Ndp Alberta Gun Registry?

Suka · #1 04-26-2015, 07:30 AM

Was thinking about this, this morning. The ndp make no bones about being rabidly anti-gun. I could't find anything about policy on the Ab. ndp site, then remembered reading it's all one party so looked at the fed. site.

With Quebec wanting to start their own gun registry come hell or high water, why wouldn't a potential Alberta ndp gov't do the same in concert with Quebec?

Ricktye · #2 04-26-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Suka

Was thinking about this, this morning. The ndp make no bones about being rabidly anti-gun. I could't find anything about policy on the Ab. ndp site, then remembered reading it's all one party so looked at the fed. site.

With Quebec wanting to start their own gun registry come hell or high water, why wouldn't a potential Alberta ndp gov't do the same in concert with Quebec?

Although anything is possible, I believe its a completely different society and way of life here in Alberta compared to Quebec. Course you could find some diehard PC's using this train of thought to provoke fear mongering I suppose.

hal53 · #3 04-26-2015, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricktye

Although anything is possible, I believe its a completely different society and way of life here in Alberta compared to Quebec. Course you could find some diehard PC's using this train of thought to provoke fear mongering I suppose.

But... the NDP's support is largely with immigrants and city folk

Taco · #4 04-26-2015, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hal53

But... the NDP's support is largely with immigrants and city folk

and I'm guessing more than few progressively minded and POed PCs

hal53 · #5 04-26-2015, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco

and I'm guessing more than few progressively minded and POed PCs

'yup 'progressively' minded allright....

Ricktye · #6 04-26-2015, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hal53

But... the NDP's support is largely with immigrants and city folk

While I agree they seem to support a fairly liberal immigration policy (can it be any more liberal than it is now?) Alberta isn't an urban society as Ontario or Quebec are and I would think provincial parties would reflect this shift? Any party, I would hope, should reflect local values.

Interesting that Danielle Smith backed Rachel Notleys Gateway statement, or at least explained it was similar to the PC philosophy it seems.

http://www.albertandp.ca/danielle_sm...to_pc_campaign

Getting pretty cloudy out there....

Taco · #7 04-26-2015, 07:58 AM

Could be Hoss but if the so-called right side of the political spectrum can't get their GDed act together I'm battin' left for the first time in my friggin' life

hal53 · #8 04-26-2015, 07:59 AM

Remember what the NDP policy is towards the oilsands????

During the last Federal election, Layton flew over it (yup, flew over it) and said
"we must shut this down"....
I guess that is progressive thinking.......??

Ricktye · #9 04-26-2015, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco

Could be Hoss but if the so-called right side of the political spectrum can't get their GDed act together I'm battin' left for the first time in my friggin' life

I think you are stating the sentiments of a lot of us. I will not continue to support the PC's as they appear to be a lame duck party that will never again (or at least for a long time) have the trust or support of the people of Alberta. I too have never voted NDP, but Rachel seems to be the only real leader to emerge.... I don't think the Alberta Party or Liberals stand an honest chance and Wild Rose might be a bit disorganized. Running out of options, but PC's have to go if for no other reason than for the public to gain trust in their government again and that won't happen under two faced Prentice IMO....

Jperepeletza · #10 04-26-2015, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hal53

Remember what the NDP policy is towards the oilsands????

During the last Federal election, Layton flew over it (yup, flew over it) and said
"we must shut this down"....
I guess that is progressive thinking.......??

I finnaly choose one to vote for and you guys just made me change my mind again I am so confused who to vote for like if ndps are going to shut oil sands down and make gun registry uh who's left to vote for liberals??

Ricktye · #11 04-26-2015, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jperepeletza

I finnaly choose one to vote for and you guys just made me change my mind again I am so confused who to vote for like if ndps are going to shut oil sands down and make gun registry uh who's left to vote for liberals??

Careful. I don't see anything in their platform stating anything about a local gun registry or shutting down the oil sands projects. That was a member of this forum simply speculating and not fact, just his musings. Don't get caught up in PC fear mongering. They're counting on just that happening... Have to look through the smoke and mirror tricks...

