The Liberals are coming, the Liberals are coming.....

[JustMe]

Wonder what a Liberal government is going to bode for Alberta? If it's a minority will they form a coalition with the NDP? Might be an interesting four years..... A provincial NDP government is one thing, a Lib/NDP government in Ottawa is going to be something else IMO.


http://www.edmontonjournal.com/polls...728/story.html

[airbornedeerhunter]

Won't happen, Harper will prorogue parliament if they tried and we'd be back to the polls in the new year. Now, the libturds may actually form a government on their own and that is scary.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by airbornedeerhunter

Won't happen, Harper will prorogue parliament if they tried and we'd be back to the polls in the new year. Now, the libturds may actually form a government on their own and that is scary.

Not if the Liberals win as forecasted. Steve will just have to sit and watch Justin and Tom. Steve will no longer be PM, even if the other parties have a minority... Interesting times indeed

[gbart]

Might be wrong, but I don't put much faith in recent polls. Look at these ^^:
5000 by phone? the other is 2100 on line?

Who were they polling and where?

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by gbart

Might be wrong, but I don't put much faith in recent polls. Look at these ^^:

5000 by phone? the other is 2100 on line?



Who were they polling and where?

Hopefully you're right, but with the NDP loosing seats in Quebec and the Lib's picking up those seats, let's just say I'm concerned.

[Gray Wolf]

With the NDP running Alberta, and if the Libs take Ottawa, Canada will enter into a new Dark Age

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst

[Smokey]

The polls will tighten. Typically Con voters when polled don't give up their preferences, and they generally get the vote out better. People over the age of 35 have a better track record for voting and are more Conservative.

Monday will be close I believe. I predict a Lib minority with the smallest of margins. Maybe 5 votes.

[79ford]

My guess is albertas fate will be more tied to oil and gas prices

We ve had a boom under the cons and the liberals and had a few busts under both.

Whos in power doesnt matter when a commodity price swings 60%

[rugatika]

I think the 2011 polling typically underestimated Cons by around 3% and overestimated the Libs by about 1 or 2%. IF that holds for this election, it will be a VERY close call...right down to the wire.

Just going by the polls though, it's looking mighty grim.

Who's in power always matters.

[79ford]

Originally Posted by rugatika

I think the 2011 polling typically underestimated Cons by around 3% and overestimated the Libs by about 1 or 2%. IF that holds for this election, it will be a VERY close call...right down to the wire.

Just going by the polls though, it's looking mighty grim.

Who's in power always matters.

Iraq sets new oil production records every month... who knows who will be in power over there? Oil fields get bombed or captured by isis? Nationalized to pay for war?

Bottom line is the oil is economical and the companies are making money. Money matters, not politics.

High services costs in alberta kill off economics here, the royalties are dirt cheap so it definitely isnt the government hindering developement these days.... oil is just too expensive to get out of the ground with the high cost of services required to get the oil moving.

[bat119]

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[Sooner]

Polls have been way off in Ab politics a few times, hoping they are now but am thinking monday will be a tight one.

bat119 you are correct but this time we could have PM Mulcair

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by 79ford

Iraq sets new oil production records every month... who knows who will be in power over there? Oil fields get bombed or captured by isis? Nationalized to pay for war?

Bottom line is the oil is economical and the companies are making money. Money matters, not politics.

High services costs in alberta kill off economics here, the royalties are dirt cheap so it definitely isnt the government hindering developement these days.... oil is just too expensive to get out of the ground with the high cost of services required to get the oil moving.

I think we get it. You read Oilweek.

Like I said. Politics always matters. PET mattered, Mulroney mattered, Harper, King, even Campbell...they all left their mark on Canada for better or worse, irrespective of oil prices. Politics matters. Heck, there's probably even some people that would pick Trudeau over Stalin if they could go back in time. Maybe.

[jethunter]

Originally Posted by 79ford

Iraq sets new oil production records every month... who knows who will be in power over there? Oil fields get bombed or captured by isis? Nationalized to pay for war?

Bottom line is the oil is economical and the companies are making money. Money matters, not politics.

