Making Canadians safe

[brewster29]

Thank goodness. I feel much safer now knowing that criminals won't be able to buy, register and use legal firearms in the commission of crimes.

Meanwhile, the Libtard party circumvents the democratic process yet again. Their credibility has sunk to an even lower low...

Suggest the Libtards tackle the issue of gun smuggling through the secret stewards of the land channels in the St. Lawrence. Oops, guess it's no longer a secret...but I am certain they will never go near the real issue, or do anything real about gun crimes. They will just continue to cave to special interest groups, lie to the public, and demonize legal sportsmen.

They need to go.

[Puma]

Originally Posted by Puma

This was done by Liberal sneakiness. Not a firearm law but a change to the Federal import/export rules that allows the Minister to ban certain items from import / export. That's why they had Minister Jolie make the announcement, part of her portfolio.

I predict they will also direct CBSA to slow down to make sure anything incoming will be held up and then sent back post the August date.

n the meantime, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly said she has the authority to ban any import or export permit in Canada.

"Working with Marco, we came up with this idea of creating this new system of requiring permits," Joly said. "But meanwhile, we will deny any permits."

[mikefromcanmore]

Some Political Blog sites are now mentioning, either a Fall Election 2.0 or Supension of Parliament. Some Liberals think that the Conservative will be in disarray over the Leadership Election. This will also show to the Folks in the GTA that they got there backs on Gun Violence.Not like the Evil Conservatives holding up Bad Legislation in the House Hearings They had to run the plan through a loop hole that exists under NAFTA rules. For the Notification to Affected Parties south of the 49th.
ALWAYS be Aware that Bad or Controversial Laws or Policie Statements come from the Liberals on Fridays. So hoping that it runs out of traction by Monday .

[nelsonob1]

Thank the Lord they did this. If I bought any more restricted handguns I'd be looking at bankruptcy.

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

New restriction today by make us safe guberment. Effective Aug 19th now border closed to All handgun imports. Boy we all can sleep real well after that date.

[Athabasca1]

CTV interviewed Dianne Harnois from P&D in
Edmonton. To summarize her statements she said the import ban for handguns is total overreach and that Trudeau should step down. The same sentiment that licensed gun owners in Canada should have.

[58thecat]

It’s all about votes pure and simple no more no less.

JT is all about spray painting over the rust.....looks good but won’t last past a few months or so.

[brewster29]

I am done buying handguns. I now have a lifetime supply thanks to the Turd and co. I bought three since the end of May, to go with the pair I have owned since the 1980's.

I still watch my favourite vendors websites though...one sold out of all their semis (about 150 handguns on Friday morning) since yesterday!

I was thinking that laying in a large supply of ammunition would be wise. It might be next on the Turd's list of things to do to save the world.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by WildBillG

Cat you are wrong. This about government control over its people. What Truduea is doing is how all dictators start their eign. In fact Truuea is basically quiting Hitler word for word. Rember how that turned out for his people.
The UN is backing our cowardly leader. Remember they came to end the pesceful truckers protest. Where he had police wrongfully arresting the crowds and using force on them. Which by the way is illegal in Canada. He never did that when our natives blocked the rail lines. Why because they were armed so he let them protest and met with them.
We gun owners had better get some guts and not count on lawyers to play nice with our government. Each time we do we lose more of our freedoms. Please don't tell me we are not I have watched it. Politicians are lawyers too and all lawyers address each other friends not good for us.

But what he is doing is appealing to many which helps his cause which is to stay in power.
Come up with some bogus plan and paint it with a safer Canada is what he is doing.


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[AltaBorn]

Can this handgun ban be reversed with a new govt? Or is this really the end if you don’t have a handgun yet?

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by AltaBorn

Can this handgun ban be reversed with a new govt? Or is this really the end if you don’t have a handgun yet?

I'm sure it can be reversed. But there would have to be a political will to do so. And from what I have seen, no party (read Conservatives) have any will to reverse anything. Even the Honorable PM Harper only killed the long gun registry, but there was so much more he could have done to fix the messed up Firearms Act.