Dick284 · #12 04-26-2015, 08:19 AM

The ND's will drive the oil patch into oblivion.
First by taxing the you know what's outta the corporations.
Then by jacking their royalties.
Then by instituting so many hoops and barriers that the cost of doing business will be like paying extortion money to the mob.
You think times are bad now!
It'll take oil being at $125/bbl to cause any interest in Alberta if they ever get in power.
Alberta will be so awash in red ink, but heh the trains will run on time.

hal53 · #13 04-26-2015, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricktye

Careful. I don't see anything in their platform stating anything about a local gun registry or shutting down the oil sands projects. That was a member of this forum simply speculating and not fact, just his musings. Don't get caught up in PC fear mongering. They're counting on just that happening... Have to look through the smoke and mirror tricks...

Don't think it's fear mongering when facts are stated???...do some research and place your vote carefully...

Jperepeletza · #14 04-26-2015, 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=Dick284;2813300]The ND's will drive the oil patch into oblivion.
First by taxing the you know what's outta the corporations.
Then by jacking their royalties.
Then by instituting so many hoops and barriers that the cost of doing business will be like paying extortion money to the mob.
You think times are bad now!
It'll take oil being at $125/bbl to cause any interest in Alberta if they ever get in power.
Alberta will be so awash in red ink, but heh the trains will run on time.

Well according to every poll out right now I better start looking for a rail road job and get out of the oil field since ndps are going to win this election it's looking like .

Ricktye · #15 04-26-2015, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hal53

Don't think it's fear mongering when facts are stated???...do some research and place your vote carefully...

What, you support the PC's? Good grief, maybe Prentice was right, you have to look in the mirror to see who's to blame for the mess.... LOL. I was really hoping that Albertans finally wised up, but maybe not? Oh well.... We get what we deserve.

Dick284 · #16 04-26-2015, 08:28 AM

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=252205

Post #5!

Dick284 · #17 04-26-2015, 08:29 AM

[QUOTE=Jperepeletza;2813305]

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Originally Posted by Dick284

The ND's will drive the oil patch into oblivion.
First by taxing the you know what's outta the corporations.
Then by jacking their royalties.
Then by instituting so many hoops and barriers that the cost of doing business will be like paying extortion money to the mob.
You think times are bad now!
It'll take oil being at $125/bbl to cause any interest in Alberta if they ever get in power.
Alberta will be so awash in red ink, but heh the trains will run on time.

Well according to every poll out right now I better start looking for a rail road job and get out of the oil field since ndps are going to win this election it's looking like .

Learn how to use the quote function!

Taco · #18 04-26-2015, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hal53

Remember what the NDP policy is towards the oilsands????

During the last Federal election, Layton flew over it (yup, flew over it) and said
"we must shut this down"....
I guess that is progressive thinking.......??

You boys need to learn to separate Provincial and Federal and don't give me the walks and quacks spiel.. both ducks yes but one's a blue winged teal t'other's a mallard.

hal53 · #19 04-26-2015, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricktye

What, you support the PC's? Good grief, maybe Prentice was right, you have to look in the mirror to see who's to blame for the mess.... LOL. I was really hoping that Albertans finally wised up, but maybe not? Oh well.... We get what we deserve.

FYI....I am not supporting the PC's....you better look in the mirror, all you can see is someone to look after you from cradle to grave on somebody else's dime...that is the NDP way...and it doesn't work..... sorry to tell you...

Dick284 · #20 04-26-2015, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricktye

What, you support the PC's? Good grief, maybe Prentice was right, you have to look in the mirror to see who's to blame for the mess.... LOL. I was really hoping that Albertans finally wised up, but maybe not? Oh well.... We get what we deserve.

You make this sound like a two horse race.

connexion123 · #21 04-26-2015, 08:34 AM

Disclaimer: Don't vote PC.

Any people here voting NDP or wanting them as a "change" needs to wake up. I and many others have lived with years of them. They will ruin this province.

Use logic. You're concerned about WR inexperience, what about ndp inexperience?

You will get "change" all right.

Hope you enjoy that change.

Ricktye · #22 04-26-2015, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hal53

FYI....I am not supporting the PC's....you better look in the mirror, all you can see is someone to look after you from cradle to grave on somebody else's dime...that is the NDP way...and it doesn't work..... sorry to tell you...

Sorry to disappoint you, but I have been in the workforce possibly longer than you have been alive and have never had to take advantage of any of the benefits such as UIC etc. Do I thing we should help the honestly less fortunate? Yup, and I would hope I'm not the only one.....

elkhunter11 · #23 04-26-2015, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

The ND's will drive the oil patch into oblivion.
First by taxing the you know what's outta the corporations.
Then by jacking their royalties.
Then by instituting so many hoops and barriers that the cost of doing business will be like paying extortion money to the mob.
You think times are bad now!
It'll take oil being at $125/bbl to cause any interest in Alberta if they ever get in power.
Alberta will be so awash in red ink, but heh the trains will run on time.

