How many small c concervatives are voting NDP this time around & are willing to admit it?

[orca1951]

if the NDP get into Alberta they will destroy business period (Oil and gas, small business , big business , farming and any other self motivated initiative )
Buy the time they get through with the regulating and controlling businesses will be dropping like flies. This is what they have done in every province they have been elected into. If the bleeding hearts don't believe that oil and gas will not pack up and take the golden goose home just wait. Saskatchewan will take every oil dollar they can get there hands on and run to the bank. Thankfully I am now retired and do not have to put up with a NDP government If they get in I am moving to Sask. with the oil and small business money. Any socialist communist out there can have what will be left of the province that I love and was born in,

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by Ricktye

Can you show us the section of their charter that says they have to follow the federal charter?? Thanks

ARTICLE XII
PROVINCIAL PARTIES
1. Each province of Canada shall have a fully
autonomous provincial Party, provided its
constitution and principles are not in conflict
with those of the Federal Party.

from the NDP constitution

http://xfer.ndp.ca/2013/constitution...TITUTION_E.pdf

[bison]

Originally Posted by airbornedeerhunter

Anyone who votes NDP provincially or federally should be flogged and then deported.

It's funny how fickle people are. The PC's have created an Alberta that was a shining star and a meal ticket for so many, jobs, prosperity, futures, money out the wazoo and all of a sudden the economy goes in the tank and people start thinking about voting for communists.

And tar and feathered,...maybe even castrated to prevent future generations from doing the same stupidity

[D4l3k]

I have always voted PC, but this time I will vote anyone BUT the PC

Although I would like to decline my ballot, because I don't like any of parties

That would be a waste of my time...

So maybe inny Minny miney Mo will be in order when I go vote (between WRP and NDP )

[schmedlap]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Have you ever lived under an NDP gov't?

When someone tells me not to beat the campfire out with my face.....again, I have to ask myself where he got those scars and if I should try it, 'just for a change"

When someone on here says vote NDP. Ask yourself , if they say that because they've experienced the wonderful work the NDP have done in other jurisdictions and are the best party to lead Alberta. Or is it because they are fed up with the status quo.

Sometimes a change is not as good as a rest.

I've said it before, I would crap in my hands and rub it in my hair before I would support the NDP.

A socialist party with zero experience in gov't and a slate of candidates who were signed simply to put a body on the ballot.
What are the credentials for these kids?

On the positive side, however, the ND's do take the position that we are all too stupid to know what is best for us and need their guidance in every aspect of our lives. So, I am quite sure we will have laws requiring all campfires to be posted with signs warning against putting one's face in contact, and all new toilet bowls will have labels discouraging the application of fecal material to hair. (the tag is for those who actually need such warnings).

[Taco]

Originally Posted by bison

And tar and feathered,...maybe even castrated to prevent future generations from doing the same stupidity

Als het is dat hatelijk kon je altijd terug te gaan Netherlander

[sns2]

Trust me guys, I know what I am and have voted all my life. I'm sure others on this thread do as well.

Anyhow, I did check out the WRP candidate in my riding. She worked at the bank, but then became a cop. I only mention that because in many posters' minds that would make her a public trough piggie like nurses, teachers, social workers etc... I don't know what qualifies her to be a politician anymore than anyone else. My point is that, and many may not agree, is that politics in Canada is a very strict hierarchy with the vast majority of decisions beginning and ending in the PMO or Office of the Premier, relegating backbenchers to the sidelines, thus most people are now voting for the leader as opposed to the MLA or MP. Prentass' cell # is likely on speed dial for the oil and gas & corporate elite. Brian Jean admires Prentass so much he gave him 10,000 after tax dollars, so to me that means more of the same. Further, I saw the list of large donors last campaign, and it seemed that most corporations hedged their bets by giving large donations to PC and WRP. Money is power and influence, and the same folks are hedging their bets which will be called either way.

