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Old 05-12-2023, 02:21 PM
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Unlicensed criminal or law-abiding hunter? Liberal MP can't tell the difference

Pam Damoff just compared every hunter in #Canada to the Danforth shooter (unlicensed criminal with an illegal handgun). Every single hunter and rural Canadian out there, take note of exactly what she really thinks about you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRKr8i3pnfU
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Old 05-12-2023, 02:30 PM
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Unlicensed criminal or law-abiding hunter? Liberal MP can't tell the difference

Pam Damoff just compared every hunter in #Canada to the Danforth shooter (unlicensed criminal with an illegal handgun). Every single hunter and rural Canadian out there, take note of exactly what she really thinks about you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRKr8i3pnfU
Are you surprised after all the bs the Turd and his ilk are spewing? There are people out there gullible enough to believe it and the msm aren't doing law abiding firearms any favours either. We are a minority.
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Old 05-12-2023, 06:26 PM
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Speaking of revolving doors...

Flin Flon RCMP investigating attempted murder

On May 7, he was charged with Attempted Murder and a number of firearms-related offences.

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2...tempted-murder

Flin Flon RCMP make arrest in armed robbery, continue to look for other suspect

On February 11, 2021, at approximately 5:55 pm, Flin Flon RCMP received a report of an armed robbery at the Manitoba Liquor Mart store on Hapnot Street in Flin Flon, Manitoba.

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2...e-look-suspect

Police charge 2 with attempted murder in Flin Flon shooting

RCMP said two men, both aged 24, have been charged in connection with a shooting in Flin Flon, Man., on Jan. 17.

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/police-c...ting-1.4777009

This government's soft on crime, cater to the criminal stance is having rather serious consequences country wide.

Enough I say!!
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Old 05-12-2023, 10:56 PM
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Say goodbye to IPSC Canada once C21 goes thru, one Liberal abstained from voting on the amendment put up by Alistair MacGregor to save it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGKXyMJxaUU

The arguments against the Red Flag laws;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g04IOclvzM8
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Old 05-13-2023, 01:09 AM
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Dane Lloyd on bans down the road, Damoff in deny, deny, deny mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4dlVfRvxk
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:57 PM
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Remember Mendicino's LIE that there were "going to take the time to get this right"??

Well, they didn't.

In fact, instead, they rammed the handgun bill through without debate, contrary to parliamentary procedural rules, with nearly identical "amendments" targeting long guns to those they were earlier forced to abandon.

Shameful at best!

The Liberals are right back to banning guns again

Gun owners won't have their hunting rifles seized this time ... sort of

Only three months after retreating from a sweeping gun ban that received blanket condemnation from outfitters and Indigenous groups, the Liberals are back with another plan to criminalize vast categories of Canadian long guns.

Bill C-21 was first introduced in May 2022 in order to codify an existing Liberal promise to ban the sale or transfer of handguns.

But then, in November the Liberals slipped in an 11th hour package of amendments that dramatically expanded the scope of the bill to include whole categories of Canadian long guns.

The definitions were so broad that they even included large numbers of low-caliber, single-shot rifles that were the virtual opposite of the “assault-style” rifles that Liberal proponents claimed the bill would criminalize.

Only after weeks of widespread opposition that included NDP and Liberal MPs in rural ridings — as well as de facto promises by Prairie provinces that they would refuse to enforce the new law — did the Liberals abruptly withdraw them in early February.

One of the most contentious aspects of the withdrawn amendments was that they would have instantly criminalized several thousand makes and models of long guns currently in active use by hunters and outfitters.

Throughout, the Liberal government consistently denied mounting evidence that the amendments would criminalize a wide swathe of Canadian hunting arms with little to no links to criminal activity. In multiple public statements, Liberal MPs claimed that the amendments were “not targeting hunting rifles” and “were not targeting law-abiding gun owners” — both of which were easily debunked by even a cursory reading of the amendment text.