The oilsands companies have already made huge cutbacks because of low oil prices, including layoffs. If the NDP are elected, they will raise taxes and oil royalties which will result in more cutbacks and layoffs, and quite likely, some operations would close altogether resulting in massive layoffs. The entire Alberta economy would be devastated.

crownb · #24 04-26-2015, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

The ND's will drive the oil patch into oblivion.
First by taxing the you know what's outta the corporations.
Then by jacking their royalties.
Then by instituting so many hoops and barriers that the cost of doing business will be like paying extortion money to the mob.
You think times are bad now!
It'll take oil being at $125/bbl to cause any interest in Alberta if they ever get in power.
Alberta will be so awash in red ink, but heh the trains will run on time.

That is where you should be taxing, the big money corporations, not the mom and pops. The royalties are exactly that, royalties of alberta not the corporations. I am not sure who to vote for but I am tired of trusting the snake we all know, it's time to take a chance on a new snake!!!

The Cook · #25 04-26-2015, 08:37 AM

Pretty sure I got The Wife to vote WR instead of NDP. I Never thought it would come to this but the arrogant b****rds who have ruined this province for the regular working man and woman have to be removed from office. It's time to grow some stones and do just that.

Just one fool's opinion

connexion123 · #26 04-26-2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricktye

Sorry to disappoint you, but I have been in the workforce possibly longer than you have been alive and have never had to take advantage of any of the benefits such as UIC etc. Do I thing we should help the honestly less fortunate? Yup, and I would hope I'm not the only one.....

Dude, it works out to them catering to indians, poor whites, elderly and basically anyone but you because the will need those for their voting base.

In the last sask election, the ndp was going to the red phesant reserve by me with busses to take people to vote, then to drop them off in battleford at the casino.

Pretty much buying their vote...but not...

I don't want their tripe. They are LIARS like most politicians. You seriously think they'll live up to what they say?

hal53 · #27 04-26-2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricktye

Sorry to disappoint you, but I have been in the workforce possibly longer than you have been alive and have never had to take advantage of any of the benefits such as UIC etc. Do I thing we should help the honestly less fortunate? Yup, and hope I'm not the only one.....

Well...the first of Feb. marked 40 yrs. in the patch for me...do I win???....and I firmly believe in helping those who have a desire to help them selves

H380 · #28 04-26-2015, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricktye

I think you are stating the sentiments of a lot of us. I will not continue to support the PC's as they appear to be a lame duck party that will never again (or at least for a long time) have the trust or support of the people of Alberta. I too have never voted NDP, but Rachel seems to be the only real leader to emerge.... I don't think the Alberta Party or Liberals stand an honest chance and Wild Rose might be a bit disorganized. Running out of options, but PC's have to go if for no other reason than for the public to gain trust in their government again and that won't happen under two faced Prentice IMO....

Sorry but Rachel looks alot like the "red queen " we just got rid of ..

Dick284 · #29 04-26-2015, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by crownb

That is where you should be taxing, the big money corporations, not the mom and pops. The royalties are exactly that, royalties of alberta not the corporations. I am not sure who to vote for but I am tired of trusting the snake we all know, it's time to take a chance on a new snake!!!

And when you ain't got any work because the evil corporations pulled their stake in Alberta, what ya gonna do.
Nobody likes being taxed, that's a given.
But burdening a single sector to be benefit another, with zero consideration of the profound impact it has is folly.
So who here is for no tax increases to any sector?
Because only one party has such a policy.

crownb · #30 04-26-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

And when you ain't got any work because the evil corporations pulled their stake in Alberta, what ya gonna do.
Nobody likes being taxed, that's a given.
But burdening a single sector to be benefit another, with zero consideration of the profound impact it has is folly.
So who here is for no tax increases to any sector?
Because only one party has such a policy.

The oil is still here, alberta still holds the power, the corporations will moan and groan but they will suck it up and stay. In outdoorsman forum terms, if alberta held almost all the hunting opportunities in canada people would come from all over the country to hunt here. Times might get tough for the corporations but it's no different than any other business, make the proper moves and surge forward.