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Happy to Say I Get To Keep Living in Alberta
Not a perfect result, still can't believe both major cities think a communist party aligned with Ottawa is a great idea, but at least the rest of the Province retained its brains. I was never a fan of Alberta Seperation, but the idea has definitely grown on me. When you see how much worse things are in Canada compared to the thread I posted 6 years ago "Why Alberta is Resltless", it is pretty clear there is not much future for Alberta, within confederation. For the average person to have a good life in Alberta we need to put a stop to the crap the Feds are implementing and the list is far too long to write out. If the conservatives don't win federally in the next election, separation may be the only viable option.
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I agree. States have crappy health care but what we pay in taxes I could purchase private coverage for.my family. And still have more in my pocket.
Join Montana lol
We need to get serious kick the Rcmp out, and pray the corrupt liberals get the boot as well.
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05-29-2023, 11:12 PM
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Not a perfect result, still can't believe both major cities think a communist party aligned with Ottawa is a great idea, but at least the rest of the Province retained its brains. I was never a fan of Alberta Seperation, but the idea has definitely grown on me. When you see how much worse things are in Canada compared to the thread I posted 6 years ago "Why Alberta is Resltless", it is pretty clear there is not much future for Alberta, within confederation. For the average person to have a good life in Alberta we need to put a stop to the crap the Feds are implementing and the list is far too long to write out. If the conservatives don't win federally in the next election, separation may be the only viable option.
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This is the problem of many many new immigrants coming into Alberta.
Thomas Jefferson Quotes:
When foreigners are admitted into any state, in great numbers, they will become a faction and will soon outnumber the natives. This will beget a permanent faction, and faction, in the operations of Government, is the greatest evil." - Thomas Jefferson (Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781)
This was Jefferson's quote from his work "Notes on the State of Virginia" and expresses his concerns about large-scale immigration and the potential for foreign-born individuals to form factions that could disrupt the functioning of government. He highlights the idea that an overwhelming presence of foreigners within a society can create a distinct and powerful group that may undermine the interests of the native population. This quote underscores the need for careful consideration when dealing with immigration and its impact on domestic affairs.
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05-29-2023, 11:34 PM
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You know what's really sad? I know many members of this forum, as well as colleagues in education, who no longer feel safe in debating changes to/in society over these last 6 years. Think about that. They are professional educators who feel silenced to exercise foundational charter rights in the public square. If wanting to turn the clock back in many areas of life, not all, but many makes one a radical... count me in.
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05-29-2023, 11:36 PM
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Pretty much every major city in the Western world has steered to the left. Larger cities have a younger demographic, tradition/culture mean less, more dependent on services...
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05-29-2023, 11:36 PM
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I am hopeful that Dani will bring stability in many places, and time tested strategies in areas that need change. Conservatism.
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05-29-2023, 11:38 PM
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Pretty much every major city in the Western world has steered to the left. Larger cities have a younger demographic, tradition/culture mean less, more dependent on handouts...
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05-29-2023, 11:40 PM
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Pretty much every major city in the Western world has steered to the left. Larger cities have a younger demographic, tradition/culture mean less, more dependent on services...
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I'm in Edmonton. Lived here my whole life. Well versed in all my city's shortcomings, yet it's home. If I didn't have my youngest starting NAIT in the fall, I'd try to move. I'd love a small town school. Wife is from a real small town. She won't go.
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05-29-2023, 11:44 PM
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I'm in Edmonton. Lived here my whole life. Well versed in all my city's shortcomings, yet it's home. If I didn't have my youngest starting NAIT in the fall, I'd try to move. I'd love a small town school. Wife is from a real small town. She won't go.
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Crowsnest Consolidated High School Beware of BD
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05-29-2023, 11:45 PM
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Fixed it for you.
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05-30-2023, 07:00 AM
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We endured another attempt at a socialist takeover yesterday, but with the media and education system constantly pushing the woke agenda, we will eventually lose the battle. I am just thankful that I am old enough to have lived most of my life, before that happens. And being retired, I can at least speak my mind, unlike friends who are employed in the education system, and would lose their livelihood if they dared to speak out against the woke agenda, that is being forced upon them.
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The Premier was pretty gracious to NDP last night. I would suggest they move to their NDP utopia Vancouver and never come back.
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05-30-2023, 07:16 AM
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We endured another attempt at a socialist takeover yesterday, but with the media and education system constantly pushing the woke agenda, we will eventually lose the battle. I am just thankful that I am old enough to have lived most of my life, before that happens. And being retired, I can at least speak my mind, unlike friends who are employed in the education system, and would lose their livelihood if they dared to speak out against the woke agenda, that is being forced upon them.
