fizzing?

waterninja · #1 03-30-2012, 08:13 PM

was reading new regs. and in the proper release of live fish section they say not to fiss (fizz) the fish. what are they referring to?

bloopbloob · #2 03-30-2012, 08:15 PM

puncturing the swim bladder with a needle to release air

Albertafisher · #3 03-30-2012, 08:32 PM

Try to avoid fizzing though, as it may be fatal for the fish.

NSRfishing · #4 03-30-2012, 09:05 PM

if the fish are that deep i dont drop a line

Cal · #5 03-30-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NSRfishing

if the fish are that deep i dont drop a line

This... if the walleye are coming up bug eyed then its time to go after trout or lay in some goldeye for the smoker in my world.

Jbone · #6 03-30-2012, 09:58 PM

How deep before the risk of build up in the air bladder?

DiabeticKripple · #7 03-30-2012, 10:02 PM

ive fished <30 feet for walleye and havent seen a bladder or bugged out eyes

horsetrader · #8 03-30-2012, 10:20 PM

you can have trouble at 30 ft and over depending on the fish and the speed it is brought up

huntsfurfish · #9 03-31-2012, 12:12 AM

The regs say 23' so its the law

Or would that be a recomendation?

For sure not a good idea to fish in over 30'

The shallower the better.

HunterDave · #10 03-31-2012, 01:30 AM

What about catching lake trout that are +100' deep? Same problem?

Steven Noel · #11 03-31-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

What about catching lake trout that are +100' deep? Same problem?

Lake Trout are much more adept for rapid vertical water column shifts and don't tend to have the same problem as the perch family.

bisonhunter · #12 03-31-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

What about catching lake trout that are +100' deep? Same problem?

Lot's of times while bringing in a trout you will see air bubbles as they "burp" out the excess air in their bladder. I haven't researched it but I believe they are one of the only species of fish able to do this.

I know whitefish sure can't.

Best advice for lakers is don't bring them up too fast and they will be fine.

fish on.

Freedom55 · #13 03-31-2012, 08:28 AM

Fizzing. If you are planning on keeping the fish, then you have no worries if the bladder expands out of the mouth. May not look so good, but you are killing the fish anyway. Fizzing not required.

If you are planning on keeping the fish in a live well for weighing later, then a fizzed fish, brought up from depth, might live long enough to get on a scale and be released live before it swims away to die. That bladder will no longer work effectively with a puncture in the sac. Tournament officials are generally trained to look for a puncture mark just forward of the anus.

Just to clarify things, an anus could also be a guy who would deliberately misinterpret the regulations to suit his narcissistic needs, and should be carefully handled so it will swim away. Please. Swim away.

A more useful purpose for a syringe would be to inflate a dew worm so it will float above the lake floor. The one I use has a plastic point that shoots air into a worm but is too short to work as a fizzing tool. No confusion when the officials are pawing through my tackle.

Free

pophouseman · #14 03-31-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedom55

Just to clarify things, an anus could also be a guy who would deliberately misinterpret the regulations to suit his narcissistic needs, and should be carefully handled so it will swim away. Please. Swim away.

and the pot get stirred........

WillyOneStyle · #15 03-31-2012, 09:44 AM

Not really related to Alberta fishing but... We were catching snapper (off Maui) in 150' of water and they had swim bladders poking out of their mouths, but not when caught in 60' of water. They were delicious from any depth though.

huntsfurfish · #16 03-31-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedom55

Fizzing. If you are planning on keeping the fish, then you have no worries if the bladder expands out of the mouth. May not look so good, but you are killing the fish anyway. Fizzing not required.

If you are planning on keeping the fish in a live well for weighing later, then a fizzed fish, brought up from depth, might live long enough to get on a scale and be released live before it swims away to die. That bladder will no longer work effectively with a puncture in the sac. Tournament officials are generally trained to look for a puncture mark just forward of the anus.

Just to clarify things, an anus could also be a guy who would deliberately misinterpret the regulations to suit his narcissistic needs, and should be carefully handled so it will swim away. Please. Swim away.

A more useful purpose for a syringe would be to inflate a dew worm so it will float above the lake floor. The one I use has a plastic point that shoots air into a worm but is too short to work as a fizzing tool. No confusion when the officials are pawing through my tackle.

Free

Yup, and I corrected that for ya! Besides no need for you to be so hard on yourself

Cal · #17 03-31-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bisonhunter

Lot's of times while bringing in a trout you will see air bubbles as they "burp" out the excess air in their bladder. I haven't researched it but I believe they are one of the only species of fish able to do this.

I know whitefish sure can't.

Best advice for lakers is don't bring them up too fast and they will be fine.

fish on.

I think most species of trout as well as pike and probably some other species can be brought up from the depths without harming them. It has to do with how the swim bladder is plumbed in, with species like walleye and perch when their bladder expands too fast it actualy plugs off the passage for them to let out the pressure. With trout and pike this doesnt happen. I'v caught perch out of less than 25' of water that came up bug eyed. Even in the summer doldrums you can usualy find walleye shallow if you fish the late evening.