Has anyone called the fish cops on themselves?

[Bassett]

Originally Posted by sendero

I’m just glad the OP didn’t fling any arrows this time out

^ this!

[bucksman]

sounds like the only one doing anything illegal here was you.

[Lefty-Canuck]

If you don’t respond...it might go away.

LC

[gloszz]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Is this the same fella that followed a set of rabbit tracks hoping a moose would be standing in the tracks at the end? Lol if it is, you made my day that day and I forgive you for this!

No guess you can't forgive me because I never did anything like that.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by gloszz

No guess you can't forgive me because I never did anything like that.

Yup your right. Was this thread I was thinking about. Not sure why I thought of your name...
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...t=Rabbit+track

[gloszz]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Yup your right. Was this thread I was thinking about. Not sure why I thought of your name...
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...t=Rabbit+track

It's because everyone holds me for an idiot on this forum. Now am I really or do I just play along to their drum beat?

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I used to call myself in a lot for fishing without a licence. The reward was 50 dollars more than the ticket.

You are a true entrepreneur eh.....beauty.

[bigwolf]

So someone was shooting a gun for 4 hours and you assumed he was poaching?..

It must have been one of those rare situations where animals are deaf and the poacher is a horrible shot.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by gloszz

It's because everyone holds me for an idiot on this forum. Now am I really or do I just play along to their drum beat?

If your faking it, your doing a really good job

[TBark]

Entertaining as usual.

TBark

[bitterrootfly]

Originally Posted by EZM

Reminds me of a story a friend who is a paramedic told me.

They had a "regular client" who would "wound himself" to get a ride to the hospital because it was cheaper than taking a cab to go see his friends.

Of course, minor injuries wouldn't do it, so he'd get ripped, smash his hand, split his head or whatever it took to get his free ride.

The respondents caught on to this game quickly and began treating him on the spot, and getting permission to release him on the spot - which was nearly impossible to do - so most times the drunk won and ended up getting a ride. They even threatened him with police action as he was potentially using an ambulance and tying up people who could be saving someone's life instead of playing a cabbie to a drug addict and drunk who needed a ride.

Nothing would stop or scare this guy and he knew they had to transport himself if his injuries were serious enough. This guy wouldn't quit.

One night in particular, he got drunk as a skunk and cut off half a finger.

They took him in, and this time, were "prepared" with someone who performed a "psychiatric evaluation" and told him they could hold him if he was a danger to himself or others ..... (which may not have been 100% true).

I guess you got to play a game to win a game.

At the end of the day it worked out for everyone because he stopped calling for rides long before he ran out of fingers.

Sounds like a case of play stupid games and you win stupid prizes.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

If your faking it, your doing a really good job

Lol

[AB2506]

Originally Posted by gloszz

It's because everyone holds me for an idiot on this forum. Now am I really or do I just play along to their drum beat?

Stop giving the forum ammunition to believe you are an idiot. That usually works best.

[AB2506]

Originally Posted by gloszz

I doubt that. No one is allowed to hunt this property. The neighbors that were interviewed by the officer claim to not have heard any guns shots so it makes me look like the bad guy.

Regarding my permit I showed him my online copy and he said no worries since he ran mine when he did a check. He wasn't too worried so I assume he didnt know you have to have it on your person? Was a young guy like me, looked 20-somthing?

Not only that but it is unsafe to shoot a rifle since there are occupied buildings in almost every direction and cattle walking around.

OMG! So many things in this post, but I'll only comment on one.

You didn't have you bow permit on you, but you showed him on your phone (I assume) that you had purchased one, and the officer had already checked and confirmed you had a permit, yet you assume he didn't know the law because he didn't right you a ticket for not having the permit on your person? You profiled him because of his age? Unbelievable!

Now days, a young F&W officer has an Applied Bachelor's degree in Resource Management and Conservation Enforcement (I'm not looking up the current degree title). Four long years of study, summers working for peanuts trying to gain experience. Perhaps years of seasonal and contract work before he won the lottery and got his dream job. He knew the law, but he had confirmed you had a permit and had misplaced it. Having your tags with you, he knew you made a mistake forgetting the permit, but he chose to exercise discretion and not charge you. This is the type of human officer we want in enforcement.

