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06-27-2015, 10:53 AM
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natural gas vent opens in Ontario
Fairly strange event to be seeing, on a golf course in Ontario. And the enviro nuts are saying this will occur more often now that the tundra is thawing.
There is another pic elsewhere of a frozen pond with gas bubbles under the ice, so they drilled a hole in the ice, and lit it up.
http://dutchsinse.com/6202015-major-...om-the-ground/
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06-27-2015, 11:07 AM
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Maybe we will have a new active vocano soon. WOW !
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06-27-2015, 11:14 AM
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Somebody might have drilled a well. Thinking their policies on drilling and reclaiming are way between the times. BIL has an abandoned well in the woods across from him, just a well head in the middle of the woods. No signage, no nothing, just the strong smell of natural gas in the little clearing. So obviously it's leaking. That's near Tilsonburg, but no different elsewhere. Worst part is people figure that's all right and normal.
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06-27-2015, 11:23 AM
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06-27-2015, 12:00 PM
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You can't smell propane till after they add the odor.
Lets fire a flare through that and see what happens. Lol.
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06-27-2015, 12:04 PM
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Sometimes I suspect there is a bad methane leak underneath my recliner... either that or the dog farted
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06-27-2015, 12:30 PM
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I worked down that way for the past two springs. The Sarnia area near there sits atop massive salt caverns that are utilized for the storage of natural gas. Enbridge and Union Gas are the big two and pump 100's of BILLIONS of cubic feet of the stuff underground. This could turn into an interesting story if it's one of the larger chambers to have ruptured.....
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06-27-2015, 04:11 PM
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Oh Dear:
Does that mean the people in Ontario are going to "cook in the sun" when they shut down all the natural gas?
And then when winter comes they will "freeze in the dark".
I better shut up. There is an NDP government in Alberta being lead by Ontario gas haters.
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06-27-2015, 05:28 PM
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So...is that a two stroke penalty or can you just drop on the other side?
Jack Nicklaus is making some challenging courses these days!
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06-27-2015, 05:42 PM
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uhh....freeze in the dark?
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06-27-2015, 06:25 PM
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Anybody up for a smoke?
I'd bet just hitting the go-pedal on a golf cart downwind of that plume could make for a memorable day.....
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06-27-2015, 06:53 PM
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Maybe it is something they could utilize to help pay down the 300 billion provincial debt.
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06-28-2015, 12:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roughneck12
You can't smell propane till after they add the odor.
Lets fire a flare through that and see what happens. Lol.
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Originally Posted by TreeGuy
I worked down that way for the past two springs. The Sarnia area near there sits atop massive salt caverns that are utilized for the storage of natural gas. Enbridge and Union Gas are the big two and pump 100's of BILLIONS of cubic feet of the stuff underground. This could turn into an interesting story if it's one of the larger chambers to have ruptured.....
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Natural gas has no color or smell until chemicals are added.
There is gas storage all over the states also in salt mines and in depleted oil and gas wells.
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06-28-2015, 07:22 AM
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Natural gas has no color or smell until chemicals are added.
There is gas storage all over the states also in salt mines and in depleted oil and gas wells.
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"Natural" natural gas has a pretty nasty smell, in fact can be fatal, depending on the amount of H2 S present. It's the processed stuff in your house that has an added odorant, so you can detect it.
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06-28-2015, 07:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mackinaw
Natural gas has no color or smell until chemicals are added.
There is gas storage all over the states also in salt mines and in depleted oil and gas wells.
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Clearly you don't work in the oil patch. When it comes out of the ground it has a very distinctive smell, even at 0 ppm H2S.
When it gets processed and the impurities are removed it then is odorless until the chemical to give it its new distinctive smell is added.
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06-28-2015, 08:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
"Natural" natural gas has a pretty nasty smell, in fact can be fatal, depending on the amount of H2 S present. It's the processed stuff in your house that has an added odorant, so you can detect it.
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Clearly you don't work in the oil patch. When it comes out of the ground it has a very distinctive smell, even at 0 ppm H2S.
When it gets processed and the impurities are removed it then is odorless until the chemical to give it its new distinctive smell is added.
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Are you talking about sour gas?
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06-28-2015, 08:34 AM
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The odourant mercaptan lets call it that, in the video they said it smells like propane, i wonder if it is one of those underground storage, this could be nasty
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06-28-2015, 08:50 AM
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Well, if that's the natgas storage for the east and it's leaking I'm guessing the only option for them is going to be........................
..........................wait for it.................
..............and east flow pipeline?
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06-28-2015, 12:55 PM
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They should lit it up and keep the golf course open the whole year.
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06-28-2015, 06:23 PM
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Oh Dear:
Does that mean the people in Ontario are going to "cook in the sun" when they shut down all the natural gas?
And then when winter comes they will "freeze in the dark".
I better shut up. There is an NDP government in Alberta being lead by Ontario gas haters.
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Most of the people that live in Ontario are used to smokey fires, thick mud wall homes, and cooking in the sun from their country of origin. They vote Liberal too, as a way of thanking the Liberals for leaving the immigration door open. I now consider myself a temporary foreign worker in my own country!!!!!
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06-28-2015, 06:25 PM
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The odourant mercaptan lets call it that, in the video they said it smells like propane, i wonder if it is one of those underground storage, this could be nasty
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Mercaptan is added at the gate station. 1 pound per million cubic feet if my fitter course served me well.
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06-28-2015, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sillyak
Clearly you don't work in the oil patch. When it comes out of the ground it has a very distinctive smell, even at 0 ppm H2S.
When it gets processed and the impurities are removed it then is odorless until the chemical to give it its new distinctive smell is added.
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Yeah, natural gas straight from the well head has a very distinct odor. Even different formations have a different smell. Cardium gas has a stronger smell than say Viking or dunveygan
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06-28-2015, 11:10 PM
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Yeah, natural gas straight from the well head has a very distinct odor. Even different formations have a different smell. Cardium gas has a stronger smell than say Viking or dunveygan
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We have two small wells back on the farm for our own use I don't remember any distinctive smell.
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Quote:
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We have two small wells back on the farm for our own use I don't remember any distinctive smell.
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That's a Good thing.
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That's a Good thing.
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Yes it is handy....don't know a lot about the gas or oil here so perhaps your gas dose smell
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