Honda 3000 vs Twin 2000's

iliketrout · #1 09-02-2016, 10:21 AM

Ok, so with the recent trailer acquisition, I'm going to be looking to upgrade from my current 2000W Eu2000i to something larger. I like the Honda generators, never let me down, but I'm open to Yamaha too.

I know the 3000 will do what I need, but I was wondering if anyone had any real-world experiences with running twin 2000's in parallel? The 3000 is significantly bigger than the 2000, and even bigger than 2 of the 2000's...(47 vs 131 lbs). Is it more of a PITA to run 2 smaller gens than 1 larger one?

elkhunter11 · #2 09-02-2016, 10:32 AM

I purchased two American spec Honda 2000s and a harness from a business in Red Deer that was importing them from Montana several years ago., and a friend purchased them from me to use in parallel for his travel trailer. He was quite happy with them, and claims that they work well. At the time, the Canadian models were not capable of being run in parallel, but some of the newer Canadian models seem to be capable of parallel operation.

skidderman · #3 09-02-2016, 10:34 AM

I've not twinned my 2000 but the one thing I don't like is the fuel capacity. What happens if one runs out of fuel before the other? There is a way to hook up a larger tank which if done would make good sense. As far as I know there are two models of the 2000. One that you can buy a kit for to dual up. Most of the ones sold in Canada are not that model. The 3000 is nice but a back breaker.

iliketrout · #4 09-02-2016, 10:51 AM

I did not know that about the Canadian models. I'll have to double check my 2000 to see...it's fairly new so I'm hoping it can do it.

kingrat · #5 09-02-2016, 11:18 AM

I was in the same boat 3 years ago. And after alot of research ended up with a Yamaha 2400 ishc it starts and runs my aircondintioner no prob and after 3 years of hard use I love it.

gumby567 · #6 09-02-2016, 11:26 AM

After a lot of research and time I purchased this;

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na...generator.html

The thing starts first pull. Runs my entire trailer(A/C & Microwave) and is extremely quiet.

Great warranty(2 Year) with a service location here in Calgary.

Huntnut · #7 09-02-2016, 11:33 AM

Just this year the government approved the 2000 parallel generators into Canada. they are considerably lighter than the 3000. As far as fuel there is aftermarket fuel caps that you can install that draws fuel from another tank as the level goes down in the generator tank.

skidderman · #8 09-02-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Huntnut

Just this year the government approved the 2000 parallel generators into Canada. they are considerably lighter than the 3000. As far as fuel there is aftermarket fuel caps that you can install that draws fuel from another tank as the level goes down in the generator tank.

I bought one of those aftermarket caps. Threads were wrong and it would not seal right. Waste of money. If you look on youtube you can easily change the current cap to accept an outside hose. I have the parts. Just need to do it.

BobNewton · #9 09-02-2016, 02:57 PM

No real life experience.

But the love the idea of just packing one of the 2000's when ac or any other large loads aren't required.

reddeerguy2015 · #10 09-02-2016, 04:17 PM

Definitely twins. Trust me its makes WAY more sense than carrying around that heavy 3000watt. Then if you dont need ac you can just use one.

I put 1400hrs on my honda eu2000i running straight this summer (living in the rv while house is being built) - thing ran fantastic. We have shore power finally but she did her job.

Good luck

iliketrout · #11 09-02-2016, 04:38 PM

Thanks everyone so far. I like the looks of the Briggs genny too. Gotta figure out if my 2000 can be paralleled too. I suppose a call to Honda with the serial number should do it

elkhunter11 · #12 09-02-2016, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by iliketrout

Thanks everyone so far. I like the looks of the Briggs genny too. Gotta figure out if my 2000 can be paralleled too. I suppose a call to Honda with the serial number should do it

If it has the plug ins that the harness is plugged into, then you can parallel it.

The one below is missing the plug ins.

mxz1997 · #13 09-02-2016, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kingrat

I was in the same boat 3 years ago. And after alot of research ended up with a Yamaha 2400 ishc it starts and runs my aircondintioner no prob and after 3 years of hard use I love it.

Same here. Very happy with mine

coreya3212 · #14 09-02-2016, 08:57 PM

In addition to elk hunter trying to clarify if parallel is possible, your second gen needs to be the companion version of the two thousand. Some is a eu 2000 and one is a eu 2000 companion.

reddeerguy2015 · #15 09-02-2016, 10:51 PM

I've noticed a couple posts about a yamaha 2400 watt inverter. My dad bought one....it wont run either his or my ac on our rvs. Not enough juice.

If you are thinking about this inverter make damn sure it will run your ac BEFORE you buy it.

It may start a few of the smaller ac units out there but if your ac is a heavier unit you will need something better.

reddeerguy2015 · #16 09-02-2016, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by coreya3212

In addition to elk hunter trying to clarify if parallel is possible, your second gen needs to be the companion version of the two thousand. Some is a eu 2000 and one is a eu 2000 companion.

True. There are two separate units. I was chatting with the boys at turple brothers about this.

First unit will cost you $1200 plus gst. When you're ready for the second 30amp unit its $1500. Still in the same ballpark as a 3000 watt but much easier to deal with.

elkhunter11 · #17 09-02-2016, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by coreya3212

In addition to elk hunter trying to clarify if parallel is possible, your second gen needs to be the companion version of the two thousand. Some is a eu 2000 and one is a eu 2000 companion.

