O'Leary May Announce Monday!

[Redfrog]

Doesn't sound like he knows any more about guns than the antis.

[CBintheNorth]

Well, he's in.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politic...m-in-1.3245919

[Okotokian]

Announces AFTER the French debate. He's a weasel. And an opportunist.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Announces AFTER the French debate. He's a weasel. And an opportunist.

That be true.

And thats putting it nicely.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

That be true.

And thats putting it nicely.

He just flew in from his home in Boston, and boy are his arms tired!

[rem338win]

O'Leary is as vain, socialist and corrupt as Trudeau, but intelligent enough to actually get the ship out of Port.

Very, very dangerous.

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

He just flew in from his home in Boston, and boy are his arms tired!

A parachute Con from Boston - just like parachute Liberal opportunist Micheal Ignateiff.

How contemporary and cool can you get - especially as an opportunist who only joined the Con Party in 2016.

He's just another liar without ethics and he no respect for anything other than his own money and personal greed. So many similarities to the one idiotically placed to assume power in the country to the south - but only far less successful at it then The Big Orange.

Seriously, a Montreal born, US resident of an Arab mother and an Irish father that's unable to speak French - perfect reasons for Westerners to support him.

I guess anything's possible in politics today. All he needs to do is insult some women and get a big orange wig to cover the chrome and he's on his way.

[thetruth]

Originally Posted by JimPS

A parachute Con from Boston - just like parachute Liberal opportunist Micheal Ignateiff.

How contemporary and cool can you get - especially as an opportunist who only joined the Con Party in 2016.

He's just another liar without ethics and he no respect for anything other than his own money and personal greed. So many similarities to the one idiotically placed to assume power in the country to the south - but only far less successful at it then The Big Orange.

Seriously, a Montreal born, US resident of an Arab mother and an Irish father that's unable to speak French - perfect reasons for Westerners to support him.

I guess anything's possible in politics today. All he needs to do is insult some women and get a big orange wig to cover the chrome and he's on his way.

If he turns out to be the best option to derailing the incoherent freak show we have emanating out of Ottawa currently, so be it. He'll have my full, unmitigated support, for what that's worth....

[rem338win]

Can Canada as a whole do us all a favor and not knee jerk vote for this guy as the leader of the only Party that has a chance of not destroying our countries future?

Seriously, look into what this guys is saying and what he historically has done and supported before you decide on it like its a choice between a big mac or a whopper.

[Unregistered user]

He's not gun friendly. Pierre Lemieux is.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Announces AFTER the French debate. He's a weasel. And an opportunist.

Yep. I really hope that he does poorly. Would serve him well.

[catnthehat]

We need to get something straight here.
Some of you hate O'Leary, some hate Trudeau and some just simply hate the politician of the month no matter where they are be it anywhere in this country or abroad.
Whatever and whoever you wish to run down that's fine , keep it clean or the post will go away as will the member .
It seems the moderators are more babysitters of a bunch of school kids who see just how far they can push the rules.
Pretty danged immature in my opinion.
Cat

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Announces AFTER the French debate. He's a weasel. And an opportunist.

Hmmmm and that's news from a political standpoint!
They all are...you gotta be to be in that business.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Hmmmm and that's news from a political standpoint!
They all all...you gotta be to be in that business.

LOL I'll give you that one... Most of them are anyway.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Announces AFTER the French debate. He's a weasel. And an opportunist.

Why do you feel he should have announced BEFORE the French debate?

[densa44]

Listen up, this is very important. It used to be said that the cons, read the right really didn't want to win, they just wanted to be "Right" in both contexts.

It took them years to see how much fun it could be to actually be government.

So follow me close here, you have to have a candidate that can beat J. Trudeau and aside from what you may believe it won't be easy. If O'Leary thinks he can learn French He may be better than John Diefenbaker was and less good than Joe Clark. Will this win an election, maybe but not in Canada.

If there isn't a good leader the Cons will lose.

You need a good leader, an electable leader, this is not the US,... yet.

We should talk about the mess here with the ledership too.

