yes these are factory loaded shells. they are hard going in and out of the chamber. after extracting the brass there is slight score marks on them, but nothing symetrical, kind of all over the place, some go all the way to the neck of the case, some only part way. checked bolt lugs, found identical score marks on the sides of the lugs, and looks like small pin holding extractor clip into end of bolts slightly protruding out. hmmmm... not using grease on bolt lugs, just oil.
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