AB Election

[pdog15]

Is it safe to try to open a thread on this? Seeing that it is touted to be one of the more crucial AB elections, perspectives outside the realm of of the usual news sources, pundits may be useful, helpful.

[Armorman]

I'll sum up this election as follows. One choice leads to economic prosperity for Alberta and more autonomy from Ottawa. The other leads to less economic prosperity for Alberta, more Ottawa interference, and more economic meddling by quebec. Pretty cut and dry this time around.

[Penner]

[Dmay]

Originally Posted by Armorman

I'll sum up this election as follows. One choice leads to economic prosperity for Alberta and more autonomy from Ottawa. The other leads to less economic prosperity for Alberta, more Ottawa interference, and more economic meddling by quebec. Pretty cut and dry this time around.

Exactly right.

[nimrod]

well im sure, most cities, are 50%, and most rural are 100% of who they want

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Armorman

I'll sum up this election as follows. One choice leads to economic prosperity for Alberta and more autonomy from Ottawa. The other leads to less economic prosperity for Alberta, more Ottawa interference, and more economic meddling by quebec. Pretty cut and dry this time around.

Pretty much sums it up.
While crucial, it's also one of the more cut and dry elections.

And remember, if you "just can't bring yourself to vote for Danielle", stay home that day, have a few drinks, and keep telling yourself "it'll all be over soon".
We'll take care of the rest.

[-JR-]

I walked into the Physiotherapy last month to find out that we do not get 3 free visits anymore threw health care .....Thanks You Danielle smith ( United Conservatives )

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I walked into the Physiotherapy last month to find out that we do not get 3 free visits anymore threw health care .....Thanks You Danielle smith ( United Conservatives )

And what is the NDP going to give you? Also how are they planning to fund their plan?

Everything comes at a cost

Really need to look at every angle and remember nothing is really free with government

[Armorman]

I'd also like to add that if you're happy with the direction that Canada and the world is heading in then Rachel is your gal! She'll make sure you get the welfare state (free physiotherapy) that you're "entitled" to receive.

[zabbo]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I walked into the Physiotherapy last month to find out that we do not get 3 free visits anymore threw health care .....Thanks You Danielle smith ( United Conservatives )

Contrary to popular belief, health care is NOT free! In fact it takes up about half of the entire provincial budget. You may not pay directly out of pocket, but we all pay dearly for health care!! I lost all respect for Smith in 2014/2015. Not really impressed with some what she has come up with lately either. That said I will still vote UCP, not so much for Smith, but against Nutley!

[owlhoot]

I'm not liking the amount of orange signs I'm seeing plastered around the city, I can see 3 from my front door

[-JR-]

Originally Posted by zabbo

Contrary to popular belief, health care is NOT free! In fact it takes up about half of the entire provincial budget. You may not pay directly out of pocket, but we all pay dearly for health care!! I lost all respect for Smith in 2014/2015. Not really impressed with some what she has come up with lately either. That said I will still vote UCP, not so much for Smith, but against Nutley!

When we wake up the next morning after we vote , the only thing we know is who will be the next new millionaire !
Our taxes will go up as normal .
Fuel will go up at the pumps as normal .
That is a fact !
Like the old saying you can't get away from Death and Taxes .
If we can at least get some of our health care back that we had before the Conservatives came in .We will see something for our taxes .
Then Life will go on as normal.
Do not vote for who we had last .

If you really want to see more changes other than that , don't be looking for anyone you voted for . Get off your ass and go work over time .

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by -JR-

When we wake up the next morning after we vote , the only thing we know is who will be the next new millionaire !
Our taxes will go up as normal .
Fuel will go up at the pumps as normal .
That is a fact !
Like the old saying you can't get away from Death and Taxes .
If we can at least get some of our health care back that we had before the Conservatives came in .We will see something for our taxes .
Then Life will go on as normal.
Do not vote for who we had last .

If you really want to see more changes other than that , don't be looking for anyone you voted for . Get off your ass and go work over time .

Level of taxation clearly varies according to who is in power and the level of investment into a province also varies too

Experienced enough of the NDP policies to know they are not for my personal lifestyle and can also tell you for a fact they did not improve BCs healthcare system past or present.

The issues with healthcare are across the whole country regardless of provincial party. The system needs to change as it’s no longer viable for the population.

But vote how ever you feel is right for you but let’s be honest regardless if it’s NDP or UCP we will be met with disappointment

[huntinstuff]

People are easily bought

One of these politicians will make an offer and that will be it.

