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Old 10-14-2021, 08:47 PM
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This was submitted to the courts in 3 of the OIC cases last month by OFAH, it is a report of what they found and define as hunting rifles, of which 86% of the guns in the OIC qualify for status as hunting rifles.

https://www.ofah.org/insider/wp-cont...ic_FINAL-1.pdf
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Old 11-04-2021, 01:13 PM
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May be some hope here. Appears Justice Gagne was paying attention;

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As some of you may know we have been anxiously awaiting a decision from Judge Gagne since June 29th 2021 when we had the opportunity to argue our motions in court.
We suffered some minor losses in our action against the government on October 21st 2021 when Judge Gagne handed down her decision regarding some parts of our claim. So far ALL of the assorted cases surrounding the May 1 debacle have suffered some motions being struck.
However….
The Federal Court supports the ATRS cause of action against the federal government and four RCMP employees (para 33 and 34 of her decisions). Against the stiff opposition put forward by government lawyers ATRS prevailed in maintaining the main and highly significant action for Misfeasance in a Public Office. This ruling opens the door to a finding of the FRT opinion database is unlawful and causes damages to businesses and individuals. At issue is the unlawfulness of the FRT itself and the culpability of the individual RCMP employees who are alleged to have acted beyond their duties and powers to cause direct harm to ATRS and Richard Timmins, along with thousands of other individuals that have been effected by the unlawful changes to the FRT classifications.
The other causes of action were passed over by the court and removed, allowing a tight focus on the RCMP employees creating the FRT database.
ATRS and Mr Timmins will now focus on those specific allegations and provide the court with strong evidence that the FRT opinions regarding the Modern Series rifles are wrong at law and in fact.
This is the only court case aimed directly at the lawfulness ( or lack thereof ) of the infamous FRT. Since the OIC challenges were denied a review of the FRT opinions this is "The Case" to continue the challenge. By preserving the MPO cause of action the court has shown it is focused on the FRT and the action of the RCMP. There will be no other claims to distract from this highly important issue.
This promises to be thee landmark case.
You can be part of this case by donating to ATRS and Rick Timmins. As in any case this is a struggle. Your donations are desperately needed in order to continue with this important action. This case will define the legality or illegality of the FRT itself.
Donations can be made directly via EMT to legal@albertatacticalrifle.com or through our GoFundMe fundraiser here: https://gofund.me/1de58020
For those who have Modern Series rifle or receiver sets ordered we ask for your continued patience while our legal team continues to fight to either determine once and for all that the FRT has no legal standing and we can release the product to our clients, or alternately we are awarded damages with which to purchase back what was sold after May 1 2020.
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Old 11-23-2021, 12:32 PM
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Throne speech today, Parliament finally reconvening. We have a new public safety minister, Billy got shunted. Trudope is now talking about having the provinces bring in handgun bans instead of municipalities, and mentioned a buyback again. Wait & see what they've dreamt up now I suppose. It probably won't be pretty.

https://calibremag.ca/quebec-premier...eKCIbqxrphwLFg
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Old 11-25-2021, 10:43 AM
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Guess IBM has been pounding the numbers on guns affected by the OIC's, they say 517,000+, claim a value at 755,000,000, their report is attached, dug up by Cdn Taxpayers Federation;

https://firearmrights.ca/gun-confisc...YC1HrX02oFy4as
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Old 12-04-2021, 03:49 PM
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Pam Damoff has been appointed as an assistant, Parliamentary Secretary of some form to the Minister of Public Safety, that is not good. She is a Wendy and Heidi supporter of the first order.

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What a fantastic advert for what we can still buy!