[BRU375]

Yep he is anti gun...so I'm not sure he gets my vote. He's no titan...review his fund and business history , not so stellar. More luck than skill. Bit of a mixed bag this one. Like trump he has an MBA in BS.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by densa44

Listen up, this is very important. It used to be said that the cons, read the right really didn't want to win, they just wanted to be "Right" in both contexts.

It took them years to see how much fun it could be to actually be government.

So follow me close here, you have to have a candidate that can beat J. Trudeau and aside from what you may believe it won't be easy. If O'Leary thinks he can learn French He may be better than John Diefenbaker was and less good than Joe Clark. Will this win an election, maybe but not in Canada.

If there isn't a good leader the Cons will lose.

You need a good leader, an electable leader, this is not the US,... yet.

We should talk about the mess here with the ledership too.

The next leader of the conservatives will have to be an easterner in order to get he conservatives a majority. But I would prefer to see Maxime Bernier.

[.257Weatherby]

Anyone ask the
Kremlin if he is going to run for them?
Don't know, don't care as he will not get my vote.
Sad to say it...
Rob

[CanuckShooter]

He lives in Boston, he isn't a real Canadian....unbelievable.

[The Elkster]

If one wants a conservative in power as I believe most here do than Mr wonderful is NOT the answer. Love him or hate him he will simply not get elected and a nomination for him is throwing another win at the Libs. Unless Canada takes an absolute economic and social nose dive in the time before the next election people aren't going to be in a mood for a drastic change.

The electorate is made of three kinds of voters. The hard left that will never change their vote no matter the liberal candidate, The hard right that will never change their vote no matter what the conservative candidate (See AO forum), and a moderate middle ground voter who's vote may actually be swayed by the general mood at the time and subtle differences in policy each candidate offers. Middle ground (ie swing voters) typically aren't looking for a paradigm shift in thinking or a polarizing figure consumed by money and ONLY money. One can think what they want personally but that middle ground voter is generally the key percentage points to winning an election. As we saw in the US.

If I were a conservative right now I'd be BEGGING Peter Mackay to run for PM. In Canada today the PC's need a likable relatively neutrally viewed young relevant politician to win the left leaning swing vote (remember doesn't matter what you think only matters what the swing voter thinks - your vote is in the bag and so is the hard left). A hard right politician is not going to win the swing vote in Canada. We simply do not have the current social make up (enough heavily religious right leaning areas) nor economic situation (we all complain but generally aren't doing too bad in Canada as a whole) to enable a hard right politician to win on an "economy only" platform. Maybe some day but not today.

Time will tell but based on the current run of (non)candidates the Conservatives are in real trouble. This leadership election may only be the start in their battle to get the PM seat back. I haven't seen one name that is going to get middle ground voters excited. And most people that aren't excited will vote the status quo.

[WillyOneStyle]

I'd vote for Fred Penner.

[pikergolf]

Interview with bnn if anyone is interested.

http://www.bnn.ca/bank-mergers-housi...p-bid-1.652967

[fitzy]

Originally Posted by The Elkster

If one wants a conservative in power as I believe most here do than Mr wonderful is NOT the answer. Love him or hate him he will simply not get elected and a nomination for him is throwing another win at the Libs. Unless Canada takes an absolute economic and social nose dive in the time before the next election people aren't going to be in a mood for a drastic change.

The electorate is made of three kinds of voters. The hard left that will never change their vote no matter the liberal candidate, The hard right that will never change their vote no matter what the conservative candidate (See AO forum), and a moderate middle ground voter who's vote may actually be swayed by the general mood at the time and subtle differences in policy each candidate offers. Middle ground (ie swing voters) typically aren't looking for a paradigm shift in thinking or a polarizing figure consumed by money and ONLY money. One can think what they want personally but that middle ground voter is generally the key percentage points to winning an election. As we saw in the US.

If I were a conservative right now I'd be BEGGING Peter Mackay to run for PM. In Canada today the PC's need a likable relatively neutrally viewed young relevant politician to win the left leaning swing vote (remember doesn't matter what you think only matters what the swing voter thinks - your vote is in the bag and so is the hard left). A hard right politician is not going to win the swing vote in Canada. We simply do not have the current social make up (enough heavily religious right leaning areas) nor economic situation (we all complain but generally aren't doing too bad in Canada as a whole) to enable a hard right politician to win on an "economy only" platform. Maybe some day but not today.