[Moe]

Nahhhhhh, it doesn't really matter who wins. If it doesn't work out, in a few years vote them out. People get so worked up over this stuff. The running of the Province is behind the throne and they will make sure stuff runs ok. In the morning, you wake up and have your coffee. The garbage still gets picked up, kids still go to school, etc., etc.

It is not life and death. I remember speaking to an immigrant who LOVES Canada compared to where he came from. He says the rest of us, who have never lived elsewhere, are bored and just make up stuff to complain about. People die in his country and they have nothing. He is right. This is a damned good place to live when you simply take a 360 view of the World. We are going to be ok.

[no-regard]

I'm hearing a lot of indecision from people this year, makes me nervous because it's such a no-brainer for me.

My neighbor (mid 20's, 2 small kids) had an NDP sign on his lawn for a couple days last week, then it was suddenly gone. The next day his parents came into town for a visit, they are from Saskatchewan where he grew up...I can't help but wonder if he is hiding it from them?! I'm pretty sure he (my neighbor) voted Conservative last time. Interested to see if it returns when they leave in a few days.

[leo]

There is no such thing as free! Everything has a cost to the taxpayer. If you want more paid for healthcare, education or whatever, be prepared to be told how to live, where to live and what job you can do. Control is control. Give them useless bastards an inch, they take a mile. As usual, vote for who will screw things up the least. IMO that is UCP.

[zabbo]

Originally Posted by -JR-

When we wake up the next morning after we vote , the only thing we know is who will be the next new millionaire !
Our taxes will go up as normal .
Fuel will go up at the pumps as normal .
That is a fact !
Like the old saying you can't get away from Death and Taxes .
If we can at least get some of our health care back that we had before the Conservatives came in .We will see something for our taxes .
Then Life will go on as normal.
Do not vote for who we had last .

If you really want to see more changes other than that , don't be looking for anyone you voted for . Get off your ass and go work over time .

As I said I'm not impressed with smith. Nutley will immediately jump in bed with the turd and that other guy! Doesn't bode well for carbon taxes or the oil business in Alberta! As for health care, we have some of the most expensive and least efficient on the planet! Changes need to be made. I have retired, but when I was working I put in plenty of overtime! At this point in my life I'm fairly comfortable for that reason. I have said before, glad I'm on the way out, because there are some very ominous clouds on the economic horizon. Younger people are in for a rough ride!

[roper1]

Truly amazed that voters think the NDP offers anything!! Certainly Prentice et al, needed a reset. The Conservatives were in power so long they weren't listening. I'm also amazed at Danielle's ability to insert both feet past her molars. WTH? Anyhow, a UCP majority by one seat will probably give us the best governance possible.

[raab]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I walked into the Physiotherapy last month to find out that we do not get 3 free visits anymore threw health care .....Thanks You Danielle smith ( United Conservatives )

I went into a walk in clinic to see the doctor a couples months ago, and was turned away because it was full. So I went to another one did the same, and it was full. Had to go to 3 walk in clinics to see a doctor. Oh did I mention my family doctor was a month long wait to get in?

Never mind the fact that when I finally saw a doctor, I never got a proper assessment. Just a few quick questions and I was on my way.

We have a health system in Canada, not healthcare. This really ****es me off as someone who used to work in healthcare and has seen the decline. I’m seriously considering paying to go see a physician in the US for a proper health assessment that’s how bad it’s gotten in Canada.

But that’s all besides the point because neither the UCP or NDP want to change the system. Both parties want people to suffer on long waiting lists to protect Canada’s “Golden Calf” socialized government medicine. A system where we all suffer equally and no one can access high quality healthcare.

Any politician who was willing to bring in the Swiss style healthcare would instantly have my vote.

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I walked into the Physiotherapy last month to find out that we do not get 3 free visits anymore threw health care .....Thanks You Danielle smith ( United Conservatives )

Lol.

[raab]

Originally Posted by -JR-

When we wake up the next morning after we vote , the only thing we know is who will be the next new millionaire !
Our taxes will go up as normal .
Fuel will go up at the pumps as normal .
That is a fact !
Like the old saying you can't get away from Death and Taxes .
If we can at least get some of our health care back that we had before the Conservatives came in .We will see something for our taxes .
Then Life will go on as normal.
Do not vote for who we had last .

If you really want to see more changes other than that , don't be looking for anyone you voted for . Get off your ass and go work over time .