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That why it’s up to US to confront this issue. Not stand down. Canadians are passive. They let government dictate to them. Whereas governments should fear the taxpayers. The governments can be fired at any time. (Alberta is good example of this. Redfords team was fired by taxpayers. NDP slipped in over a divided parties (conservative/ wild rose). Kenny united Conservative party fired NDP, and last night the NDP lost again. Liberals, green, Alberta party literally wiped out this election by succumbing to NDP).
What we are witnessing is larger Rural vs Urban divide. Whereas Rural areas value real, practical solutions vs Urban value false narratives, and unreal expectations. Therefore if you are and actor (Justin Trudeau, Biden, Zelensky), you win over the urban votes. This rural, urban divide is increasing, which to me is disheartening.
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That why it’s up to US to confront this issue. Not stand down. Canadians are passive. They let government dictate to them. Whereas governments should fear the taxpayers. The governments can be fired at any time. (Alberta is good example of this. Redfords team was fired by taxpayers. NDP slipped in over a divided parties (conservative/ wild rose). Kenny united Conservative party fired NDP, and last night the NDP lost again. Liberals, green, Alberta party literally wiped out this election by succumbing to NDP).
What we are witnessing is larger Rural vs Urban divide. Whereas Rural areas value real, practical solutions vs Urban value false narratives, and unreal expectations. Therefore if you are and actor (Justin Trudeau, Biden, Zelensky), you win over the urban votes. This rural, urban divide is increasing, which to me is disheartening.
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I think toll road's to Edmonton would be a good start. Free to go there but 5000 to leave.
Start offering one way public transportation to Vancouver.
Most rural problems are from urban experts that rule over us from a far. We have way to many laws and restrictions. If those liberals want more laws then make a rural castle law and whatever local law enforcement we have needs to be elected and accountable to the land owning tax payers that they are supposed to serve and not screw over
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05-30-2023, 08:05 AM
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I think toll road's to Edmonton would be a good start. Free to go there but 5000 to leave.
Start offering one way public transportation to Vancouver.
Most rural problems are from urban experts that rule over us from a far. We have way to many laws and restrictions. If those liberals want more laws then make a rural castle law and whatever local law enforcement we have needs to be elected and accountable to the land owning tax payers that they are supposed to serve and not screw over
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I don’t care how people in the cities live and I have no interest in telling them how to live, but it’s a one way street, if urban people control politics they immediately begin telling me how to live and make rules and laws that affect me and my way of live. Current federal politics is an example of this.
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05-30-2023, 08:07 AM
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What we are witnessing is larger Rural vs Urban divide. Whereas Rural areas value real, practical solutions vs Urban value false narratives, and unreal expectations. Therefore if you are and actor (Justin Trudeau, Biden, Zelensky), you win over the urban votes. This rural, urban divide is increasing, which to me is disheartening.
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This is true - and that's what struck me the most when reviewing the election results this morning.
And don't think for a moment that the feds and dippers won't capitalize on that divide to weaken Alberta's ability to resist their impositions.
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This is the problem of many many new immigrants coming into Alberta.
Thomas Jefferson Quotes:
When foreigners are admitted into any state, in great numbers, they will become a faction and will soon outnumber the natives. This will beget a permanent faction, and faction, in the operations of Government, is the greatest evil." - Thomas Jefferson (Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781)
This was Jefferson's quote from his work "Notes on the State of Virginia" and expresses his concerns about large-scale immigration and the potential for foreign-born individuals to form factions that could disrupt the functioning of government. He highlights the idea that an overwhelming presence of foreigners within a society can create a distinct and powerful group that may undermine the interests of the native population. This quote underscores the need for careful consideration when dealing with immigration and its impact on domestic affairs.
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Ottawa "seeds" certain areas of Canada to eventually sway the vote.While continuing to cater to visible minorities and special interest groups to win their loyalty.It's no accident.
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We endured another attempt at a socialist takeover yesterday, but with the media and education system constantly pushing the woke agenda, we will eventually lose the battle. I am just thankful that I am old enough to have lived most of my life, before that happens. And being retired, I can at least speak my mind, unlike friends who are employed in the education system, and would lose their livelihood if they dared to speak out against the woke agenda, that is being forced upon them.
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Here lies the problem, many Canadians lost their lives providing generations a better Canada. Those who fear loosing their jobs should be ashamed and are part of the problem.
