like he would have.
During this 5 year time frame I constantly told the guy to grow a pair and grab the proverbial brass ring but no it was not to be as he was more interested in dragging himself down as well as letting parasitic members of his family drag him down as well....to be honest his mother was like a life sucking leach.
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02-02-2016, 07:33 PM
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Millennials are very smart and extremely stupid at the same time. It's what 20+ years of progressive brain washing from our schools and media does.
They hate big business yet love big government, never realizing that they are one of the same.
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02-02-2016, 07:47 PM
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Interesting point
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Originally Posted by chasingtail
Millennials are very smart and extremely stupid at the same time. It's what 20+ years of progressive brain washing from our schools and media does.
They hate big business yet love big government, never realizing that they are one of the same.
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This may sound a bit chauvinistic but I think the high levels of feminine influence in eduction remove the value of competition. Men thrive on it and women work and think more collectively.
I don't have children but several of my neighbours do. When I watch the little girls play they copy each other or play things that require group cooperation. The boys are racing each other hitting each other throwing farther than each other.
Thoughts?
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02-02-2016, 08:00 PM
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Basic Training for everyone upon graduation in the summer or the summer of 19th birthday.
Discipline and Teamwork never hurt anyone I know.
That would cost too much for the taxpayer though.
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02-02-2016, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jhutter
With a prediction like that, I think you might be wearing the tin foil hat. These videos are cherry picked and sensationalized. At this particular gathering, there could've been numerous intelligent conversations, but this one was chosen because it would garner the best response. It's no different than those old "talking to Americans" videos where the interviewer would ask the American public simple questions on the street and receive hilarious answers. This is cherry picking and not always representative of a general population.
It simply does not make any sense that "these types of people will be running things in the future". How successful of a business would "Noodles" be with that guy running it? Would it last? Would other businesses last with that particular type of leadership? Other than through inheritance, nepotism, or connections, management positions are acquired through training and hard work.
I assure you that if your children are bright, driven, hard working, and resourceful, they'll be doing the managing.
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Have you got any idea who the NDP mlas are. Watch the video again
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02-02-2016, 09:10 PM
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Have you got any idea who the NDP mlas are. Watch the video again
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Here we go! Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcXoEd8IF0g
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02-02-2016, 09:44 PM
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Though I don't think I was ever on the path of the young man in the video, I was raised knowing how to work. What an honest living was/is. But that said my uncle did one of the best things I remember as a teen.
At the age of 14 he said to me, 'You will be a man one day. As a man you will work for a living. If I ever hear of you being on welfare or living off the government, I will shoot you. Then I will bury you, and you know I have the land to do it.'
I definitely took that to heart, as harsh as some may think it was, I think it was out of love.
I miss him.
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02-02-2016, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Redfrog
Have you got any idea who the NDP mlas are. Watch the video again
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And they won't be there in 4 years.
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02-02-2016, 10:10 PM
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Man, you guys are breaking some original ground here.
Socrates just beat you too it by 2400 years, though.
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
(Possibly not actually said by Socrates, I'll admit, but it does come from the works of Plato, so somebody was on it about 2300 years ago, at least.)
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02-02-2016, 10:52 PM
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This person would be dismissed in an orderly fashion if it were my call to make.
I couldn't agree with Browntrout more and was brought up the same way
There is a pride factor involved.
I was fortinate enough to work in an old school atmosphere most of my life
A type of place where if you had an issue with someone you could go for a talk out back with him to settle some differences. With a stern get back to work from the boss on occasion.
Maybe it's just my old school thinking but I would close the doors before a union was even considered.
There's no room for candy Azz people in my neck of the woods
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02-02-2016, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by slickwilly
Man, you guys are breaking some original ground here.
Socrates just beat you too it by 2400 years, though.
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
(Possibly not actually said by Socrates, I'll admit, but it does come from the works of Plato, so somebody was on it about 2300 years ago, at least.)
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This is the point I was originally trying to make by saying that the guy was parroting Das Kapital. This isn't a new attitude.
Older generations have been critical of newer generations since the dawn of time.
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02-02-2016, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by markg
This may sound a bit chauvinistic but I think the high levels of feminine influence in education remove the value of competition. Men thrive on it and women work and think more collectively.
I don't have children but several of my neighbours do. When I watch the little girls play they copy each other or play things that require group cooperation. The boys are racing each other hitting each other throwing farther than each other.
Thoughts?
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Absolutely, women seem to run everything now including our boys sports team.
Early 20 something males are very feminine now, my gaydar used to be 100% but it isn't working properly with millennials, those glasses, little beards and skinny jeans. Imagine this bunch having to fight a war, god help us.
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02-03-2016, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by markg
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Wow. That guy is a socialist.
Unfortunately they breed and vote.
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