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Old 12-06-2021, 11:55 AM
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This is one of the reasons not to trust anything from Pam Damoff, along with the statement during the HOC hearings on C71 that " gun owners are not a threat, til they're not".

https://justiceforgunowners.ca/liber...tmBwTSxJDWMIx8
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Chris D'Armani has taken up for Dennis R Young, he's keeping track of what is going on in Ottawa.
This subject really irks me, along with the Libs reducing sentencing from having any minimums, and the Supreme court advising prosecutors not to prosecute these charges when combined with other stuff;

https://christopherdiarmani.com/fire...aWSqJk4vgpdqgE
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If you thought what they did in C75 was a bit off the wall, don't read this, these are the sentences the Libs reduce this time;

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...C4tfODXIvldQlc
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Old 12-16-2021, 03:24 PM
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Guess we were all waiting for the shoe to drop on this, public safety mandate to the Minister, Mark Mendecino;

Dear Minister Mendicino:

Thank you for agreeing to serve Canadians as Minister of Public Safety.

From the beginning of this pandemic, Canadians have faced a once-in-a-century challenge. And through it all, from coast to coast to coast, people have met the moment. When it mattered most, Canadians adapted, helped one another, and stayed true to our values of compassion, courage and determination. That is what has defined our path through this pandemic so far. And that is what will pave our way forward.

During a difficult time, Canadians made a democratic choice. They entrusted us to finish the fight against COVID-19 and support the recovery of a strong middle class. At the same time, they also gave us clear direction: to take bold, concrete action to build a healthier, more resilient future. That is what Canadians have asked us to do and it is exactly what our Government is ready to deliver. We will work to build that brighter future through continued collaboration, engagement, and the use of science and evidence-based decision-making. With an unwavering focus on delivering results, we will work constructively with Parliamentarians and maintain our strong partnerships with provincial, territorial and municipal governments and Indigenous partners. This decade has had an incredibly difficult start, but this is the moment to rebuild a more resilient, inclusive and stronger country for everyone.

The science is clear. Canadians have been clear. We must not only continue taking real climate action, we must also move faster and go further. As Canadians are increasingly experiencing across the country, climate change is an existential threat. Building a cleaner, greener future will require a sustained and collaborative effort from all of us. As Minister, I expect you to seek opportunities within your portfolio to support our whole-of-government effort to reduce emissions, create clean jobs and address the climate-related challenges communities are already facing.

This year, Canadians were horrified by the discovery of unmarked graves and burial sites near former residential schools. These discoveries underscore that we must move faster on the path of reconciliation with First Nations, Inuit and Métis Peoples. We know that reconciliation cannot come without truth and our Government will continue to invest in that truth. As Ministers, each of us has a duty to further this work, both collectively and as individuals. Consequently, I am directing every Minister to implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and to work in partnership with Indigenous Peoples to advance their rights.

We must continue to address the profound systemic inequities and disparities that remain present in the core fabric of our society, including our core institutions. To this effect, it is essential that Canadians in every region of the country see themselves reflected in our Government’s priorities and our work. As Minister, I expect you to include and collaborate with various communities, and actively seek out and incorporate in your work, the diverse views of Canadians. This includes women, Indigenous Peoples, Black and racialized Canadians, newcomers, faith-based communities, persons with disabilities, LGBTQ2 Canadians, and, in both official languages.

Across our work, we remain committed to ensuring that public policies are informed and developed through an intersectional lens, including applying frameworks such as Gender-based Analysis Plus (GBA Plus) and the quality of life indicators in decision-making.

Canadians continue to rely on journalists and journalism for accurate and timely news. I expect you to maintain professional and respectful relationships with journalists to ensure that Canadians are well informed and have the information they need to keep themselves and their families safe.

Throughout the course of the pandemic, Canadians and their governments have adapted to new realities. Governments must draw on lessons learned from the pandemic to further adapt and develop more agile and effective ways to serve Canadians. To this end, I expect all Ministers to evaluate ways we can update our practices to ensure our Government continues to meet the challenges of today and tomorrow.

The success of this Parliament will require Parliamentarians, both in the House of Commons and the Senate, to work together across all parties to get big things done for Canadians. I expect you to maintain constructive relationships with your Opposition Critics and coordinate any legislation with the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons. As Minister, you are accountable to Parliament both individually, for your style of leadership and the performance of your responsibilities, and collectively, in support of our Ministry and decisions taken by Cabinet. Open and Accountable Government sets out these core principles and the standards of conduct expected of you and your office. I expect you to familiarize yourself with this document, which outlines my expectations for each member of the Ministry.