Finally, the older I get, the more I soften and feel compassion for those who can't help themselves. That is part of being Canadian, and that label means more to me than my party affiliation. If that makes me, and a few others like me, communists in the eyes of many AO members, who the hell really cares? I sure don't. I would only recognize the faces of : Bobby B, Lefty Canuck, bulletman, Gitrdun, Duceman, and 260 Rem, if I were to run into them on the street. If we were honest, and mixed up the platforms of all the parties, without labelling where they came from, we would see that it's actually quite hard to put humans in a fairly narrow political box, like we often tend to do.

Anyhow, I am voting NDP and hope that it helps usher in a changing of the guard. As far as spending like drunken sailors, PCs own the championship in that regard, so I'm not real worried.

I just want a clean wind to blow through the legislature.

In any event, it will be interesting discussions on Wednesday.

Finally, I just wish people were adult enough to not blatantly say others are idiots and fools if we don't see the world the way exactly the way they do. The world would be an awfully boring place if we were all the same.

[msguns]

Originally Posted by sns2

Finally, I just wish people were adult enough to not blatantly say others are idiots and fools if we don't see the world the way exactly the way they do. The world would be an awfully boring place if we were all the same.

This. Those who vote should do so with an actual EDUCATED opion. And remember, it's still an opinion, so not everyone will agree even after looking at the same supposed 'facts' (which is a whole other conversation). The only time I think others are idiots and fools is when they don't do any homework for themselves. We throw around insults and assumptions way to easily these days.

As for voting NDP being a version of small c.... I can't bring myself to that conclusion.

[Matt_H]

Originally Posted by sns2

Finally, I just wish people were adult enough to not blatantly say others are idiots and fools if we don't see the world the way exactly the way they do. The world would be an awfully boring place if we were all the same.

x2

[JohninAB]

Originally Posted by Matt_H

x2

x3

[gbart]

Originally Posted by npbra

NDP are far from scandal free. Remember the NDP offices that are being funded by taxpayers federally. Now it is being reported that the NDP are allowing a Union to use their federal offices for free. And remember, all provincial NDP are governed by the Federal Party. Their constitution does not allow provincial NDP to deviate from the federal line. I have voted PC all my life, except for last election and this one. Wildrose is the only alternative.

X2^^

A very important fact laid out in your post.

Don't vote for the dirty socialists. The alternative is not so good, but having angry Tom meddling in Alberta's affairs will not be good.

[Dacotensis]

Originally Posted by martinnordegg

So Hal you are really just a F- in a windstorm..no direction no focus just beaking off and while on the company payroll...so if you have the balls who are you voting for? For me it is for THE PERSON who is representing me..PC is the best in our constinuency.

I'm pretty sure Hal bankrolls the company payroll.
Not sure, but pretty sure...

In my constituency the PC candidate will win.
I'd be really surprised if Cathy oleson didn't win this one.
She was a good mayor for strathcona county and she chaired the municipal development commitee for the edmonton area.
The WR candidate is annoying. For sure she will get more seats than last time though.
There is no liberal in our area.
The NDP candidate also wants to run for the federal party.
No. Sorry lady. Not a chance in strathcona county... Good for you for trying though

[From The Hip]

I have lived under the NDP presiding in BC and no thanks.The scandals such as "Bingo gate" and "Hydro gate" not to mention the shennanigans by Harcourt and the even worse offences under Glen Clark....kick back after kick back after kick back.

I swear if the NDP gets a majority or even a minority govenment I will sell my house and bugger off to Costa Rica and buy a fishing boat.After 6 months in power the NDP will decimate Alberta.Corporate taxes will get drastically raised(lost jobs) the energy royalties will get raised (lost jobs and the taps get shut off for exploration).At the same time lots of money gets spent on "socialist" measures.

I have seen the NDP drive BC into the coffin economically and I sure as hell pray that Alberta voters dont split the right wing vote enough for the NDP to put a choke hold on Alberta.

Best outcome for this election is a Wildrose minority government with the PC's being the opposition.

