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Old 02-02-2019, 04:03 PM
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Default Vertical alignment of Rifle and Scope?

With out hijacking my previous thread.
Ok, so I think that I have enough info to mount the scope. There is a confusing part of aligning the the vertical hold of the cross hairs with the vertical hold of the rifle. All the tools I see like wheeler level-level-level are all basing the vertical hold of the rifle off attached bases which may not be correct. How does one find the vertical centre of the rifle if the receiver is rounded?
Is this accuracy as critical or more then as having scope properly aligned.
Are dovetail levels accurate?
Thanks again I want to do this right and do it once.
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Old 02-02-2019, 04:10 PM
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I use the wheeler levels.

One on the base, one on top of the turret with the cap removed.
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Old 02-02-2019, 04:33 PM
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"I use the wheeler levels.

One on the base, one on top of the turret with the cap removed."


I used to use Wheeler levels till I checked them.... They aren't level!
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:46 PM
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If theres no flat spots on the top, look for a flat spot somewhere on the bottom. (Magazine well?) You can create a skinny rest out of a piece of wood the right size, confirm your support is level, then you can rest your rifle on it and know its upright.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:58 PM
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This company's Reticle-Tru is some of the best money I've spent on scope mounting tools.

https://parabola-llc.com
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:27 PM
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I use the Wheeler Levels as well. Another good tool to have is a Borescope with a grid, like the the Bushnell Borescope Pro model. With it, once everything is level and aligned, you can adjust your cross-hairs to the bore verticle and horizontal as well, not to mention that it will usually get your first shot POI on paper. .
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:46 PM
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This company's Reticle-Tru is some of the best money I've spent on scope mounting tools.

https://parabola-llc.com
Great idea but will not ship to Kanackastan...so sad, brilliant idea though
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:42 AM
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This company's Reticle-Tru is some of the best money I've spent on scope mounting tools.

https://parabola-llc.com
I actually have one surplus to my needs..... BNIB....if anybody interested.
Accidentally bought two back in the day.....
And I agree, works good...
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:33 AM
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As it was told to me by someone who “shot for a living”....Make sure you put a plumb line on your target. It must be plumb as well. Scope, rifle and target must all be plumb. “They” checked alignment at 25 yds. by elevation all the way up, fire a shot; elevation all the way down, fire a shot. There should be two hole on a vertical (plumb) line on your target. If not, your shot will cantor at longer ranges.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:39 AM
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How true is this?

90 degree cant

What option is correct. 1 or 2 or neither?



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Old 02-04-2019, 08:03 AM
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I believe of the scope is not mounted directly verticle of the bore. There will be windage error in amounts that are not actually noticeable?

If the rifle is canted so that the scope is 1/16" offset to the right of the bore with a 200 yard zero (the scope is level with the induced cant)

Will the rifle shoot 1/16" to the left ar 400. At 600 it will be 1/8". 1/4" at 1000 yards. Will you notice that?





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