Our platform lays out an ambitious agenda. While finishing the fight against the pandemic must remain our central focus, we must continue building a strong middle class and work toward a better future where everyone has a real and fair chance at success and no one is left behind.

As Minister of Public Safety, you will prioritize efforts to keep cities and communities safe, notably by investing in crime prevention programming and implementing our firearms commitments. While continuing to support the important work of law enforcement, you will likewise prioritize policing reform to address systemic racism and ensure the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) meets the needs of the communities it serves, and to ensure the RCMP continues its work to transform its culture and create a culture of accountability, equity, diversity and inclusion. You will also take action to modernize and maintain the integrity of our borders and address complex and evolving threats, including to our economy, and protect our national security interests. Furthermore, you will ensure continued compliance with accountability and review bodies.

To realize these objectives, I ask that you achieve results for Canadians by delivering the following commitments.

• Continue to work to keep our cities and communities safe from gun violence by:
• Continuing implementation of C-71 regulations for firearms licence verification and business record-keeping;
• Making it mandatory for owners to sell banned assault weapons back to the government for destruction or have them rendered inoperable at the government’s expense;
• Requiring the permanent alteration of long-gun magazines so that they can never hold more than five rounds;
• Banning the sale or transfer of magazines capable of holding more than the legal number of bullets;
• Providing financial support to provinces and territories that implement a ban on handguns across their jurisdiction;
• Implementing the gang prevention and intervention program to provide direct funding to municipalities and Indigenous communities; and
• Working with the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada to introduce “Red flag” laws to allow the immediate removal of firearms if that person is a threat to themselves or others, particularly to their spouse or partner, and increasing maximum penalties for firearms trafficking and smuggling.

• With the support of the Minister for Women and Gender Equality and Youth, accelerate action to reform the RCMP, including by:
• Enhancing the Management Advisory Board to create an oversight role over the RCMP;
• Externalizing the Independent Centre for Harassment Resolution;
• Establishing defined timelines to respond to recommendations from the Civilian Review and Complaints Commission;
• Launching an external review of the RCMP’s sanctions and disciplinary regime to determine the adequacy of existing sanctions and whether they are applied properly and consistently;
• Prohibiting the use of neck restraints in any circumstance and the use of tear gas or rubber bullets for crowd control alongside developing national standards for the use-of-force; and
• Conducting an external review of de-escalation training to make sure it results in the safest possible outcomes for officers and Canadians.

• Introduce legislation to create a review body for the Canada Border Services Agency, including defined timelines for responding to complaints and recommendations.

• Continue working with the Minister of Health and the Minister of Transport to protect the health and safety of Canadians through safe, responsible and compassionate management of the border with the United States and other ports of entry into Canada.

• Engage with provinces, territories and municipalities that contract RCMP services to better connect the RCMP with community social support workers.

• Continue to work with First Nations partners to co-develop a legislative framework for First Nations policing, and continuing to engage with Inuit and Métis on policing matters. You will be supported by the Minister of Indigenous Services and the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations.

• Conduct an assessment of contract policing in consultation with provinces, territories, municipalities, Indigenous partners and stakeholders.

• Accelerate work to establish a dedicated unit to investigate all forms of major financial crime and consider options to strengthen laws and investigative powers relating to financial crimes. Concurrently, you will work to bring forward a proposal for the establishment of the Canada Financial Crimes Agency, whose sole purpose will be to investigate these highly complex crimes. You will be supported in this work by the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada and the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance.

• Contribute to broader efforts to promote economic security and combat foreign interference by:
• Introducing legislation to safeguard Canada’s critical infrastructure, including our 5G networks to preserve the integrity and security of our telecommunications systems;
• Expanding collaboration and information and intelligence sharing with Canadian partners and all orders of government to address security risks in foreign research and investment partnerships; and
• Increasing resources available to the RCMP and national security agencies for this purpose.