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Old 05-14-2023, 03:19 PM
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Make No Mistake: The Liberals Still Plan to Ban Hunting Rifles and Shotguns

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Old 05-16-2023, 06:27 PM
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Doctors group managed to get an article published in Time, this thread is something of an analysis of what they got wrong, and what they use to mislead folks who don't know better;

https://twitter.com/Dicky_Paul_95/st...223495684?s=20
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Old 05-17-2023, 02:11 PM
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Bill-21: Lose Your Guns If "Suspected" Of Domestic Violence

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Old 05-18-2023, 04:44 PM
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MP Morrison stands up for law-abiding gun owners

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Old 05-19-2023, 01:31 PM
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Now that C21 ha been railroaded thru the SECU and third readingin the HOC, it is off to the Senate. That is out last chance to get anything fixed on this bill, the Senate does actually have the power to kill it. All a person can do now is write and call senators and hope.

Find the Senators who represent your province or territory here:

https://sencanada.ca/en/senators/



To make it easier for you to write your Senators, we created four template letters (below) that you can download and modify to suit your personal writing style.



We recommend you revise these templates into your own words, as the impact of your letter is greatly enhanced when personalized.



A handwritten letter to your Senator/s will carry even more weight.



Download Senate Template Letters Here:



https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/C...-Letter-1.docx (firearm prohibition orders)
https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/C...-Letter-2.docx (focus on criminals, not PAL holders)
https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/C...-Letter-3.docx (the end of sport shooting in Canada)
https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/C...-Letter-4.docx (AB CFO Recommendations)


Also send a copy of your letter(s) to Senator Don Plett, Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, at:



The Hon. Donald Plett, Senator

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This is our last chance to make positive changes to Bill C-21 or to prevent it from becoming law at all.



But we must act today.
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Old 05-19-2023, 02:19 PM
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As predicted - rammed through contrary to parliamentary procedures...

Liberal gun control legislation passes House of Commons


The federal Liberal government's gun control legislation Bill C-21 passed the House of Commons on Thursday.

While the majority of MPs voted to see the bill pass into the Senate, two Liberal MPs who represent northern ridings sided with the Conservatives in voting against the legislation.

The bill, which passed nearly a year after it was first introduced, had an acrimonious journey through the House, and was significantly expanded from what was initially tabled in May 2022.

Defending moving to stitch in other firearm policies into Bill C-21, Mendicino has said the Liberals were committed to go further “than any government in the history of this country,” when it comes to gun control.

Bill C-21 is now off to the Senate for a second round of scrutiny. It remains to be seen whether senators are inclined to expedite their study or extend that work into the fall, with just four weeks left in the spring sitting.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/libe...mons-1.6404572
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Old 05-19-2023, 04:28 PM
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Blaine Calkins: Introducing an amendment to #billc21

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Old 05-19-2023, 04:48 PM
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Two million licensed gun owners are required to report their addresses to police but NOT the more than 443,000 convicted criminals prohibited from owning firearms by the courts!

https://dennisryoung.ca/wp-content/u...t-1-2019-4.pdf
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Old 05-19-2023, 04:54 PM
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C-21 Fails to Protect Canadians

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Old 05-19-2023, 05:16 PM
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The Bail Reform Bill Is A Lie -- A Lawyer Explains Bill C-48

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Old 05-20-2023, 03:02 PM
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It's opinion. From a fellow who worked in the firearms industry for over 50 years. I do believe that he offers very similar views to those of my own...

Career criminals commit most gun crime

Given the fact that over 90 per cent of gun crime is committed by career criminals, most with gang affiliations and who are most likely out on bail, while using illegally obtained firearms, we are all at a loss as to how stealing and prohibiting our legally purchased property that has never been involved in crime will make our streets safer.


https://www.mountainviewtoday.ca/opi...-crime-6941139
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Old 05-21-2023, 01:34 PM
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It has been confirmed that the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee (CFAC) will be selected shortly to finalize their selection of firearms to be prohibited. The committee's decision is anticipated to be made before the end of summer and will be put into effect through an Order in Council.

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Old 05-21-2023, 03:49 PM
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It has been confirmed that the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee (CFAC) will be selected shortly to finalize their selection of firearms to be prohibited. The committee's decision is anticipated to be made before the end of summer and will be put into effect through an Order in Council.



So I see in that post that the CSSA logo in upper left corner, does

that indicate that they are or will be involved with this new attempt to cause

more grief ?
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It has been confirmed that the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee (CFAC) will be selected shortly to finalize their selection of firearms to be prohibited. The committee's decision is anticipated to be made before the end of summer and will be put into effect through an Order in Council.