I've worked in enforcement 28 years. I could write tickets every day all day long, but enforcement is more than writing tickets. Educating the public about the laws is probably job one. Then I can utilize verbal warnings, written warnings, remedial orders with tickets taking a backseat to all that, depending on the circumstance. Some calls are not founded. It's all enforcement. Most people or corporations that are issued tickets committed acts intentionally or by negligence that caused harm to the environment or City infrastructure and/or did not comply with the instructions on the written warnings or remedial orders. Others talk themselves into tickets. (Be polite to the Officer!)

A good enforcement officer uses all the tools in his toolbox to enforce the laws he is authorized to enforce in his jurisdiction, following departmental policies and procedures. He remembers how he would like to be treated and treats the citizens with respect. As a supervisor once told us "I could train a monkey to write tickets, but I pay you a good salary to think and exercise discretion".

Instead of assuming this young officer didn't know his job, you should celebrate that he exercised discretion and did not write you a ticket. A lot of older F&W officers would have.

[gloszz]

Originally Posted by AB2506

OMG! So many things in this post, but I'll only comment on one.

You didn't have you bow permit on you, but you showed him on your phone (I assume) that you had purchased one, and the officer had already checked and confirmed you had a permit, yet you assume he didn't know the law because he didn't right you a ticket for not having the permit on your person? You profiled him because of his age? Unbelievable!

Now days, a young F&W officer has an Applied Bachelor's degree in Resource Management and Conservation Enforcement (I'm not looking up the current degree title). Four long years of study, summers working for peanuts trying to gain experience. Perhaps years of seasonal and contract work before he won the lottery and got his dream job. He knew the law, but he had confirmed you had a permit and had misplaced it. Having your tags with you, he knew you made a mistake forgetting the permit, but he chose to exercise discretion and not charge you. This is the type of human officer we want in enforcement.

I've worked in enforcement 28 years. I could write tickets every day all day long, but enforcement is more than writing tickets. Educating the public about the laws is probably job one. Then I can utilize verbal warnings, written warnings, remedial orders with tickets taking a backseat to all that, depending on the circumstance. Some calls are not founded. It's all enforcement. Most people or corporations that are issued tickets committed acts intentionally or by negligence that caused harm to the environment or City infrastructure and/or did not comply with the instructions on the written warnings or remedial orders. Others talk themselves into tickets. (Be polite to the Officer!)

A good enforcement officer uses all the tools in his toolbox to enforce the laws he is authorized to enforce in his jurisdiction, following departmental policies and procedures. He remembers how he would like to be treated and treats the citizens with respect. As a supervisor once told us "I could train a monkey to write tickets, but I pay you a good salary to think and exercise discretion".

Instead of assuming this young officer didn't know his job, you should celebrate that he exercised discretion and did not write you a ticket. A lot of older F&W officers would have.

No haha, he checked after I showed him just to be sure. I assumed he was being nice and didn't write me a ticket for either being nice and seeing I was a normal person that made a mistake or he did not know that I have to have a physical copy. I assume I needed a physical copy, same as with a fishing license. I respect him for being a normal person and not trying to be arrogant. We talked about a few questions I had regarding issues I was not too sure about.

[hayseed]

Don't forget about the part of said officer ruining your hunt...

[Norwest Alta]

I know where you'd find your bow if I was pounding posts and you come up to me and said I was interfering with your hunt by making gun shot noises.

[Brobee]

Originally Posted by bowhunter9841

My guess is that the gunshots are not going to affect your hunt near as much as you think. If anything, they might even push game your way. I sometimes hunt near a shooting range. It doesn’t seem to affect the animals at all. And they often take up residence on the range property once they feel the pressure from hunting.

+1. I’ve recently been doing a lot of target practice on my farm property and can attest to deer coming out of the tree line less than 100 meters from my backstop and grazing while I am still engaged in target practice. This is in a rural zone where there is heavy bow and gun hunting.

As an aside, I also have had interaction with fish and wildlife officers resulting from bow hunters on neibouring properties who were upset at the noise and then calling in to report “poaching”...the best irony was that the deer came out of the woods once while I was talking to the fish cop who was checking it out as a result of a complaint. I let him try my rifle and he went on his way.