Or you know, you could fight to make government accountable to you and I the taxpayer. Things like reducing taxes, reducing regulations, forcing the government to have a referendum before any new taxes, a debt cap that can only be raised through referendum, etc…

Voting for a party that wants everything centralized and controlled is how you get corruption and higher taxes. Eventually in those systems you become a slave to the state. Where they provide your housing, your food, and your healthcare, but if you don’t show up to work you’re not fired, you’re shot.

Everyone thinks that Africa is poor because of European imperialism. At least that’s what we’re taught in schools. If you look though, the majority of Africa has embraced socialist/communist governments since the 1950’s, and as a result we see the corruption and poverty spread throughout Africa. Although one country has avoided socialism, and decided to go another way. Botswana embraced capitalism and free market policy and since 1966 has had the fastest growing economy in the world.

The simple fact is we have forgotten what gave us a high quality of life for so long, free markets and the idea that we can look after ourselves better than government can.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by raab

I went into a walk in clinic to see the doctor a couples months ago, and was turned away because it was full. So I went to another one did the same, and it was full. Had to go to 3 walk in clinics to see a doctor. Oh did I mention my family doctor was a month long wait to get in?

Never mind the fact that when I finally saw a doctor, I never got a proper assessment. Just a few quick questions and I was on my way.

We have a health system in Canada, not healthcare. This really ****es me off as someone who used to work in healthcare and has seen the decline. I’m seriously considering paying to go see a physician in the US for a proper health assessment that’s how bad it’s gotten in Canada.

But that’s all besides the point because neither the UCP or NDP want to change the system. Both parties want people to suffer on long waiting lists to protect Canada’s “Golden Calf” socialized government medicine. A system where we all suffer equally and no one can access high quality healthcare.

Any politician who was willing to bring in the Swiss style healthcare would instantly have my vote.

Socialists, "well this time it will turn out different".

[The Cook]

Originally Posted by owlhoot

I'm not liking the amount of orange signs I'm seeing plastered around the city, I can see 3 from my front door

I'm surrounded by a sea of orange signs on my street so I ordered 2 signs as I live on a corner, but only one was delivered so I e-mailed my MLA for another and she delivered it herself along with a 4x6 foot one that I hung on my fence for all the dippers to enjoy for the month of May.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

The UCP will win.

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by I’d rather be outdoors

The UCP will win.

I sure hope you’re right.

[Moe]

I can't stomach voting for Dum Dum Danni...she's a liar and talks out both sides of her mouth. She can't be trusted. And I can't vote NDP. I'm gonna sit this one out. First time I haven't voted. But Smitty doesn't deserve my vote just because she is a supposed Conservative.

NOW! If Travis Toews was the guy. That's someone you can ride the river with. I would proudly have voted for him. But he left......and that too makes me question why he can't stand behind her. That tells me a lot.

[cowmanbob]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I walked into the Physiotherapy last month to find out that we do not get 3 free visits anymore threw health care .....Thanks You Danielle smith ( United Conservatives )

And I made an appointment last month with a physiotherapist, got fixed up and paid my bill and left happy.

[raab]

Originally Posted by Moe

I can't stomach voting for Dum Dum Danni...she's a liar and talks out both sides of her mouth. She can't be trusted. And I can't vote NDP. I'm gonna sit this one out. First time I haven't voted. But Smitty doesn't deserve my vote just because she is a supposed Conservative.

NOW! If Travis Toews was the guy. That's someone you can ride the river with. I would proudly have voted for him. But he left......and that too makes me question why he can't stand behind her. That tells me a lot.

You should vote for the local candidate who best supports your beliefs and values. The debate between leaders is fine, but in theory you’re voting for the person who will best represent your riding. Undoubtedly in Alberta that person will be either a UCP or Independent.

Anyone voting NDP is shooting themselves in the foot including government workers. Those workers may want to look up “Rae Days” in Ontario.

[no-regard]

Originally Posted by Moe

I can't stomach voting for Dum Dum Danni...she's a liar and talks out both sides of her mouth. She can't be trusted. And I can't vote NDP. I'm gonna sit this one out. First time I haven't voted. But Smitty doesn't deserve my vote just because she is a supposed Conservative.

NOW! If Travis Toews was the guy. That's someone you can ride the river with. I would proudly have voted for him. But he left......and that too makes me question why he can't stand behind her. That tells me a lot.

Looks like you're from Edmonton where the Conservatives need the most help. A non-vote is the same as a vote for the NDP.

I get that you may not like it, but really?