• Work with the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, and in close collaboration with Canadian industry and post-secondary institutions, to support innovation ecosystems across the country to support job creation, technology adoption and scale-up. This includes safeguarding Canada’s world-leading research ecosystem, as well as our intellectual property (IP) intensive businesses.

• Working with the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, Minister of National Defence and Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, and with the support of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, continue to advance the National Cyber Security Action Plan, ensuring Canada is well positioned to adapt to and combat cyber risks, and ensure the security and integrity of Canada’s critical systems.

• Continue to support the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities to support an integrated government response to protect Canada’s democratic institutions, including the federal electoral process, against foreign interference and disinformation, including cyber threats, and support the Minister of National Defence to ensure that Canada is in a position to respond to rapidly evolving risks and threats in cyberspace.

• Work with the Minister of National Defence, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, and the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, and in collaboration with implicated ministers, to develop and implement a renewed National Cyber Security Strategy, which will articulate Canada's long-term strategy to protect our national security and economy, deter cyber threat actors, and promote norms-based international behavior in cyberspace.

• Work with the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada to bring forward measures to counter the rise of ideologically-inspired violent extremism and strengthen the capacity of Canadian police and prosecutors to bring to justice cybercriminals and terror suspects to the fullest extent of the law.

• Continue to combat systemic racism and discrimination in the criminal justice system, including across all federal departments and agencies responsible for national security and the safety of Canadians. This also includes supporting the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada in their work to address systemic racism and the overrepresentation of Black and racialized Canadians and Indigenous Peoples in the justice system.

• Support the Minister of Housing and Diversity and Inclusion in the development of a National Action Plan on Combatting Hate, including by exploring potential adjustments to the Security Infrastructure Program to enhance effectiveness and to be more responsive to community needs.

• Work with the Minister Natural Resources and President of the Queen’s Privy Council and Minister of Emergency Preparedness to make our communities safe and increase forest resilience to wildfire, including training 1,000 new community-based firefighters, investing in equipment and other measures to reduce risks from wildfire and supporting fire management by Indigenous communities.

• To ensure that a whole-of-government approach is taken, support the Minister of Labour in introducing legislation to eradicate forced labour from Canadian supply chains and ensure that Canadian businesses operating abroad do not contribute to human rights abuses.

• Engage with provinces and territories to enact Clare’s Law so that individuals at risk of domestic violence can request information from the police, including from the RCMP, about their partner’s violent history.

• Continue modernizing infrastructure and processes at Canada’s ports of entry, including digital and right touch technology for travellers and conveyances, and ensuring the safety, security and integrity of our borders. This includes measures to address irregular migration and combat the trafficking of firearms and illicit drugs.

• Advance reforms to the pardons program to address systemic barriers, promote reintegration and ensure the system is fair and proportionate.

• With the support of the Minister of Mental Health and Addictions, continue advancing Canada’s first-ever National Action Plan on Post-Traumatic Stress Injuries, including additional investment to support the health and well-being of first responders.

• Develop a Federal Framework to Reduce Recidivism in consultation with provinces, territories, Indigenous communities, Black communities and other stakeholders. As part of this work, consider how to ensure that federal correctional institutions are safe and humane environments, free from violence and sexual harassment, and promote rehabilitation and public safety.

• Work with the President of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Emergency Preparedness, Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard, Minister of Transport and Minister of Health, among other colleagues, to ensure the Government of Canada continues to be prepared to proactively mitigate and respond to emerging incidents and hazards.

• Work with the Minister of Environment and Climate Change and the President of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Emergency Preparedness, and with support of the Minister of Natural Resources, the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry and the Sustainable Finance Action Council, develop a climate data strategy to ensure that the private sector and communities have access to data to inform planning and infrastructure investments.

• Work with the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities to bolster the security of ministers and Parliamentarians.

As Minister, you are also responsible for actively engaging with your Cabinet and Caucus colleagues. As we deliver on our platform commitments, it will be important that members of the Ministry continue to collaborate and work constructively to support rigorous and productive Cabinet decision-making. I expect you to support your colleagues in delivering their commitments, leveraging the expertise of your department and your own lived experiences.