Politically, reversing bans that were about "public safety" is a losing proposition. We all know it is political theater, and we are just expedient scapegoats for the Liberals to win votes from urban moms because guns are scary. But don't think the CPC is going to save us. It's not impossible. Just highly unlikely. Look at how O'Toole threw that hot potato as far away as he could.

Anyway. I'd say expect the worst, act accordingly, and you won't be disappointed.

[AI 6.5]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

I'm sure it can be reversed. But there would have to be a political will to do so. And from what I have seen, no party (read Conservatives) have any will to reverse anything. Even the Honorable PM Harper only killed the long gun registry, but there was so much more he could have done to fix the messed up Firearms Act.

Politically, reversing bans that were about "public safety" is a losing proposition. We all know it is political theater, and we are just expedient scapegoats for the Liberals to win votes from urban moms because guns are scary. But don't think the CPC is going to save us. It's not impossible. Just highly unlikely. Look at how O'Toole threw that hot potato as far away as he could.

Anyway. I'd say expect the worst, act accordingly, and you won't be disappointed.

Agree 100%

[thumper]

Good - I hope that Trudeau does far more. The more outrageous the stupid laws and restrictions he comes up with, the more normal, law abiding people like me will simply ignore him.

[ganderblaster]

Originally Posted by Armorman

If these clowns can just arbitrarily take away your lawfully acquired property at the stroke of a pen then there's nothing stopping them from seizing bank accounts, farmland, your vehicles, etc. Truly dark days in this country. These scumbags need to be removed from office immediately. They're dangerous and cannot be trusted running our country anymore.

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The people received many warnings. Now here we are. Those who give up Liberty for temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty or Safety. Chickens are coming home to roost.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by ganderblaster

The people received many warnings. Now here we are. Those who give up Liberty for temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty or Safety. Chickens are coming home to roost.

The Handmaid's Tale....

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

I'm sure it can be reversed. But there would have to be a political will to do so. And from what I have seen, no party (read Conservatives) have any will to reverse anything. Even the Honorable PM Harper only killed the long gun registry, but there was so much more he could have done to fix the messed up Firearms Act.

Politically, reversing bans that were about "public safety" is a losing proposition. We all know it is political theater, and we are just expedient scapegoats for the Liberals to win votes from urban moms because guns are scary. But don't think the CPC is going to save us. It's not impossible. Just highly unlikely. Look at how O'Toole threw that hot potato as far away as he could.

Anyway. I'd say expect the worst, act accordingly, and you won't be disappointed.

Simply put; If YOU the electret do not support your member of parliament, and say YOU want change, then of course they will not tackle the hard questions. YOU are the answer not your politicians. BUT we as Canadians have forgotten this simple FACT!

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Simply put; If YOU the electret do not support your member of parliament, and say YOU want change, then of course they will not tackle the hard questions. YOU are the answer not your politicians. BUT we as Canadians have forgotten this simple FACT!

Good lecture.

I've got membership to the CPC, voted for new leader. I've written letters to MPs and PMO and Ministers. I have my MPs personal # and call and text with him. I vote in elections. I also have had memberships to the NFA and CCFR, and I've spent an inordinate amount of time and money challenging the OIC ban in provincial court and Queen's Bench on appeal.

Yes, we all need to participate in our democratic process.

And the majority seem to support our guns being banned and confiscated in the name of public safety. How does it feel to be a minority?

I suspect if your vote actually made any difference, they would ban voting too. But I do recommend everyone vote anyway.

You will have to forgive me if over the last 7 years or so I have lost all faith in the political process in Canada.

[6.5 shooter]

Perhaps I should have clarified "YOU" as meaning the gun community as a whole. Not at you personally my apologies.

Been in this fight for 40 years and sometimes I get a bit cranky with the, lack luster attitude of the shooting "fraternity" and their will to defend their sport.

Their is a reason the vocal minority Runs the world at the present moment. (Hint it is bold) FYI for those who choose to ignore the problem or feel it might just go away next election.