Time will tell but based on the current run of (non)candidates the Conservatives are in real trouble. This leadership election may only be the start in their battle to get the PM seat back. I haven't seen one name that is going to get middle ground voters excited. And most people that aren't excited will vote the status quo.

This might be the best political post I've ever seen here. Well said.
I ride in the middle politically and can say that Oleary will have to work very hard to convince me that my first impression of him is wrong. I'd have a very hard time voting in anybody that lives outside this great country to lead it. Lots of out rage here when others have tried it from the Liberal party ... I'm sensing a little hypocrisy here maybe.

We need a strong leader with mass appeal if we want to get rid of our current PM a Trump wanna be isn't going to cut. This is our country and it's leadership on the world stage not a reality show.

[MAC]

Originally Posted by fitzy

This might be the best political post I've ever seen here. Well said.
I ride in the middle politically and can say that Oleary will have to work very hard to convince me that my first impression of him is wrong. I'd have a very hard time voting in anybody that lives outside this great country to lead it. Lots of out rage here when others have tried it from the Liberal party ... I'm sensing a little hypocrisy here maybe.

We need a strong leader with mass appeal if we want to get rid of our current PM a Trump wanna be isn't going to cut. This is our country and it's leadership on the world stage not a reality show.

Completely agree with your opinion and The Elksters post.
Your first opinion on O'Leary is likely accurate some quotes from Arlene Dickinson (also former Dragon that spent seven years working with O'Leary)

"And the answer is: Yes, he's exactly the same person privately as he is on camera."

"Kevin is funny. I often enjoyed a glass of wine with him. He's also intelligent and a savvy self-promoter. But at his core, he's an opportunist. He doesn't do anything that doesn't offer a path to power, fame or fortune — and that should have us all afraid. "

"Instead of facing the other Conservative candidates in this week's French debate in Quebec City, he tweeted from his armchair. Kevin chose what was best for him, hiding out in Toronto instead of standing with fellow candidates and allowing Canadians to hear his views."

"Now, the self-professed billionaire, who couldn't part with $10,000, thinks he's the best person to lead our country. A person that's genuinely unconcerned with the lives of others wants a position that is solely about the lives of others."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/kevin...nion-1.3942349

She may not be impartial, but in my opinion she likely has it right.

MAC

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by fitzy

This might be the best political post I've ever seen here. Well said.
I ride in the middle politically and can say that Oleary will have to work very hard to convince me that my first impression of him is wrong. I'd have a very hard time voting in anybody that lives outside this great country to lead it. Lots of out rage here when others have tried it from the Liberal party ... I'm sensing a little hypocrisy here maybe.

We need a strong leader with mass appeal if we want to get rid of our current PM a Trump wanna be isn't going to cut. This is our country and it's leadership on the world stage not a reality show.

They will need someone that really really appeals to the voters of Quebec, otherwise forget it.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

We need to get something straight here.
Some of you hate O'Leary, some hate Trudeau and some just simply hate the politician of the month no matter where they are be it anywhere in this country or abroad.
Whatever and whoever you wish to run down that's fine , keep it clean or the post will go away as will the member .
It seems the moderators are more babysitters of a bunch of school kids who see just how far they can push the rules.
Pretty danged immature in my opinion.
Cat

Cat, just so I understand, I didn't see anyone insulting another forum member, and I didn't see any comments that would be over the line in a family forum. No swearing or sexual remarks, etc.. What post do you see as pushing the rules or so immature as to deserve comment? Perhaps someone made one and you had to delete it? Just trying to understand here. Thanks.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by hal53

Why do you feel he should have announced BEFORE the French debate?

Let him take the same spanking as those who put on their big boy pants and had the guts to go into that debate even though their French was terrible.

[Unregistered user]

Pierre Lemieux has my money.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Pierre Lemieux has my money.

Trudeau has mine. But it wasn't a voluntary donation.