To best achieve results for Canadians, Ministers must be rigorous and coordinated in our approach to implementation. I would therefore ask that you return to me with a proposed approach for the delivery of your mandate commitments, including priorities for early implementation. Furthermore, to ensure we are accountable for our work, I will be asking you to publicly report to me, and all Canadians, on your progress toward these commitments on a regular basis.

As we have been reminded throughout the pandemic, adapting to change is not only something government should do, it is something government must do. As you work to fulfil our commitments, I expect you to actively consider new ideas and issues as they emerge, whether through public engagement, your work with Parliamentarians or advice from the public service. I also expect you to work with your Deputy Minister to assess priorities on a continual basis as we build a better future for all Canadians. In addition to achieving results, you are responsible for overseeing the work of your department and ensuring the effective operation of your portfolio.

As you staff your office and implement outreach and recruitment strategies for federally appointed leadership positions and boards, I ask that you uphold the principles of equity, diversity and inclusion. This helps ensure that federal workplaces are dynamic and reflective of the Canadians we serve. You will also ensure your Minister’s office and portfolio are reflective of our commitment to healthy and safe workplaces.

Canadians expect us to work hard, speak truthfully and be committed to advancing their interests and aspirations. When we make mistakes – as we all will – Canadians expect us to acknowledge them, and most importantly, to learn from them.

I know I can count on you to fulfill the important responsibilities entrusted in you, and to turn to me, and the Deputy Prime Minister, early and often to support you in your role as Minister.

Sincerely,

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Old 12-17-2021, 07:51 AM
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Our new Public Safety minister at the SECU meeting yesterday;

https://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Harmony/en...BbZPvzayROGVjE
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THis will no doubt become a lot longer list over the next few months if Trudope and crew can get their way with things, they want to add airsoft as well as BB guns. Maybe the court challnge will be successful against the RCMP on the FRT changes, maybe not. Hurry up and wait and see. Certainly didn't want to envision this when this thread got started, and really didn't believe they'd go this far, but, here we are;

To All Dealers:

It has been brought to our attention that the below listed Stoeger Airguns are classified by the RCMP in the FRT system as PROHIBITED. FRT Reference no. 196899.

Reason has been described that due to the USA having a version with internal baffles at the muzzle inside the shroud and the plastic shroud/handgrip of the Canadian version being the same, this constitutes it being a SUPPRESSOR BODY thus being a prohibited device.

We are currently in discussions with the RCMP to revise this classification as the Canadian version has a fully extended barrel to the end of the shroud, occupying the space where baffles would exist.

• S82061E S4000E SPORT SYN .177 (1200FPS)
• S82071E S4000E SPORT SYN COMBO .177 4X32 SCOPE (1200FPS)
• S82071EE S4000E SPORT SYN .177 COMBO 4X32 SCOPE (<495FPS)

We suggest that due to this classification you do not sell or deliver this model until such time of resolution.

Once we have exhausted our communication with the RCMP we will advise you of next steps.

If you would like more details on the RCMP rationale and or interested in contacting the RCMP directly for inquiry, feel free to contact your sales representative or our offices.

Thank you for your understanding and we work through this absurd classification rationale and situation.


Regards,

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Old 12-23-2021, 01:44 PM
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Don't forget who works for you, people have time to write them over Christmas/New Years and there really isn't an excuse for not writing them these days, and plenty of reasons to do it, from the past events, and the promised future events;

https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en...g3e89cP8IUMI-I
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Looks as though the RCMP changed some more FRT's this wk;

https://www.armalytics.ca/?size=n_10...%5Btype%5D=any
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A Slamfire radio show with the fella that runs Armalytics, who keeps track of the OIC ban additions in a public site, on a real time basis, RCMP will not do that for the public at large, even the stores have trouble with the RCMP's real time system;

https://www.slamfireradio.com/episod...b18iy3KFKX4qHo
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Also some commentary out of New Zealand and what is what there these days;

https://news.fuseworksmedia.com/023d...4vc-433w0FYayg
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Possibly a benefit of having multiple cases bearing on multiple courts to see if something that will help us overall can be extracted from them, that can be used elsewhere. Runkle on an S74 hearing in Ont that the judge has ordered disclosure from the gov't on;