Come Wednesday morning I pray the NDP are not in charge as life in Alberta will go the same route as the USA when Obama got voted in....right down the toilet.

FTH

[brazeau]

Originally Posted by Sooner

Hoping it's WR over the Ndp but I am sure hearing a ton of support for the Ndp.

If it's true the Ndp are parachuting in candidates from out of province, well that is not right imo. I don't want a kid from Ontario or wherever making up the rules for me to live by here in Ab.

So, you'd rather have a lawyer, educated in a private university in Australia and born in B.C. making up the rules for you? If so, give Brian Jean your support!

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by sns2

Trust me guys, I know what I am and have voted all my life. I'm sure others on this thread do as well.

Anyhow, I did check out the WRP candidate in my riding. She worked at the bank, but then became a cop. I only mention that because in many posters' minds that would make her a public trough piggie like nurses, teachers, social workers etc... I don't know what qualifies her to be a politician anymore than anyone else. My point is that, and many may not agree, is that politics in Canada is a very strict hierarchy with the vast majority of decisions beginning and ending in the PMO or Office of the Premier, relegating backbenchers to the sidelines, thus most people are now voting for the leader as opposed to the MLA or MP. Prentass' cell # is likely on speed dial for the oil and gas & corporate elite. Brian Jean admires Prentass so much he gave him 10,000 after tax dollars, so to me that means more of the same. Further, I saw the list of large donors last campaign, and it seemed that most corporations hedged their bets by giving large donations to PC and WRP. Money is power and influence, and the same folks are hedging their bets which will be called either way.

Finally, the older I get, the more I soften and feel compassion for those who can't help themselves. That is part of being Canadian, and that label means more to me than my party affiliation. If that makes me, and a few others like me, communists in the eyes of many AO members, who the hell really cares? I sure don't. I would only recognize the faces of : Bobby B, Lefty Canuck, bulletman, Gitrdun, Duceman, and 260 Rem, if I were to run into them on the street. If we were honest, and mixed up the platforms of all the parties, without labelling where they came from, we would see that it's actually quite hard to put humans in a fairly narrow political box, like we often tend to do.

Anyhow, I am voting NDP and hope that it helps usher in a changing of the guard. As far as spending like drunken sailors, PCs own the championship in that regard, so I'm not real worried.

I just want a clean wind to blow through the legislature.

In any event, it will be interesting discussions on Wednesday.

Finally, I just wish people were adult enough to not blatantly say others are idiots and fools if we don't see the world the way exactly the way they do. The world would be an awfully boring place if we were all the same.

I'm with you sns2.

BW

[blackpheasant]

Originally Posted by From The Hip

I have lived under the NDP presiding in BC and no thanks.The scandals such as "Bingo gate" and "Hydro gate" not to mention the shennanigans by Harcourt and the even worse offences under Glen Clark....kick back after kick back after kick back.

I swear if the NDP gets a majority or even a minority govenment I will sell my house and bugger off to Costa Rica and buy a fishing boat.After 6 months in power the NDP will decimate Alberta.Corporate taxes will get drastically raised(lost jobs) the energy royalties will get raised (lost jobs and the taps get shut off for exploration).At the same time lots of money gets spent on "socialist" measures.

I have seen the NDP drive BC into the coffin economically and I sure as hell pray that Alberta voters dont split the right wing vote enough for the NDP to put a choke hold on Alberta.

Best outcome for this election is a Wildrose minority government with the PC's being the opposition.

Come Wednesday morning I pray the NDP are not in charge as life in Alberta will go the same route as the USA when Obama got voted in....right down the toilet.

FTH

I'm with you bud, if she gets the keys it's going to kill this Province, I'm a native Albertan and proud of it, what really sickens me is a lot of these NDP voters probably will head home back east leaving us holding the bag after this new Queen has done her deed..

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by martinnordegg

Yep, lots of beaking but no decision....certainly with your threads and posts you kind of have an idea...LOL.....well it's only Sunday and by Tuesday you may have it figured out..LOL..

