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10-23-2018, 10:02 PM
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An Old Bighorn mount
I am not a sheep hunter but thought this old mount was worth sharing. A senior friend inherited this bighorn mount 50 years ago and at that time it was an old mount. The mount is probably from around 1920. The ears are really tired and bald on top. The dust on and in the cape is probably 80 years old.
Could a person age the ram using the pictures? Also wondering if it would be worth my friend getting a new cape and if a taxidermist would even have a cape? Are mature rams always broomed ? It would be nice if it wasn't broomed. I'm guessing the ram would score pretty good. Pretty heavy bases. Any guesses?
I will rough measure it next time I visit my friend.
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10-23-2018, 10:08 PM
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Ya he is a slob! I’m no epert but I would think he scores in the 190’s. Would be worth a remount for sure if you could find a cape
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10-23-2018, 10:13 PM
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Worth it for sure
I’ll take it off your hands if you don’t know what to do with it lol
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10-23-2018, 10:15 PM
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Nice ram definitely worth a new cape.
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10-23-2018, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
Worth it for sure
I’ll take it off your hands if you don’t know what to do with it lol
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You would want this old dusty varmint bitten thing? I thought he should cut up the horns to use them for backgammon pieces.
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This country was started by voyagers whose young lives were swept away by the currents of the rivers for ten cents a day... just for the vanity of the European's beaver hats. ~ Red Bullets
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10-23-2018, 11:15 PM
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For such an old mount it’s seriously well done and in good shape too. Are you sure it’s that old....1920’s that’s a hundred years
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10-23-2018, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by calgarychef
For such an old mount it’s seriously well done and in good shape too. Are you sure it’s that old....1920’s that’s a hundred years
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My friend inherited it back in the 60's and he said the ears were tired and hairless back then. The old timer that left it to him from shot it 40 or more years earlier.
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10-24-2018, 07:34 AM
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That ram is over 10 years old looks 11 years to me. My buddy has an early season cape for sale if you want PM me.
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10-24-2018, 07:43 AM
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I'd say eleven, capes can be bought.Probably a 200 inch ram. Let Dobson work his magic on it.
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10-24-2018, 07:47 AM
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Wow...just wow! Wonder how he would have looked without the brooming...he's a hog!
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10-24-2018, 07:50 AM
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For being that old that mount looks amazing. But for sure I'd get him redone
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10-24-2018, 08:48 AM
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Refresh that beast with a new cape and do a pedistal mount it’s a real treasure
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10-24-2018, 09:05 AM
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Absolutely beautiful ram!! Would be even more incredible with some fresh life from a new cape.
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10-24-2018, 10:11 AM
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Personally I'd leave it looking rugged and rough.. it's over 100 years old. There's beauty to appreciate in that.
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10-24-2018, 10:14 AM
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Newbie question. Whats brooming?
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10-24-2018, 10:52 AM
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I'd leave it alone. Maybe take it to a taxidermist and have it cleaned up. That is one tight curl. My guess is 12 -13 years old. Beauty of a sheep.
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10-24-2018, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave P
Newbie question. Whats brooming?
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Brooming is where the ends or tips of the horns have been worn off and no longer pointed.
Thanks for the feedback folks. I will be seeing what my friend is going to do with it. Renew it or leave it as is.
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Last edited by Red Bullets; 10-24-2018 at 12:52 PM.
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10-24-2018, 01:07 PM
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I think the worn look adds to the story of the animal.
No different that old antiques that carry more value by actually looking their age vs. polishing them up.
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10-24-2018, 01:48 PM
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Call me old fashioned, but it's a bit of history, leave it that way. Proviso is, they used arsenic for preservative long ago, might be a reason to redo it.
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10-24-2018, 07:07 PM
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So what is the bid starting at $5000.
I would really would like to know where it was shot
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10-24-2018, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
Proviso is, they used arsenic for preservative long ago, might be a reason to redo it.
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All he has to do is to resist the urge of licking the ram. I highly doubt that there would be any "airborne" arsenic emanating from a hundred year old mount.
I'd keep it in it's current condition if it were mine. You can always vacuum the dust out of it. Glue some of your personal hair onto the ears and presto!
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10-24-2018, 08:09 PM
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So what is the bid starting at $5000.
I would really would like to know where it was shot
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My guess on where it would have been shot is Alberta but it may have been shot in BC too. I can find out more about the story behind the ram if my friend knows.
I don't know that he would or could sell it. Registering it and waiting 3 years would most likely be the only way to sell it. I wonder what a ram like this would be worth in a fair bidding situation? I doubt they come on the market very often.
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10-24-2018, 09:16 PM
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I would clean it and leave it as others have suggested. A big part of its appeal to me is the age and history - treat it as you would any other rare antique.
Also, I think that aesthetically those well worn horns match the worn original cape extremely well and that would be lost forever. ( I am a bit romantic about these things)
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10-24-2018, 09:41 PM
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What an awesome ram. Thanks for posting
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10-25-2018, 05:20 AM
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Wow.. 200 plus for sure..
Quite the mount, very nice indeed
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10-25-2018, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Big bore dinosaur
Wow.. 200 plus for sure..
Quite the mount, very nice indeed
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Not many get to live that long these days. Hunting meant just that in the days of few roads, poor access and little interest in trophy hunting.
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10-25-2018, 10:16 AM
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That's a stud of a ram! Do you happen to have a picture from the front so we can see the overall width and flare of the horns?
Although I agree that it would be awesome to keep as is for the historical perspective, I think it would be an unreal mount to have it redone with a big ol' roman nose and fresh cape.
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10-25-2018, 04:50 PM
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If it is that old or older chances are it may have been taken around banff or Jasper. I am sure Jack O Conner even had his glass on him back in the day.
Might want to get him Measured and get him in a record book if not already in .
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10-25-2018, 04:54 PM
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Agree with "Moose River Trapper" it is 10 + years old.
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10-26-2018, 08:52 AM
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sheep
I would bet it was also shot with a lever action 30-30 or 32 special, needed to get close though.
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