There is a harness to hook up two units without one being a companion. 30A receptacle is located on the harness.

reddeerguy2015 · #18 09-02-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

There is a harness to hook up two units without one being a companion. 30A receptacle is located on the harness.

There ya go. Anyone who buys a 3000 watt when given the chance of parallel 2000 watts is a fool...

Ice Fishing Maniac · #19 09-03-2016, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by reddeerguy2015

I've noticed a couple posts about a yamaha 2400 watt inverter. My dad bought one....it wont run either his or my ac on our rvs. Not enough juice.

If you are thinking about this inverter make damn sure it will run your ac BEFORE you buy it.

It may start a few of the smaller ac units out there but if your ac is a heavier unit you will need something better.

Depends on the size of your AC unit . I bought a Yamaha 2400 . Great unit, light quiet, price point is good. Our trailer has a 15000btu AC and the Yamaha will stall out on AC start up. A 3000 series won't. The 2400 will work if you get a capaciter installed on the AC which delays the AC initial draw on power. they are not that expensive...couple hundred maybe to have installed with parts.

I have not done mine yet. I was going to do it last fall but never got around to it. Next spring I will install it.

There are some other 3000-3500watt units for like 900-1200 dollars but you get what you pay for.

coreya3212 · #20 09-03-2016, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

There is a harness to hook up two units without one being a companion. 30A receptacle is located on the harness.

Well that's I didn't know.

mxz1997 · #21 09-05-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice Fishing Maniac

Depends on the size of your AC unit . I bought a Yamaha 2400 . Great unit, light quiet, price point is good. Our trailer has a 15000btu AC and the Yamaha will stall out on AC start up. A 3000 series won't. The 2400 will work if you get a capaciter installed on the AC which delays the AC initial draw on power. they are not that expensive...couple hundred maybe to have installed with parts.

I have not done mine yet. I was going to do it last fall but never got around to it. Next spring I will install it.

There are some other 3000-3500watt units for like 900-1200 dollars but you get what you pay for.

A lot of RV manufacturers cheap out and don't put start capacitors on the compressor motor. It costs $30 and 5 minutes to do it yourself. A 2400 Yamaha will run it easily after that.
https://www.amazon.ca/Supco-SPP6-Har.../dp/B00DZUAPQG

iliketrout · #22 09-06-2016, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mxz1997

A lot of RV manufacturers cheap out and don't put start capacitors on the compressor motor. It costs $30 and 5 minutes to do it yourself. A 2400 Yamaha will run it easily after that.
https://www.amazon.ca/Supco-SPP6-Har.../dp/B00DZUAPQG

I was also considering doing this.

Still on the fence, but I don't need the bigger genny until next year anyways as the small one will run everything in the fall without the A/C. Why can't Honda just make a 3000 with a reasonable weight!

neilsledder · #23 09-06-2016, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ice Fishing Maniac

Depends on the size of your AC unit . I bought a Yamaha 2400 . Great unit, light quiet, price point is good. Our trailer has a 15000btu AC and the Yamaha will stall out on AC start up. A 3000 series won't. The 2400 will work if you get a capaciter installed on the AC which delays the AC initial draw on power. they are not that expensive...couple hundred maybe to have installed with parts.

I have not done mine yet. I was going to do it last fall but never got around to it. Next spring I will install it.

There are some other 3000-3500watt units for like 900-1200 dollars but you get what you pay for.

Not sure how you if you do this when you turn on your AC, but if you turn the fan as lower as possible and the AC on the lowest (or I guess warmest) it helps the gen out.

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crazyperch · #24 09-06-2016, 08:40 AM

Honda has a new 3000 that is 77lbs

http://powerequipment.honda.ca/gener...eries/eu3000ik

iliketrout · #25 09-06-2016, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyperch

Honda has a new 3000 that is 77lbs

http://powerequipment.honda.ca/gener...eries/eu3000ik

We may have a winner. Spendy but the best of both worlds. Thanks for the link!

DiabeticKripple · #26 09-06-2016, 11:02 AM

My dad has a Yamaha 3000 I think. It's on wheels and is pretty heavy, but my mom and him (60 years old) can load it into the back of the truck. One side is way heavier than the other so he takes the heavy end.

It's been a great generator though. Been about 5 years and haven't had one issue. I think he runs premium in it and it purrs. It's also very quiet.

https://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products...up=PP&catId=33

crazyperch · #27 09-06-2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by iliketrout

We may have a winner. Spendy but the best of both worlds. Thanks for the link!

No problem, my buddy bought one last year and loves it.

nast70 · #28 09-06-2016, 11:38 AM

The bigger the better. Way to easy for someone walking around a campground to pick up and walk away with a 2000. My 3200 Cummins goes into the bed of the truck in the spring and doesn't come out until the snow flies. Damn thing weighs 120lbs!

Gun+Rod · #29 08-16-2017, 10:47 AM

I figured someone already asked this question on here. Any one else try that light weight Honda 3000?

Ken07AOVette · #30 08-16-2017, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumby567

After a lot of research and time I purchased this;

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na...generator.html

The thing starts first pull. Runs my entire trailer(A/C & Microwave) and is extremely quiet.

Great warranty(2 Year) with a service location here in Calgary.

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