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10-19-2015, 01:19 AM
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Will You Voluntarily Turn in Your Firearms?
If Justin gets elected, even with a minority government, and he passes legislation with the backing of the NDP, makes semi automatic rifles and auto-loading shotguns illegal, will you turn your firearms into the government voluntarily?
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10-19-2015, 01:42 AM
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Depends on the penalty of getting caught with one. Willing to lose your job and go to jail if it is part of the penalty? Not me. Myself, if it's not a criminal record penalty, I would keep them.
Last edited by Talking moose; 10-19-2015 at 01:48 AM.
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10-19-2015, 04:45 AM
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They won't take our guns.
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10-19-2015, 05:07 AM
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enough with fear mongering. I actually agree with the libs gun policy. here is a link to it so read it yourself
https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/guns/
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10-19-2015, 05:26 AM
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If your a liberal nut move back east were your opinion might be appreciated. Because Liberals and NDP voters aren't welcome in Alberta.
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10-19-2015, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntinfishinnstuff
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And what's next bibles, and then...our grandfathers or in some case great grandfathers put a mad men to rest, it all got its start somewhere. Think about it.
Are tougher gun laws the answer? How about tougher on the criminal laws and let the rest of us go hunting right after a few good hangings...
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10-19-2015, 05:53 AM
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Guns? What guns?
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10-19-2015, 06:07 AM
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I am taking the 5th on this question!
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10-19-2015, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ruttnbuckcojack
If your a liberal nut move back east were your opinion might be appreciated. Because Liberals and NDP voters aren't welcome in Alberta.
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What a useless and obviously wrong statement, you've insulted anyone who voted liberal and stated your opinion as being that of the whole province. In case you missed the provincial election NDP voters are the majority here.
Maybe try actually reading their proposed changes to gun laws that "huntinfishinnstuff" posted and not just the conservative propaganda that's all over Facebook and the internet in general.
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10-19-2015, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntinfishinnstuff
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Maybe read the International Arms trade treaty they are talking about.
It's a little more than you think.
What do you know about transporting hand guns?
you ALREADY need a permit.
They won't create a registry?
if that is the case then why require records??
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10-19-2015, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
Are tougher gun laws the answer? How about tougher on the criminal laws and let the rest of us go hunting right after a few good hangings...
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Again, try reading the proposed changes posted above. They specifically target illegal guns and making it harder for criminals to aquire and transport restricted weapons. Also taking the decision to ban certain weapons away from politicians, how can you argue against that?
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10-19-2015, 06:19 AM
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The simple fact they will sign the UN Small Arms treaty is all I need to know about the Libs. Reinstating ATTs to no purpose, lauding "Australian style firearms laws", and reclassifying firearms via a new "panel of experts" that will no doubt include psychotic gun control zealots like Wendy Cukier should be enough for every other firearms owner out there.
Anyone who believes the Libs or Dips will stop at their stated platforms on gun control, is an absolute moron.
I despair for the future of Canada.
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10-19-2015, 06:47 AM
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AdverseCity, you are missing a very important point. You cannot make it more difficult for criminals to move or transport guns, because they simply do not follow any of the laws, they do what ever they want to do. Make all the laws you want, the criminals just ignore them.
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10-19-2015, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AdverseCity
Again, try reading the proposed changes posted above. They specifically target illegal guns and making it harder for criminals to aquire and transport restricted weapons. Also taking the decision to ban certain weapons away from politicians, how can you argue against that?
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Please making it harder for criminals to get illegal guns, do you really think they care whether they are legal or illegal, restricted or not restricted, ban a politician...jeepers the picture is painted with roses but behind the bed of roses lurks a multi headed snake.
Give you what you want to hear and get the check in the box then off on their intended set agenda...
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10-19-2015, 06:59 AM
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"•repeal changes made by Bill C-42 that allow restricted and prohibited weapons to be freely transported without a permit, and we will put decision-making about weapons restrictions back in the hands of police, not politicians;
This statement is a complete lie
You still need an ATT to transport and only to certain locations
Eg. I live on the Sask. side of Lloyd my ATT allows me to take my restricted to a Gunsmith in Saskatoon but not across the street to Prophet river.
Justin said he will consult with woman's groups for reclassifying firearms?
The good part is a party here in Canada only lasts a few terms before the rabble rousers convince the voters to throw them out because of vengeance rather than common sense
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10-19-2015, 07:05 AM
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Hidden agenda, fear mongering or not. We are always on the slippery slope of government adding stricter firearms laws. It could happen anytime. Maybe one should consider joining the NFA or CSSA so we at least have a common voice pushing back at the government instead of bantering back and forth on a forum.
It's fine to talk about it, but really as firearms owners we should all be standing together at some point.
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10-19-2015, 07:12 AM
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There's a ill wind blowing !
I'm a little worried ,the only post that makes sense to me is 58 post 3 .
Bring back the rope ......all libtards back to Ontario ....
I think we should start disposing of Dippers in the south first
Then oh never mind ....