High services costs in alberta kill off economics here, the royalties are dirt cheap so it definitely isnt the government hindering developement these days.... oil is just too expensive to get out of the ground with the high cost of services required to get the oil moving.

Duh.

[79ford]

Originally Posted by rugatika

I think we get it. You read Oilweek.

Like I said. Politics always matters. PET mattered, Mulroney mattered, Harper, King, even Campbell...they all left their mark on Canada for better or worse, irrespective of oil prices. Politics matters. Heck, there's probably even some people that would pick Trudeau over Stalin if they could go back in time. Maybe.

Yet you always whine like politicians ruined the oil patches fortunes

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by 79ford

Yet you always whine like politicians ruined the oil patches fortunes

Well son, there's some things you can change and some things you can't. Alberta isn't going to control oil prices much, but we do control who runs this province. And if you think for one second the NDP haven't had any negative affect on investment in this province already, you aren't paying as much attention as you like to tell everyone.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by rugatika

I think we get it. You read Oilweek.

Like I said. Politics always matters. PET mattered, Mulroney mattered, Harper, King, even Campbell...they all left their mark on Canada for better or worse, irrespective of oil prices. Politics matters. Heck, there's probably even some people that would pick Trudeau over Stalin if they could go back in time. Maybe.

Reads it religiously and quotes it often.Plant operators typically have a lot of free time
Individuals who haven't been in Alberta long don't understand the effects of the federal government on the oilpatch. I'm thinking wasn't around for the NEP

[happy honker]

Originally Posted by Sooner

Polls have been way off in Ab politics a few times, hoping they are now but am thinking monday will be a tight one.

bat119 you are correct but this time we could have PM Mulcair

Look around...Alberta is not full of the same people it once was. Look at last provincial election. It's a myth of the past that were a right leaning province.

Start stuffing your mattresses boys.

[russ]

worst case, I would rather have Trudeau than angry Tom.

Either get's in, the dollar takes a dive.

[russ]

Originally Posted by happy honker

Look around...Alberta is not full of the same people it once was. Look at last provincial election. It's a myth of the past that were a right leaning province.

Start stuffing your mattresses boys.

I can guarantee you if Rachel doesn't cure us of this leftist cancer - a new NDP government in Ottawa will.

[From The Hip]

I wonder in Mr.Harper will stack the Senate and fill all of those vacancies.He can of course do it as he is still PM until the new government is recognized by the Governor General and sworn in.

Cant pass any stupid legistlation if it cant get through the Senate.

FTH

[jethunter]

Originally Posted by happy honker

Look around...Alberta is not full of the same people it once was. Look at last provincial election. It's a myth of the past that were a right leaning province.

Start stuffing your mattresses boys.

That's not all together correct.

Over 60% of Albertans voted for the conservatives and wildrose parties, and for many of the people who DID vote NDP, it was simply a protest vote.

The other thing is - I can't find anyone who will admit they voted NDP. Obviously somebody did maybe they are too ashamed to admit it. I guess they know they screwed up.

I think an NDP or Liberal government will be a good thing. We've had it too good for too long and the younger generations are a bit soft and complacent. Having the liberals or dippers kill jobs and destroy the economy would be educational for some people. Actually living in the socialist utopia is never as wonderful as they tell us it would be, LOL.

Every generation needs to relearn the lesson about socialism and socialists. It always sounds good but it never ends well.

[russ]

I'd like to agree with you but the left has always been good at cultivating the culture of entitlement.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by russ

I'd like to agree with you but the left has always been good at cultivating the culture of entitlement.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blo...-did-it-happen

[the.tru.albertan]

So who is all saying goodbye to the money in their wallets and guns in their cabinets tomorrow night?

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by the.tru.albertan

So who is all saying goodbye to the money in their wallets and guns in their cabinets tomorrow night?

Oh, I don't think the long guns are going anywhere soon. That is just scare tactics perpetuated by a few, I believe.

But I agree, I don't think we can't afford the Liberal/NDP government it looks like we may get. Folks should be voting on what we can afford and maybe not ideals? I suppose like the old saying, we get what we deserve?