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Pay attention to the name of the judge;

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/rcmp...0VnCAD1laPp5To
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Mike LOberg released this on the S74 ruling today in AB Prov Superior court, some progress for sure, stiil a ways to go yet to get to the Supreme court, there was a PDF attached to it, but can't post those here, it'll likely be on the CCFR home page shortly;

Re: S. 74 Update - Brendan Miller and Greg Dunn are Kicking Ass

In Alberta Judge Fradsham decided, in a very well-written decision, that he has jurisdiction to hear the s. 74 statutory references about the "Nullification (Revocation) letters": Re Stark 2020 ABPC 230 (I did a post on that back in the day). There are contrary decisions of course, and the SCC is going to sort it out.
Between the courts of first instance (here Judge Fradsham) and the SCC there are the steps of the Superior Courts of each province, and the Courts of Appeal of each province, then the SCC. It's a 4 step process.
Stark won in the first instance, and the Attorney General of Canada applied to the Superior Court (in Alberta, the Court of Queen's Bench) to quash that decision and hold that the provincial courts lacked jurisdiction. Brendan Miller and Greg Dunn opposed that for Stark.
Here's a sampling of the good stuff from Mr. Justice G.H. Poelman (a serious heavy-hitter in his own right):
[45] I conclude that it was reasonable for Fradsham P.C.J. to hold that in substance the registration certificates were revoked. That means that the Registrar’s letter should be read as advising the respondents that the registration certificates issued to them were revoked.
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[70] In the absence of proper process and an express statement that previously issued registration certificates were revoked, and in the absence of any other provision in the Criminal Code or the Firearms Act mandating revocation in these circumstances, the revocation (nullification or invalidation) of the registration certificates did not occur by operation of law. As indicated above, in substance the Registrar’s letter revoked the registration certificates. In addition to the fact that nullification, making invalid and revoking amount to the same things in these circumstances, I find that the Registrar’s letter represented a decision on what to do with the affected registration certificates. The parameters of the Registrar’s discretionary authority under the Firearms Act is such that the decision was a revocation and subject to the reference provisions in section 74.
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[84] For the reasons given, I find that the learned Provincial Court judge reached a reasonable decision in concluding that he had jurisdiction to hear the respondents’ references under section 74 of the Firearms Act, although my reasons go beyond his. He thoroughly considered all of the relevant statutory and regulatory provisions in concluding that the registration certificates were, in substance, revoked and that this resulted from an act or decision of the Registrar. Accordingly, section 74(1) gives each of the respondents the right to refer the matter to a Provincial Court judge.

[85] As emphasized above, the way this matter comes before me is:
a) in Provincial Court, Canada applied to strike each of the referral applications for want of jurisdiction;
b) the applications to strike were dismissed by the Provincial Court judge; and
c) Canada applied in Queen’s Bench for certiorari, to quash the dismissal of the applications to strike.

[86] I dismiss Canada’s application for certiorari of the Provincial Court’s dismissal of its application to strike the section 74 references. Those references are therefore remitted to Provincial Court to be heard in accordance with the Firearms Act.
That, my friends, is a full-on victory.
Lawyers Brendan Miller and Greg Dunn are not (to my knowledge) on Facebook, but we owe them a debt of gratitude for knocking it out of the park.
Note: make sure you read paragraph 70 closely: That's a Superior Court Justice TELLING the lower court what the answer will be later on at the s. 74 hearing, and the lower court cannot (normally) do anything but apply that as decided law.
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If interested, Brantford Ont MP Larry Brock has a petition (non parlaimentary) against Bill C5, which is the stepchild of a combo of C75 from 2019 and C22 from last year, with a bit of C71 implementation thrown in;

https://www.larrybrockmp.ca/c5?fbcli...K_ZT7hhx_MDOas


https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/e.../first-reading
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SECU was having a discussion about crossborder smuggling guns, and gang intervention and prevention, etc. A mix of the previous gang discussions 4-5 yrs ago and current issues. Tracey posted a bunch of times about it today as she was there, this is the "summary" of the day in general;