Hey Marty by Tuesday it will be to late. Some of these posters are so arrogant and full of entitlement that they probably don't even vote! They hide behind their computer and promote fear mongering and scare tactics while not even understanding the issues that everyday Albertans face.

BW

[The Elkster]

An NDP win could most certainly be a disaster ....for the entrench white guy establishment that's made out like bandits for years. Can't blame some for being scared. The trough may be running dry and I would imagine that could be very scary. Sucks that someone else like the young might get a say too. terrible! Surely a sign of the apocalypse.

[sewerrat]

Originally Posted by Taco

Als het is dat hatelijk kon je altijd terug te gaan Netherlander

Nederland is ook niet zo geweldig.

[Albertacoyotecaller]

Originally Posted by blackpheasant

I'm with you bud, if she gets the keys it's going to kill this Province, I'm a native Albertan and proud of it, what really sickens me is a lot of these NDP voters probably will head home back east leaving us holding the bag after this new Queen has done her deed..

It's nothing to do with the easterners! I was at the range today volunteering and who didn't show up, the boys from here that are voting NDP. Entitlement is all they know.

We discussed it this morning briefly and a lot of people identified as voting NDP are gov workers. A lot of the others do not understand how the NDP work or understand their past performance in other provinces. Voting them in now will have long lasting effects for more than the next four years. You want change. Me too. But it starts with holding gov officials accountable for their actions and not just every few years at the ballot box. Every time they **** up, let them know! Every time there is a decision to make let them know what you want from them. This is an ongoing process that you can't be absent from. It's just like parental skills. They need to be applied all through the years!

[jmc]

I don't know how anyone could possibly look at B.C., Man, Sask(years previous) and think that NDP is a good idea. I laugh when people comment that things couldn't get worse. Are you sure about that?

[Taco]

Originally Posted by sewerrat

Nederland is ook niet zo geweldig.

Might be better than here according to Mr. Bison

[sakogreywolf]

[QUOTE=TROLLER;2821552]Can anyone come up with enough ndippers with any kind of qualification to run this province that is over 25?

Bet you cannot find more than a handful. Reminds one of the kids that were elected in Quebec cause they decided to vote orange.

If you lovers of the Edmonton group have your wish come true please do not come back here complaining when your company moves out of province or starts to lay people off because the union boys who are the real ndp are knocking on the door.

Be careful what you wish for.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

Originally Posted by orca1951

if the NDP get into Alberta they will destroy business period (Oil and gas, small business , big business , farming and any other self motivated initiative )Buy the time they get through with the regulating and controlling businesses will be dropping like flies. This is what they have done in every province they have been elected into. If the bleeding hearts don't believe that oil and gas will not pack up and take the golden goose home just wait. Saskatchewan will take every oil dollar they can get there hands on and run to the bank. Thankfully I am now retired and do not have to put up with a NDP government If they get in I am moving to Sask. with the oil and small business money. Any socialist communist out there can have what will be left of the province that I love and was born in,

Agreed.

Originally Posted by From The Hip

I have lived under the NDP presiding in BC and no thanks.The scandals such as "Bingo gate" and "Hydro gate" not to mention the shennanigans by Harcourt and the even worse offences under Glen Clark....kick back after kick back after kick back.

I swear if the NDP gets a majority or even a minority govenment I will sell my house and bugger off to Costa Rica and buy a fishing boat.After 6 months in power the NDP will decimate Alberta.Corporate taxes will get drastically raised(lost jobs) the energy royalties will get raised (lost jobs and the taps get shut off for exploration).At the same time lots of money gets spent on "socialist" measures.

I have seen the NDP drive BC into the coffin economically and I sure as hell pray that Alberta voters dont split the right wing vote enough for the NDP to put a choke hold on Alberta.

Best outcome for this election is a Wildrose minority government with the PC's being the opposition.

Come Wednesday morning I pray the NDP are not in charge as life in Alberta will go the same route as the USA when Obama got voted in....right down the toilet.

