22 Creedmoor Load data (place to share)

[markg]

Since this is such a new cartridge I thought I would make a thread for guys to share load data. Please post information about your load including the following:

Velocity Data (Average, Extreme Spread and Standard Deviation)
Powder Type & Powder Charge
Brass type
Primer type
Bullet brand and weight
Accuracy results (photos if possible)

If your so inclinded please share your rifle data as well including barrel length.

[markg]

Velocity Data:3345 FPS ES 28 SD 10
Powder Type & Powder Charge: 38gr H4350
Brass type: Alpha Munitions
Primer type: CCI BR2
Bullet brand and weight: Hornady ELD-M 75gr


Rifle is a Curtis Valor with a 26" IBI 1/8 twist heavy contour barrel

had a screen cap of the chrono data but didnt have any group photos. It was sub MOA 5 shots

[markg]

Velocity Data:3387 FPS Spread 9 SD 3
Powder Type & Powder Charge: 38gr H4350
Brass type: Alpha Munitions
Primer type: CCI Br 2
Bullet brand and weight:69gr Sierra Match King
Group size was 1/4 MOA

All rifle data same as above

This is a great load

[6MT]

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting...dmoor.6255624/

Mark, 22 pages of data since Feb 2017. The .22CM was introduced in 2013ish. It’s not really a new thing.

Your data looks nice.

[markg]

Great link thanks for sharing. Lots of good info there. As usual I am a day late and a dollar short!

[markg]

I have some 62gr ELD-VT I hope to try this month. I will post data when available

I am also going to try the 75 ELD-M with some H1000 should have that data by sunday.

[Smokinyotes]

If I had a 22 creed I’d probably try some 80gr+ bullets and see how they perform beyond a 1000.

[markg]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

If I had a 22 creed I’d probably try some 80gr+ bullets and see how they perform beyond a 1000.

I wish I still had some place to shoot out to 1000m! I think those 75gr would do it pretty nicely. The 80gr Bergers would be about perfect for that.

[Vigsy]

Good Stuff. Can't wait for EM to finish my new 22 creed up. Have some 62 eldvts, 80 eldxs and 88 eldms to try.

[markg]

Em Precision made this rifle too, been very happy with there work and there service.

[markg]

I tried some loads today with the H-1000 (44.3 / 44.6/ 44.9/ 45.1 grains) (No Pressure signs) and the Hornady 75gr ELD-M and it was horrible.
SD of 24
SD of 18
SD of 10

Some groups were 2.5 inches and 2 others over 3 inches.

This rifle does not like this load at all. Disappointing as I've heard this is a great powder for this cartridge. I can still shoot the 38gr of H4350 and the 75 ELD-M and it was an ok load.

Sadly the bullet I dont want to use (69 Match Kings) is the one that shoots the best. Typical!

[REMINGTON JIM]

Very Kool cartridge I have 2 of its Brothers 6 CM & the 6.5 CM
Hope fully get a 22 CM running too
What’s your rifle ? TWIST. ??

[waldedw]

Originally Posted by markg

I tried some loads today with the H-1000 (44.3 / 44.6/ 44.9/ 45.1 grains) (No Pressure signs) and the Hornady 75gr ELD-M and it was horrible.
SD of 24
SD of 18
SD of 10

Some groups were 2.5 inches and 2 others over 3 inches.

This rifle does not like this load at all. Disappointing as I've heard this is a great powder for this cartridge. I can still shoot the 38gr of H4350 and the 75 ELD-M and it was an ok load.

Sadly the bullet I dont want to use (69 Match Kings) is the one that shoots the best. Typical!

That's to bad Mark but it doesn't surprise me as H1000 is not good at all in my 6mm CM either, I'm stuck on IMR 4350.
The 22 CM tweaks my interest a bit but I have a 6mm CM that I can load down to 80 gr if I want lighter bullets, I have been thinking 22 CM but I have not yet bit the bullet so to speak.

[Davey Boy]

Mark Gordon's Reloading tool (GRT) lists the .22CM amoung its cartridges. Probably a great place to experiment with loads.

https://www.grtools.de/doku.php

[REMINGTON JIM]

Originally Posted by Vigsy

Good Stuff. Can't wait for EM to finish my new 22 creed up. Have some 62 eldvts, 80 eldxs and 88 eldms to try.

7 twist Or ? RJ

[6MT]

Mark, what are you seating those bullets at? What’s your jump?

[markg]

I am seating them at 2.630 I dont know what my jump is as I use the Hornady Coal Guage and dont have a dummy case cut yet.
(Alpha Brass is to expensive to sacrifice). When Hornady supplies some factory ammo up in Canada I will get one cut. I am bit clumsy with taking the bolt apart to do the Eric Cortina method where you remove the firing pin and just reduce the COAL until the bolt closes. I honestly dont trust myself to put it back together safely. I use a Trigger Tech diamond set very low so I am nervous that the sear engagement may not be right if I dont put the firing pin back properly. Dont want to have it do slam fires. I am not the handiest guy around and struggle a bit with puting stuff back together there always seems to be a part on the table when I reassemble things!

