338-06 or 35 whelen - Page 2

LiegeRiver · #31 03-26-2018, 11:05 AM

Hey, guys. Salavee, what are the min amd max limits for Ramshot Big Game in the 338-06? I don't have that powder in my data. What kind of velocities were you getting? My chamber will allow a 200 grain Accubond to be seated out to 3.39"...just have to check the magazine box to see how the length is.
As far as a scope is concerned, I have two Leupolds... a 6X42, with the Long Range duplex, and a VX-2 3-9x40, with the LR duplex. I like both...the 6x is simple and strong, while the 3-9 offers some versatility as far as low powers are concerned. Decisions, decisions....

LR

Salavee · #32 03-26-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LiegeRiver

Hey, guys. Salavee, what are the min amd max limits for Ramshot Big Game in the 338-06? I don't have that powder in my data. What kind of velocities were you getting? My chamber will allow a 200 grain Accubond to be seated out to 3.39"...just have to check the magazine box to see how the length is.
As far as a scope is concerned, I have two Leupolds... a 6X42, with the Long Range duplex, and a VX-2 3-9x40, with the LR duplex. I like both...the 6x is simple and strong, while the 3-9 offers some versatility as far as low powers are concerned. Decisions, decisions....

LR

I'm using 58.7 gr RS Big Game for a MV of 2825 / 24 "/ COAL 3.340
The usual cautions apply .. Start at 55.0 Chronograph required.

55.7 gr IMR 4320 provides the same velocity. Start at 52.0 gr.

As for Magazine length, if you want to seat longer than your magazine allows, just cut the tips off the Accubond with Dremel or similar. I didn't see any difference in POI to 300 yds.

Mr Bartell · #33 03-27-2018, 12:46 AM

Both chamberings are fantastic big game cartridges. I prefer the 338 version, I feel it's a bit more versatile with bullets from 160 up to 300gr

rembo · #34 03-27-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Bartell

Both chamberings are fantastic big game cartridges. I prefer the 338 version, I feel it's a bit more versatile with bullets from 160 up to 300gr

I'll bet that most guys on this forum own at lest three big game rifles thereby negating the need for "versatile" chamberings. To go from 160 to 300 grains I'd have three rifles, a 7mm bore, a 338 and a 375.....versatility in one rifle is an outdated concept to most.

Homesteader · #35 03-27-2018, 11:06 AM

I'd go Whelen inside 300yds. I'd also look at the 9.3x62 as mentioned. I didn't read all the posts, but for Alberta use, you're splitting hairs, pun intended.

I'd also sell yours, and buy one already done, but maybe not as much fun for you. Good luck.

Mr Bartell · #36 03-27-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rembo

I'll bet that most guys on this forum own at lest three big game rifles thereby negating the need for "versatile" chamberings. To go from 160 to 300 grains I'd have three rifles, a 7mm bore, a 338 and a 375.....versatility in one rifle is an outdated concept to most.

true, and I am in that boat, owning a 280, 338-06 & 375 (throw a 308 & 300wm in the mix too). Nonetheless, I view the 338-06 as a more versatile chambering than the Whelen

LiegeRiver · #37 03-27-2018, 07:43 PM

Well, I have two 9.3x62’s, and a 375.....I think I have all the bases covered, lol. 😬

REMINGTON JIM · #38 04-13-2018, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gerrygoat

The way I look at it between the two is if you really want a step above the standard 30-06 then go to the 35 Whelen or 9.3x62 as also mentioned. The 338-06 is a fine round but so is a heavy loaded 30-06. I have a Benchmark 1 in 12 twist 35 Whelen which I really like, can shoot anything from pistol bullets for the 357 magnum up to the 310 gr Woodleigh.

Common Gerry

u know it the 338-06 A Square is a MUCH superior round compared to the 35 W The bullets have much higher BCs and SD s so it has to to be way Better !

I have ALL the 338 s and no 35 cals

Cheers RJ

double gun · #39 04-13-2018, 09:48 AM

The Whelen is a great cartridge.... if you can’t find a 338-06 or a 9.3x62.

LiegeRiver · #40 04-13-2018, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by double gun

The Whelen is a great cartridge.... if you can’t find a 338-06 or a 9.3x62.

gerrygoat · #41 04-13-2018, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by REMINGTON JIM

Common Gerry

u know it the 338-06 A Square is a MUCH superior round compared to the 35 W The bullets have much higher BCs and SD s so it has to to be way Better !

I have ALL the 338 s and no 35 cals

Cheers RJ

Huh, what about your BLR in 358 Win

lol

Yep the 338-06 has really outsold the 35 Whelen in a big way..........not

I believe your son agrees with me too lol.

kaleh01 · #42 04-14-2018, 10:00 AM

Ballistics and bullet selection are better in .338 than.35. I went with a 22” 338-06 in a rem 700, was also supposed to be my Africa rifle but it’s never made the trip yet, just like me, lol

I run 210 ttsx with Varget for 2850fps, it’s killed a whitetail in its tracks and 2 coyotes with one shot so far. I love it

Salavee · #43 04-14-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Bartell

Both chamberings are fantastic big game cartridges. I prefer the 338 version, I feel it's a bit more versatile with bullets from 160 up to 300gr

I agree that the .338-06 is a great cartridge and quite versatile but when it comes to launching 160 gr or 250-300 gr projectiles I think there are far better choices. .. namely the 30-06 Sprg and 9.3x62 M. My 10 twist 338-06's seem to like the 200-225 grainers by a fair margin. Has anyone tried the 185 TTSX with good results ?

fps plus · #44 04-14-2018, 11:37 AM

One day the 338-06 will develop out of the pupa stage and become a beautiful 35 Whelen

fps plus · #45 04-14-2018, 12:05 PM

I built a 338-06 for a fella and it loves the 185 x bullets and velocity is silly fast.

Thunder/FX · #46 04-15-2018, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Salavee

I agree that the .338-06 is a great cartridge and quite versatile but when it comes to launching 160 gr or 250-300 gr projectiles I think there are far better choices. .. namely the 30-06 Sprg and 9.3x62 M. My 10 twist 338-06's seem to like the 200-225 grainers by a fair margin. Has anyone tried the 185 TTSX with good results ?

Yes sir!
Here is one out of my 2017 Elk.
351 yds. Win 70. 338 Benchmark barrel.
185gr TSX. Varget.338 tsx 185gr.jpg

2017 Elk.jpg

Salavee · #47 04-15-2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder/FX

Yes sir!
Here is one out of my 2017 Elk.
351 yds. Win 70. 338 Benchmark barrel.
185gr TSX. Varget.Attachment 144994

Attachment 144995

Very Nice !! What was your MV and COL ?

LiegeRiver · #48 05-03-2018, 10:19 AM

Well, after talking with Salavee, and doing a range trip, the new rifle produced a couple of sub-MOA groups, with Ramshot Big Game, WLR primers and 200 grain Nosler Accubonds. I have made a couple of adjustments with regard to cases (went with Winchester, as it has a slight bit more room), went to CCI primers from WLR, and adjusted the seating depth (I was probably a bit far out for the first run). I will post results after the next range trip on Sunday/Monday.
On another note, my semi-custom Model 7, in 7mm-08 also showed me a sub-MOA group with RL 19 and 145 grain Speer Hot-Cor bullets.

It was an awesome day!!

LR