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10-19-2015, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AdverseCity
What a useless and obviously wrong statement, you've insulted anyone who voted liberal and stated your opinion as being that of the whole province. In case you missed the provincial election NDP voters are the majority here.
Maybe try actually reading their proposed changes to gun laws that "huntinfishinnstuff" posted and not just the conservative propaganda that's all over Facebook and the internet in general.
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Maybe you should read the link he posted. The conservative propaganda has only said what the liberals have said. And I don't care if liberal voters are insulted, they should move back east if they don't like the way things are done, we don't need them here.
The province did not truly vote NDP, the NDP knows this and is trying to get through the next 3 years without roughling feathers.
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10-19-2015, 07:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdverseCity
Again, try reading the proposed changes posted above. They specifically target illegal guns and making it harder for criminals to aquire and transport restricted weapons. Also taking the decision to ban certain weapons away from politicians, how can you argue against that?
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Because they are stupid changes. Police should have no say in when to make a gun illegal. Increased back ground checks? No thanks. Records kept for sales? No thanks. Opinion of woman's groups? No thanks.
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10-19-2015, 07:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdverseCity
What a useless and obviously wrong statement, you've insulted anyone who voted liberal and stated your opinion as being that of the whole province. In case you missed the provincial election NDP voters are the majority here.
Maybe try actually reading their proposed changes to gun laws that "huntinfishinnstuff" posted and not just the conservative propaganda that's all over Facebook and the internet in general.
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Insulted Liberals? The Liberals are the ones that have insulted all law abiding Canadian gun owners by implying that we are not to be trusted with firearms. Liberals are the one's that insulted western Canadians time and time again.
NDP voters have never been the majority in Alberta. A majority is more than half. Be that as it may, they had the numbers to elect a majority government on election day, but they do not anymore, and they will never get elected again. It was a terrible accident. Just a taste of socialism...even without a budget (which is going to be a bloody mess), has even the most left wing Albertans running away from the dippers in droves.
If you want to see a government running this country into the ground, and trampling on law abiding citizens legal use of guns, then you don't deserve any respect. Simple as that.
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10-19-2015, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rugatika
Insulted Liberals? The Liberals are the ones that have insulted all law abiding Canadian gun owners by implying that we are not to be trusted with firearms. Liberals are the one's that insulted western Canadians time and time again.
NDP voters have never been the majority in Alberta. A majority is more than half. Be that as it may, they had the numbers to elect a majority government on election day, but they do not anymore, and they will never get elected again. It was a terrible accident. Just a taste of socialism...even without a budget (which is going to be a bloody mess), has even the most left wing Albertans running away from the dippers in droves.
If you want to see a government running this country into the ground, and trampling on law abiding citizens legal use of guns, then you don't deserve any respect. Simple as that.
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Well spoken Sir!
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10-19-2015, 07:26 AM
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What would be classified as an "assault weapon"? It all seemed pretty vague to me.
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10-19-2015, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by deerassassin
What would be classified as an "assault weapon"? It all seemed pretty vague to me.
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Winchester model 70, marlin 336, ruger No.1, Remington 760, Hoyt AlphaMax, Browning Citori, Estwing 22oz framing hammer, etc
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10-19-2015, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ruttnbuckcojack
If your a liberal nut move back east were your opinion might be appreciated. Because Liberals and NDP voters aren't welcome in Alberta.
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my only response to that is.
Alberta is now an Orange province. how would the NDP have won every seat if NDP voters are not welcome here.
Alberta's demographic has changed
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10-19-2015, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
And what's next bibles, and then...our grandfathers or in some case great grandfathers put a mad men to rest, it all got its start somewhere. Think about it.
Are tougher gun laws the answer? How about tougher on the criminal laws and let the rest of us go hunting right after a few good hangings...
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please read the platform in the link I posted. it doesn't say anything about taking away guns or making it harder to get them. I for one agree that we need more screening before giving people PALs and have a harder hunter and firearm safety courses.
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10-19-2015, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by deerassassin
What would be classified as an "assault weapon"? It all seemed pretty vague to me.
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The ones with mean looking black plastic I think. lol.
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10-19-2015, 07:46 AM
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I get it ..
Better screening ....so dog shooting Asians aren't allowed to own
Guns ....I'm all for that .....You don't have to yell I'm still not listening
To you
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10-19-2015, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntinfishinnstuff
my only response to that is.
Alberta is now an Orange province. how would the NDP have won every seat if NDP voters are not welcome here.
Alberta's demographic has changed
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Despite the extra large crayon you used the NDP did not win every seat in Alberta.
It was a fluke win. It will never happen again. Look at the numbers now... http://www.electionalmanac.com/ea/al...lection-polls/
If Jumpin Jim Prentice would have waited 4 months to call his super surprise election we would have a WR government...which we will in 2019.
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10-19-2015, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntinfishinnstuff
my only response to that is.
Alberta is now an Orange province. how would the NDP have won every seat if NDP voters are not welcome here
Alberta's demographic has changed
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Fixed it for you!
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10-19-2015, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by EZM
The ones with mean looking black plastic I think. lol.
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