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Here lies the problem, many Canadians lost their lives providing generations a better Canada. Those who fear loosing their jobs should be ashamed and are part of the problem.
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Tell that to someone that has a family to support, and a mortgage to pay, and is still 10 years from retirement. When they started their careers 20-25 years ago, the social justice nonsense didn't exist, or they would have chosen another career, but now ,at their age, with so much invested toward their pension, the options are very limited for them.
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Tell that to someone that has a family to support, and a mortgage to pay, and is still 10 years from retirement. When they started their careers 20-25 years ago, the social justice nonsense didn't exist, or they would have chosen another career, but now ,at their age, with so much invested toward their pension, the options are very limited for them.
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What did those who were called to defend our country tell their families as they left them behind not knowing if they would even come home ?
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A few more things
You can pick up all the lawn signs that you can find, and thank you very much. I used them for sighting in and they worked great.
Now this is important, regardless of which party that you supported, they need you now more than ever. Join the party, attend the annual meeting in your riding, it would be great if you would offer to be elected to the board. Vote for a new board that you think will help do all the things that you voted for; more jobs, investments, less government, what ever. If you don't go you may find that the party is adopting policies that drive investment away, such as sepatration, capital punishment, a eugenics board. This is very important people, it is often a very small but vocal group at the grass roots level that get issues like this into a parties platform.
I hope we are all happy, a fair and peacful election is something we can all be proud of, but it shows great divisions in our province which may make it hard to govern. That will not be good for anyone. We need peace in the family for the next 4 years, God help us all. Thanks for voting, democracy still works.
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The fight will continue. The socialists are brainwashing our kids in school and look how far down the toilet bowl Edmonton is.
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What did those who were called to defend our country tell their families as they left them behind not knowing if they would even come home ?
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It has been almost 80 years since WW2, the virtue signaling nonsense that we have now, didn't exist, the priority then was keeping food on the table and a roof over your head. Honest, hard working people were appreciated, not scrutinized over everything they did. That is what those soldiers fought to protect, they would be so disappointed, if they saw what our society has become.
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The fight will continue. The socialists are brainwashing our kids in school and look how far down the toilet bowl Edmonton is.
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Let's not forget the voters in Calgary when it comes to socialism. 11 years of Nenshi, then Gonek who makes Sohi look like Preston Manning.
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It has been almost 80 years since WW2, the virtue signaling nonsense that we have now didn't exist, the priority then was keeping food on the table and a roof over your head. Honest, hard working people were appreciated, not scrutinized over everything they did.
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The woke culture has been around for well over a decade, there is no excuse for the people you mentioned to sit idle and watch the destruction of our society unfold. These people are the problem, plain and simple.
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The fight will continue. The socialists are brainwashing our kids in school and look how far down the toilet bowl Edmonton is.
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Well here in Canmore the dippers won against the incumbant UCP. And Jesus wept.
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The woke culture has been around for well over a decade, there is no excuse for the people you mentioned to sit idle and watch the destruction of our society unfold. These people are the problem, plain and simple.
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The people that are trying to force their woke views on society, are the real problem. I was able to resist the pressure from the woke in my career, only because my superiors supported me, other people in the same position, were simply told by their superiors to not make waves, so they either complied, or their careers suffered.
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Here lies the problem, many Canadians lost their lives providing generations a better Canada. Those who fear loosing their jobs should be ashamed and are part of the problem.
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Most are just trying to live their life, go to work, pay their bills and enjoy life
They are not interested in trying to say Alberta, Canada, or the world they just want to enjoy a simple life
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The woke culture has been around for well over a decade, there is no excuse for the people you mentioned to sit idle and watch the destruction of our society unfold. These people are the problem, plain and simple.
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Politics are the problem, always have been always will be. Political parties know that they will always have the support of their base voters, so the politicians continue to pander and capitulate to the vocal fringe minority for their support, hoping to get a leg up and win elections.
Unfortunately these fringe groups (both left and right) are also the citizens and ideals that the media continually focus on. It creates fear and divisiveness which in turn adds to the never ending negative narrative that media giants hope to spin in perpetuity. If they didn't keep reporting controversial stories, the media giants would cease to remain relevant. People in general love a bad news story and to pick their team, fortunately for them there has been no better time in history to find a form of "journalism" that aligns with their particular set of beliefs. If more people would step back from the tv/keyboard/smartphone and focus on actual dialogue with others, they'd likely find that most humans are pretty similar in regards to their wants/needs in life. However that's pretty unlikely to happen in today's egocentric world.
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