While this is admittedly stereotyping, behavior like this from a group of hunters makes it hard for me to consider granting permission to hunt my place when I’m not there.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by gloszz

Well not really because they won't be hunting near or on the area I will be because I won't be bow hunting anymore. I'll be rifle hunting. The issue here is that even if they were sighting in their rifle, I feel it was unnecessary to shoot for 4 hours. It doesn't take that long to sight in a rifle. If it was coyotes then there must have been a lot of coyotes because it was consecutive shots and then shots with a few minutes in between.

Target practice maybe but shoot during the day when the animals are bedded down for the day, not shoot from 3 to sundown... I understand it's their land but just like I don't sky bust or roost jump, people should consider the other people that may be around them. I also don't rip around in the marina, but I could?

Ladies and gentlemen. Today I would like to introduce you to the millennial...

[Justfishin73]

Good grief, if its my land, Ill shoot for 10 damn hours if I see fit. You want seclusion?--buy your own land!

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Ladies and gentlemen. Today I would like to introduce you to the millennial...

That about sums this one up!

[sns2]

Oh my...

[Coyotebutcher]

Originally Posted by gloszz

Well not really because they won't be hunting near or on the area I will be because I won't be bow hunting anymore. I'll be rifle hunting. The issue here is that even if they were sighting in their rifle, I feel it was unnecessary to shoot for 4 hours. It doesn't take that long to sight in a rifle. If it was coyotes then there must have been a lot of coyotes because it was consecutive shots and then shots with a few minutes in between.

Target practice maybe but shoot during the day when the animals are bedded down for the day, not shoot from 3 to sundown... I understand it's their land but just like I don't sky bust or roost jump, people should consider the other people that may be around them. I also don't rip around in the marina, but I could?

A little too warm still for snowflakes isn’t it. I can’t believe the entitlement some people have. A landowner was nice enough to grant you permission (which is already a hard thing these days) and your calling f and w on their neighbors because they’re target shooting? And calling them poachers? My land and the same situation, you’d be begging door to door again for a place to hang a stand.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Ladies and gentlemen. Today I would like to introduce you to the millennial...

No kidding...entitled to the entitlement...brutal.

LC

[Jays toyz]

If I grant you permission and you inconvenience or cause drama with my neighbor in any way, you sure as hell would be told never to return.

[wildbill]

Originally Posted by EZM

Reminds me of a story a friend who is a paramedic told me.

They had a "regular client" who would "wound himself" to get a ride to the hospital because it was cheaper than taking a cab to go see his friends.

Of course, minor injuries wouldn't do it, so he'd get ripped, smash his hand, split his head or whatever it took to get his free ride.

The respondents caught on to this game quickly and began treating him on the spot, and getting permission to release him on the spot - which was nearly impossible to do - so most times the drunk won and ended up getting a ride. They even threatened him with police action as he was potentially using an ambulance and tying up people who could be saving someone's life instead of playing a cabbie to a drug addict and drunk who needed a ride.

Nothing would stop or scare this guy and he knew they had to transport himself if his injuries were serious enough. This guy wouldn't quit.

One night in particular, he got drunk as a skunk and cut off half a finger.

They took him in, and this time, were "prepared" with someone who performed a "psychiatric evaluation" and told him they could hold him if he was a danger to himself or others ..... (which may not have been 100% true).

I guess you got to play a game to win a game.

At the end of the day it worked out for everyone because he stopped calling for rides long before he ran out of fingers.

Half a finger for a free ride?
Sounds like a real genius!

[sevenmil]

Not sure how the cop ruined your hunt. You were the one that called him there.
Not surprised he asked you for your papers. To be clear, even if the “offending”
shooters were trespassing, that is still not poaching. Poaching and trespassing
are two different things. Yes, a poacher could trespass and a trespasser could be poaching, but my good heavens the term poacher is sure used loosely on this forum. And I just love how so many are so ready to report something that they don’t even know is a violation for sure. Good grief.

[Swamp hunter]

Lol better stay in the city...

[blgoodbrand1]

Originally Posted by Swamp hunter

Lol better stay in the city...

That’s the thread right there


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[gloszz]

Originally Posted by Swamp hunter

Lol better stay in the city...

That's very original. Thing is i haven't lived in the city for 15 years.