FTH

As well as Saskatchewan, which was stuck in the mud for decades while the NDP ruled. Manitoba.......still stuck. In Ontario, Bob Rae comes to mind. God help us if we vote in the NDP in Alberta.

[Albertacoyotecaller]

Oh those Rae days were the best. Courtesy of the NDP.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Albertacoyotecaller

It's nothing to do with the easterners! I was at the range today volunteering and who didn't show up, the boys from here that are voting NDP. Entitlement is all they know.

We discussed it this morning briefly and a lot of people identified as voting NDP are gov workers. A lot of the others do not understand how the NDP work or understand their past performance in other provinces. Voting them in now will have long lasting effects for more than the next four years. You want change. Me too. But it starts with holding gov officials accountable for their actions and not just every few years at the ballot box. Every time they **** up, let them know! Every time there is a decision to make let them know what you want from them. This is an ongoing process that you can't be absent from. It's just like parental skills. They need to be applied all through the years!

Well, yesterday at the range I talked to guys in the patch who are voting NDP because they too are sick of the corruption.

[From The Hip]

[QUOTE=sakogreywolf;2821831]

Originally Posted by TROLLER

Can anyone come up with enough ndippers with any kind of qualification to run this province that is over 25?

Bet you cannot find more than a handful. Reminds one of the kids that were elected in Quebec cause they decided to vote orange.

If you lovers of the Edmonton group have your wish come true please do not come back here complaining when your company moves out of province or starts to lay people off because the union boys who are the real ndp are knocking on the door.

Be careful what you wish for.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.



Agreed.



As well as Saskatchewan, which was stuck in the mud for decades while the NDP ruled. Manitoba.......still stuck. In Ontario, Bob Rae comes to mind. God help us if we vote in the NDP in Alberta.

When it comes down to it if the NDP form government we are pucked....maybe it wont be as bad if it is a minority government with say the WR as the opposition.If the NDP get a majority then we are well and truly pucked and it will take 10 years to dig Alberta out of that hole.

I voted WR as I want to see responsible change from what I percieve as a voter.The one thing I dont want to see is a total juxtaposition and voter shift towards a socialist provincial government that bleeds ALBERTANS dry and thinking that the NEP was a better choice.

FTH

[BlackHeart]

Originally Posted by blackpheasant

I'm with you bud, if she gets the keys it's going to kill this Province, I'm a native Albertan and proud of it, what really sickens me is a lot of these NDP voters probably will head home back east leaving us holding the bag after this new Queen has done her deed..

Make that three. If they get in, my home is going on the market right away. I am going to sell all my shares in AB/oil sands based corps, move all my financial assets out of reach of these jealous socialists.

But you know is what, I might even vote NDP, I'm so pizzed with the pure stupidity of those defending the NDPs ideas without trully looking into what they really stand for and their Bull S!!! numbers. What better punishment for ignorance than to reap the rewards of what you wish created.

In fact after 4 years of no jobs, destroyed economy, high taxes, rampant social programs and bloated govt departments, I can tell those supporters "Happy?!? No??! Not what you expected??!? Suck it up, you were warned.....and when are are you getting your crap out of the house that I just bought from the bank for 20% of its former value?"

[bison]

Originally Posted by Taco

Might be better than here according to Mr. Bison

Van my mogen ze dat kutland los steken en in zee douwen mr Tacobell

[Albertacoyotecaller]

Originally Posted by sns2

Well, yesterday at the range I talked to guys in the patch who are voting NDP because they too are sick of the corruption.

Sure I am sick of the corruption as well however you truly believe that the politicians and parties aren't cut from the same cloth. I am not voting For Prentice. I am voting the best of the worst.

I have been through the NDP days. I am here to tell you it's not going to be fun. It's going to have a long effect in this province and I am betting it's negative.

"Anything but conservative" campaigns are for the short sighted.

[play.soccer]

Vote wildrose if you want to change alberta for the better!