The liberals and ndp will keep adding firearms to the list, until they get them all. And every liberal/ndp vote supports this procedure.
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Old 05-22-2023, 12:59 PM
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Provinces Versus The Federal Government on Gun Bans

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Old 05-27-2023, 12:15 PM
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This didn't age well for Justin Trudeau:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSy48CC_UM

Trudeau wants to take away your hunting rifle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNtEBy-umxc
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Old 05-28-2023, 07:51 AM
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Calibre mag video, I see the value of the idea behind his line of thought here on the connection between the vote in the house to railroad C21 and the Johnston report on election interference, Libs are scared of a CPC call for a non-confidence vote that the NDP & Bloc would have to back. Wait & see what happens I guess, this week may get interesting.

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Calibre mag video, I see the value of the idea behind his line of thought here on the connection between the vote in the house to railroad C21 and the Johnston report on election interference, Libs are scared of a CPC call for a non-confidence vote that the NDP & Bloc would have to back. Wait & see what happens I guess, this week may get interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0euJs9fVwJQ
Except the ndp will not back a non confidence vote, Singh would sell out his own family to retain his influence. The only party that isn't trying to take all of our firearms is the Conservative party. That is why it makes so little sense for any firearms owner to vote ndp either federally or provincially.
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Calibre mag video, I see the value of the idea behind his line of thought here on the connection between the vote in the house to railroad C21 and the Johnston report on election interference, Libs are scared of a CPC call for a non-confidence vote that the NDP & Bloc would have to back. Wait & see what happens I guess, this week may get interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0euJs9fVwJQ
Personally I don't believe that Singh will vote non-confidence until he's qualified for his MP pension. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm certain we have 2 more years of Trudeau.
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Old 05-28-2023, 09:35 AM
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Except the ndp will not back a non confidence vote, Singh would sell out his own family to retain his influence. The only party that isn't trying to take all of our firearms is the Conservative party. That is why it makes so little sense for any firearms owner to vote ndp either federally or provincially.
Agree 100% People have short memories. I can't believe, especially in Alberta that people would vote NDP.
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Except the ndp will not back a non confidence vote, Singh would sell out his own family to retain his influence. The only party that isn't trying to take all of our firearms is the Conservative party. That is why it makes so little sense for any firearms owner to vote ndp either federally or provincially.
IF enough MPs dropped out, died of a disease, ended up in a coma or had some other reason that they couldn't attend, what would stop a non confidence vote? Wouldn't even missing their plane to Ottawa make them miss a vote? I don't recall that they can proxy vote?
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Old 05-29-2023, 06:42 AM
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What it takes, is a campaign like the one that got the Libs to withdraw the amendments, to get the NDP quaking in their boots again. Tell them we'll donate against them in their ridings outside of AB as well, call them out on supporting the Libs and their phony committees and inquiries and lies. Situation is ours to lose, by not trying.
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Agree 100% People have short memories. I can't believe, especially in Alberta that people would vote NDP.
I have a hard time wrapping my head around that too. But, think of this. Edmonton has a large part of the population employed by government. Last time notley was in she increased those provincial numbers by a large amount (I think in the realm of 60,000 but too lazy to look it up to confirm). Those, and other govt workers are going to vote for those that want large bureaucracies like the ndp - job security. What Calgary's excuse is I don't know - a large group of city dwellers not connected to the rural part of the province and more likely unionized?
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I have a hard time wrapping my head around that too. But, think of this. Edmonton has a large part of the population employed by government. Last time notley was in she increased those provincial numbers by a large amount (I think in the realm of 60,000 but too lazy to look it up to confirm). Those, and other govt workers are going to vote for those that want large bureaucracies like the ndp - job security. What Calgary's excuse is I don't know - a large group of city dwellers not connected to the rural part of the province and more likely unionized?

The whole gun control thing revolves around political correctness. The left wing governments know they can't stop gun crimes, so all their Rhetoric revolves around all the great things they are going to do to stop gun crimes. The Whole Rhetoric is for OPTIKS! This makes the ignorant feel that the government is looking out for them, and is doing something. My 2 cents!
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