[Trakker282]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Well son, there's some things you can change and some things you can't. Alberta isn't going to control oil prices much, but we do control who runs this province. And if you think for one second the NDP haven't had any negative affect on investment in this province already, you aren't paying as much attention as you like to tell everyone.

You're right, I can't find work thanks to those retards. Was one of a whole store let go a day after I started because of NDP paranoia. Only after I saw why did I get nervous. Many small businesses are facing higher taxes under Nazi Notley and in the case of where I was they weren't going to be able to cope with that and the BS wage increase. No effing way a kid fresh from high school deserves $15/hr.

[Trakker282]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Oh, I don't think the long guns are going anywhere soon. That is just scare tactics perpetuated by a few, I believe.

But I agree, I don't think we can't afford the Liberal/NDP government it looks like we may get. Folks should be voting on what we can afford and maybe not ideals? I suppose like the old saying, we get what we deserve?

Trudeau's planning on signing the UN arms treaty, most of it is identical to the LGR and he has also stated in several CBC interviews earlier this year (in French) that he plans on restructuring the current system and reclassifying many firearms as restricted or prohibited. The UN treaty alone will give him the ability to overturn the LGR kill bill and force everyone to lose things.

Mulcair on the other hand wants something similar to Australia or England with a mass firearms ban and people forced to hand over anything they have. He also wants the UN treaty signed but with a stricter enforcement.

Harper on the other hand wants to leave things be, hell, he even took the classification abilities from the gestapo RCMP running things. If you think because he has screwed up a few times in the past think again, can we all afford the f$%#up that the Liberals or NDP will do to Canada? I sure as hell can't.

On another note, if you want proof how bad it is if that UN treaty is signed just look south. Odumma in all his glory signed it and is trying to enforce it, that's part of why we haven't seen much coming from the south.

God help us tomorrow, I don't want history to repeat itself.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Trakker282

Trudeau's planning on signing the UN arms treaty, most of it is identical to the LGR and he has also stated in several CBC interviews earlier this year (in French) that he plans on restructuring the current system and reclassifying many firearms as restricted or prohibited. The UN treaty alone will give him the ability to overturn the LGR kill bill and force everyone to lose things.



Mulcair on the other hand wants something similar to Australia or England with a mass firearms ban and people forced to hand over anything they have. He also wants the UN treaty signed but with a stricter enforcement.



Harper on the other hand wants to leave things be, hell, he even took the classification abilities from the gestapo RCMP running things. If you think because he has screwed up a few times in the past think again, can we all afford the f$%#up that the Liberals or NDP will do to Canada? I sure as hell can't.



On another note, if you want proof how bad it is if that UN treaty is signed just look south. Odumma in all his glory signed it and is trying to enforce it, that's part of why we haven't seen much coming from the south.



God help us tomorrow, I don't want history to repeat itself.

I may get crucified on here, but really the only thing I have against a long gun registry is the cost to the public and a bit of inconvenience to the users. I in other words, I could live with it. Handguns and other restricted, I don't know what the future will bring with either the Libs or NDP. I know a lot use them at ranges and the like and I have no problem with that either.

Am I worried? You're darn tootin'! I don't think people realize the cost of the next Lib or NDP government, but I'm afraid they're going to find out!

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by JustMe

I may get crucified on here, but really the only thing I have against a long gun registry is the cost to the public and a bit of inconvenience to the users. I in other words, I could live with it. Handguns and other restricted, I don't know what the future will bring with either the Libs or NDP. I know a lot use them at ranges and the like and I have no problem with that either.

Am I worried? You're darn tootin'! I don't think people realize the cost of the next Lib or NDP government, but I'm afraid they're going to find out!

The thing I have against a long gun registry is what end does it serve? It doesn't solve any crimes, or prevent them. It's completely useless as was demonstrated last go around here in Canada. So you have to ask yourself, what's the big push to know what guns everyone has? There's only one reason, and that's for confiscation. Whether it's semi-auto shotguns, mini-14's etc. It's a shopping list for the gov to check off as they ban different types of guns.