[ganderblaster]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

It’s all about votes pure and simple no more no less.

JT is all about spray painting over the rust.....looks good but won’t last past a few months or so.

I wish it was just about votes. They have the power. They don’t need votes. Since the two WEF Global Young Leaders Trudeau and jagmeet colluded they can do whatever they want. I feel it’s about agendas and ramming their ideas through while they can in my opinion.

If the gun owners cause a fuss they can just invoke the Emergencies Act again. They did a fantastic job of turning gun owners against gun owners and obfuscating the public while they gained control. I have no hand guns or “black guns” and have no plans to get any but I stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone defending rights.

“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me”

Freedoms are freedoms let’s not discriminate

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Perhaps I should have clarified "YOU" as meaning the gun community as a whole. Not at you personally my apologies.

Been in this fight for 40 years and sometimes I get a bit cranky with the, lack luster attitude of the shooting "fraternity" and their will to defend their sport.

Their is a reason the vocal minority Runs the world at the present moment. (Hint it is bold) FYI for those who choose to ignore the problem or feel it might just go away next election.

I completely agree with that. When the scary black guns got banned and they revoked (nullified) registration certificates, there should have been 80,000 owners who filed for a Section 74 Reference hearing. It would have crashed the court system, and got a lot of attention. Maybe they would have backed off. Instead, only about 300 of us filed, and we have been fighting Goliath pretty much alone and unsupported by the shooting community in general.

But, I'm going to see it through. Sooner or later it will end up in the Supreme Court. At least a tiny fraction of a percent stepped up to the plate.

It's pitiful. And gun owners want politicians to save us when they won't even stand up for themselves? Good luck with that.

[cody j]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Perhaps I should have clarified "YOU" as meaning the gun community as a whole. Not at you personally my apologies.

Been in this fight for 40 years and sometimes I get a bit cranky with the, lack luster attitude of the shooting "fraternity" and their will to defend their sport.

Their is a reason the vocal minority Runs the world at the present moment. (Hint it is bold) FYI for those who choose to ignore the problem or feel it might just go away next election.

The vocal minority is enabled by the silent majority. Apathy and complacency is everywhere

[CanaGun]

I personally strongly support the safer communities idea, but definitely not a handgun import ban or freeze later on.
All it does is making law-abiding PAL holders only access to handguns in Canada while gangs can still get them as they want. Left news like sharing the surge of handgun sales and shooting with them, but they don't identify how many of these were done by a PAL holder.

[morinj]

Originally Posted by heretohunt

The message is clear. The liberal government does not trust Canadian citizens to have guns.

Or are they worried that it’s the other way around, maybe they feel that Canadians are loosing trust in their government!

[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

NO words, But people kept telling you, but you said it could never happen,... here in Canada? Well some of you jumped for joy when the conservatives were defeated. So now you have the government you deserve, must make you feel so proud. Another giant leap for person kind into the abius of Socialism.

Exactly.

Two truths people don't seem to realize.

#1 - All laws can be changed, They are after all, just words on paper.
The only power a law has is that which the government wishes to give
it.

#2 - The majority realy do rule, if they wish to.

There are over 38 million Canadians. Of that only around 100,000 are police officers, another 97,000 are in the military, that's including cooks and nurses.
One could add the 300,000 or so government employees and you'd have areound 500,000 to in total against 37,500,000.
Giving us 60 to 1 odds in our favour, theoretically.

But of course in the real world the odds would be somewhat less.
Because not all government personelle would take the governments side if it came to a confrontation and not all non goverment people would back their neighbers. Some would side with the government.

Still, I think it's obvious who has the greater numbers.

Gun owners alone outnumber all government to the tune of 4,000,000 to 400,000 if government estimates are even close to correct.

But no one wants to put their lives on the line for their country that haven't already enrolled in the military.

So we grumble and complain until it's so bad that we are forced to act.

That is what history shows us in countless examples.

Have fun while it lasts, it's gonna get far worse.
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