[6MT]

Originally Posted by markg

I am seating them at 2.630 I dont know what my jump is as I use the Hornady Coal Guage and dont have a dummy case cut yet.
(Alpha Brass is to expensive to sacrifice). When Hornady supplies some factory ammo up in Canada I will get one cut. I am bit clumsy with taking the bolt apart to do the Eric Cortina method where you remove the firing pin and just reduce the COAL until the bolt closes. I honestly dont trust myself to put it back together safely. I use a Trigger Tech diamond set very low so I am nervous that the sear engagement may not be right if I dont put the firing pin back properly. Dont want to have it do slam fires.

You need to get the Hornady tool to measure CBTO.

My starting point has always been a jump of .010”. From .22 cal right up to .50 cal. It’s worked for me. And the difference as you get closer to the lands is very noticeable. Of course, you sacrifice mag length as you get longer.

[markg]

Originally Posted by 6MT

You need to get the Hornady tool to measure CBTO.

My starting point has always been a jump of .010”. From .22 cal right up to .50 cal. It’s worked for me. And the difference as you get closer to the lands is very noticeable.

I have the tool just dont have any dummy brass. Im a bit OCD about having 100 bullets / 100 primers and 100 pieces of brass. Soooooo I am waiting for cheap factory ammo so I can sacrifice a case.

Honestly its one of the reasons I dont own a AMP anealler. Sacrificing good Lapua or Alpha brass to the Aztec mode would drive me squirrrley!!!

[markg]

Originally Posted by 6MT

You need to get the Hornady tool to measure CBTO.

My starting point has always been a jump of .010”. From .22 cal right up to .50 cal. It’s worked for me. And the difference as you get closer to the lands is very noticeable. Of course, you sacrifice mag length as you get longer.

I have some Hornady 6.5 Creed brass I could neck down and have a dummy case made! why didnt I think of that before!

[6MT]

Originally Posted by markg

I have the tool just dont have any dummy brass. Im a bit OCD about having 100 bullets / 100 primers and 100 pieces of brass. Soooooo I am waiting for cheap factory ammo so I can sacrifice a case.

Honestly its one of the reasons I dont own a AMP anealler. Sacrificing good Lapua or Alpha brass to the Aztec mode would drive me squirrrley!!!

Just buy a modified case.

[markg]

Originally Posted by 6MT

Just buy a modified case.

I thought they didnt have any as It just got saami approval this year, but looked it up on Hornadys site and its available. I will order one tonight if I can find one in Canada.

[Smokinyotes]

Don’t you guys find using the Hornady modified case if you take 10 readings you get 10 different results.

[Ackleyman]

Hey Mark , i think i have 10 or so brass Landkings left. ill give you one.

[markg]

Originally Posted by Ackleyman

Hey Mark , i think i have 10 or so brass Landkings left. ill give you one.

I just found one at XReload so I need to order it. Thanks so much for offering!

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by markg

Em Precision made this rifle too, been very happy with there work and there service.

Who and where is this EM Precision?

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by markg

I am seating them at 2.630 I dont know what my jump is as I use the Hornady Coal Guage and dont have a dummy case cut yet.
(Alpha Brass is to expensive to sacrifice). When Hornady supplies some factory ammo up in Canada I will get one cut. I am bit clumsy with taking the bolt apart to do the Eric Cortina method where you remove the firing pin and just reduce the COAL until the bolt closes. I honestly dont trust myself to put it back together safely. I use a Trigger Tech diamond set very low so I am nervous that the sear engagement may not be right if I dont put the firing pin back properly. Dont want to have it do slam fires. I am not the handiest guy around and struggle a bit with puting stuff back together there always seems to be a part on the table when I reassemble things!

There is an easy way to find the lands in a rifle. Put a bullet in a primer less and powder less case, leave it a little long. Remove bolt from rifle, push case into chamber and tap the end of case with your index finger a couple of times. Tilt rifle up and the case should not fall out, tap bullet from muzzle end with cleaning rod to dislodge it and seat bullet .005 deeper and redo and repeat until case falls out when rifle is tilted. From there take another case and prep the same way and seat bullet .005 out of case and repeat process but at .001 increments until case falls out. This is very accurate to find touch and very repeatable.

[markg]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Who and where is this EM Precision?

They are a company that build custom rifles in the Edmonton area. I live in the Calgary area but travel up there to deal with them. They do great work and are excellent to deal with. Heres a link to there website.

http://www.emprifles.ca/

[Vigsy]

Originally Posted by REMINGTON JIM

7 twist Or ? RJ

I went 8 twist 26" barrel for the 22 creed and 7 twist in the 25 creed barrel