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Dear Minister,
I'm writing to you after watching the meeting today of the Standing Committee on Public Safety & National Security (SECU). There were a number of expert witnesses from various law enforcement agencies like the RCMP, CBSA and the National Police Federation. The consistent message was a lack of funding, causing a lack of capacity to combat the smuggling of illicit firearms in to Canada. Due to these shortcomings, the gang violence in Canada is fueled by massive numbers of guns in the wrong hands.
As a concerned Canadian, a taxpayer but most of all a parent, I hold you and your government responsible for the complete mismanagement of our tax dollars with your proposed confiscation program to pay licensed gun owners for their legal guns you have banned.
Those precious resources, and your focus, MUST be immediately rerouted to the reduction of illicit guns in the hands of violent criminals. This is how we will save lives.
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SECU meeting, awesome reparte that nails the falsehoods of the LIberal gov't statements;
https://twitter.com/TWilsonOttawa/st...XSp_4sxjBy6yWA
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Thanks to Iron Noggin, buyback info request to businesses form.

And a link to some new CCFR vids of the SECU meetings that Tracey Wilson has been present at all last wk and this wk, she sat thru it all and they are now putting up vids on YT of the testimony. Certainly illustrates the lies the gov't has spouted on this portfolio over the last 4 yrs, almost 5 yrs now I'm thinking, have to look at date on first post. More info in the record.
If you find things like what Iron Noggin came across---add them. That 's what this thread is all about. And THANKS for keeping clean of debates, just da facts please;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZxxJtwYNw
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Tracey Wilson's play by play of the SECU meeting today, amusing stuff in here, and the Libs being told how wrong they are;

https://twitter.com/twilsonottawa/st...OOz_5ypPxsYgAE
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Tracey Wilson is still at the SECU meetings, they have decided to extend the hearing, so more will happen there.
Calibre Mag has an article out about what the libs are in process of doing towards bans, buybacks and etc at the moment, apparently they are ahead of schedule;

https://calibremag.ca/public-safety-...wXC_QEdPDjXvH8
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Report from the SECU on the Gun & Gang committee, it was run by Pam Damoff, so, results are probably a bit tilted, as she is a rabid follower of Wendy.
Remember " a legal gun owner isn't dangerous, until they are" from the C71 hearings she participated in.

CCFR is sipposed to be releasing witness testimony from the court case, haven't seen it posted yet, was supposed to be maybe by tomorrow. Or, maybe court won't let them do it.

THe OIC extension to 2023 has been covered already in the forum, the notice is on the RCMP website.

Dennis R Young (Christopher Di Armani) has been publishing posts and weekly summaries over the last 6 wks or so on people with firearms prohibitions getting busted, getting bail, and being ignored by Mendecino.

Libs have spent almost 9 mil at IBM to put together the buyback program computer system software.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/content/Co...1NYt-8flzW0I2w
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No creep?? One "expert" is very strongly suggesting that is the route to follow:

Should semi-automatic firearms be banned?

All semi-automatic firearms should be prohibited and confiscated, Professor R. Blake Brown urged in his submission to the Mass Casualty Commission in Nova Scotia. Despite the MCC’s attempt to hide submissions, I managed to find and criticize a copy of Professor R. Blake Brown’s paper. It’s now available here.

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Are they a problem?

On another note. Why are people so dumb?
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Give an inch, they take a mile! If you give up semi autos then lever actions and pumps will be next. Then bolts and finally single shots will be what your left with. Government has shown this time and time again which is why I’m against pretty much against any more gun control regulations.
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The anti's have been pushing that theme since the 70's that I can remember, it isn't going away, as long as they get a voice on the subject. The 5 rd capacity for all firearms has been presented once again too, they mean everything in their case.
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