... for the "zero information" crowd planning on tossing a vote to Trudeau ...

[TBD]

Trudeau Senior (PET) led Canada from '68 to '84 and during his time ...




The economic situation in our country worsened steadily:


1) Canada's accumulated national deficit went from a mere $20 billion to $195 billion ...

2) our annual budget deficit went from 1% of GDP to 8.3%

3) unemployment rate more than doubled from 4 1/2 % to 11.2 %

4) total annual fed spending went from $13 billion to 110 billion by '84

5) in '68 an American dollar cost $1.07 Canadian, by the end of his term importers paid $1.30


Is this the type of change Justin's been spouting off about ?


... and which parts of the country / people do you think stand to benefit most from all the additional spending justin is planning to do ?



TBD



PS ... just think about it

[rem338win]

And Pete was a far smarter man than his son.

This is a dead horse though, the line was drawn a long time ago and the actual facts mean little to many on both sides.

[bessiedog]

Geeze

Sins of the father... That's why not to vote for him?

Try actually digging into exactly WHO the Justin Trudeau brain trust is.

There's plenty plenty plenty of stinky there.

Very stinky.

WAy worse than sponsorship scandal stinky....

I wont be voting Liberal

[Redfrog]

Yeah but did he interfere with a strike anywhere? I'm not talking about the 'War Measures Act" I mean did he order essential services to go back to work.

That would be the deciding thing for me. Not guns, economy, climate,taxes, health care, none of that stuff is as important as what Steve did to destroy the right for health care workers to go on strike.

[Smokey]

Cons say don't vote cause of the sins of the father, then say he is his mothers son. Which is it?

Frankly I would not even recognize Pierre was his father. He got his charisma from his father without any of the foundation.

Different times, different people, just the same name.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Yeah but did he interfere with a strike anywhere? I'm not talking about the 'War Measures Act" I mean did he order essential services to go back to work.



That would be the deciding thing for me. Not guns, economy, climate,taxes, health care, none of that stuff is as important as what Steve did to destroy the right for health care workers to go on strike.

It seems that breaking the unions, arbitrarily deciding wage hikes and cutting the public service ( some considered essential) has been Harpers goal the last few years. I don't remember any other government meddling in the work force the way he has, but my memory may be short? I think these moves cost him a lot of votes, especially in Quebec and Ontario, and now the rest of us will pay the price with a Liberal/NDP government, either as a minority or coalition.

[titegroup]

Agreed, worked for CP rail almost 30yrs., never won one contract, always ordered back to work, company always got their way due to gov't intervention, when trains stop running, country goes in the dumpster pretty quick. That's history now but if Trudeau wins, this country is in the dumpster as well, an amateur running this country, lets see where can I move to.

[CaberTosser]

I don't need to read about his Dad to not want to vote for him, his work history and education is plenty enough. Growing up as he did I think it's fair to say he'd be rather different from his Dad, not similar in the way that Uday took after Saddam.

With the lies and misinformation I see of people yammering on in Facebook I think that far too many people look for things that back their pre-established dogma rather than sifting through numerous and diverse sources of information and forming an opinion from there. Lists of 'what Harper did wrong' from leftists who pad their length and size with lies are probably written by those who also respond to Enzyte emails. A lie in your list destroys all the rest you've written, be it accurate of otherwise, people with no personal credibility writing anonymous Meme's don't seem to mind much about truth and accuracy though. I resent when I see pro Conservative/political right Meme's for the same reason, I hate half-wits undermining 'my side' of the political spectrum with inaccuracies, idiocy or unfettered racism.

[TBD]

one that is beholden to Canada's large Federal Bureaucracies, Justin - like his father will continue to strengthen the Canadian Federal Gov't AGAINST Independent Canadian Business ...

What I found eerie during the debates was his, Justins, references to his father ...


http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...hers-footsteps


Thanks to the CBC and the rest of the "want to be" liberal media hacks in this country -- PET is the most over-rated national leader in the Western World !

.... the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation was endowed by the gov't of Canada (Chretien) with $125 million (tax payer dollars), to fund the creation of a program for advanced studies in the social sciences and the humanities.

http://business.financialpost.com/fp...e-conversation

Do you really think anyone in this family has to work again ?


... and he professes to represent the middle class !

TBD



PS ... Canada cannot afford another Trudeau !




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[Canuck_hunter]

Originally Posted by JustMe

It seems that breaking the unions, arbitrarily deciding wage hikes and cutting the public service ( some considered essential) has been Harpers goal the last few years. I don't remember any other government meddling in the work force the way he has, but my memory may be short? I think these moves cost him a lot of votes, especially in Quebec and Ontario, and now the rest of us will pay the price with a Liberal/NDP government, either as a minority or coalition.

Unions are the leeches of society and they need to be broken. Canadian tax payers cant afford them anymore. I think "I" Joe oilfield worker will go on strike because oil prices are low. its just not fair that I loose my job because of that.

[CaberTosser]

...

[kodiakken]

Lived through the Pearson and the Turdeo years and will never ever vote Liberal after the National Energy Program they layer on the West.
Sorry for being an old sour Bosstard but I never forget those little things.

Ken.

[59whiskers]

Justin is doing well living off his daddies income trust estate, What does he care about working class people? Prefer to vote for someone that is self made and proven. I will never forget about the Liberals NEP, gun control, tainted blood scandal,,, etc.

[CaberTosser]

Lets not forget how the liberals raided the EI surplus to throw towards their debt.......

[TBD]

expect at least (2) more federal ministries ...

One to institute a carbon tax for our new liberal climate change initiative, remember this will be the first international conf our young PM will attend in Paris.

a second to invest our CPP funds in Canadian infrastructure projects that will be approved disproportionately in favour of eastern Canada ... and the ones required to buy off the maritime vote.

Expect more federal intrusions into provincial jurisdictions, and new liberal infringements on our personal freedoms.

The middle class and well to do will get hit by higher taxes leaving less disposable income for your family, businesses will be hit with higher payroll taxes and new minimum wage increases ...

TBD


PS ... folks if you have any family members thinking of voting lib, pls talk some sense into them this one could be close !!

... as I predict the NDP vote will collapse under Mulchair (he's going to bankrupt that party )