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Old 01-15-2022, 12:29 PM
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Default Is there a decent semi auto .223 non prohibited?

Something easily capable of sub moa accuracy.
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Old 01-15-2022, 12:44 PM
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Benelli MR1. But it is finicky with factory ammo. It really likes the federal fusion 62 grain. And it likes the Hornady 55 grain vmax
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Old 01-15-2022, 12:57 PM
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Benelli MR1. But it is finicky with factory ammo. It really likes the federal fusion 62 grain. And it likes the Hornady 55 grain vmax
I was looking at that one. Can you get pretty good accuracy? Does it want to jam on you in the field?
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Old 01-15-2022, 01:10 PM
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If it isn't prohib yet, it will be. So buy something sooner rather then later.
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Something easily capable of sub moa accuracy.
Kel-tec SU16

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Old 01-15-2022, 01:51 PM
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Default WK180C made in Canada

https://www.cabelas.ca/product/13931...emi-auto-rifle

Sub moa if you reload. The market is full of cheap .223 rounds that are inconsistent at best
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Sub moa if you reload. The market is full of cheap .223 rounds that are inconsistent at best
But, they are so ugly. Like, really really ugly. And so many guys are buying them, that they are going to be prohib too, guaranteed.
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Old 01-15-2022, 06:47 PM
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Forgive my ignorance but did the libtards finally ban the ruger mini 14 and 30?
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Old 01-15-2022, 06:52 PM
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Forgive my ignorance but did the libtards finally ban the ruger mini 14 and 30?
I think they did in the beginning with the black rifles

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They just don't know who has them

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I swear you could still find and buy them several years ago. ARs not so much. So stupid!
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:23 AM
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Not a semi, but over looked is the 7615. Alas they are only used and prices have gotten stupid. All my pumps have been sub moa without much trouble and my one 308 was sub moa with every load it was fed. It really liked Samson ball
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Old 01-16-2022, 09:03 AM
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I swear you could still find and buy them several years ago. ARs not so much. So stupid!
They were available up until the may 2020 oic ban.
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Old 01-16-2022, 09:11 AM
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I've been using my sks more since the ban. I load all my stripper clips and let her fly. It's still fun but after a few hundred rounds in a couple of minutes melted cosmoline is running everywhere and the whole area stinks so bad.

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Old 01-16-2022, 09:13 AM
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HK SL8 is another choice, have to find used or wait until importing again. With HK hard to tell when that will be. You will probably have to handload to get sub MOA.

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Old 01-16-2022, 11:14 AM
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What about the Kodiak WK180?
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Old 01-16-2022, 11:25 AM
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HK MODEL 630 in 223 ,HK SLB 2000 in 223 ,both hard to fine ,but there around and they are accurate. The HK MODEL 630 uses a HK 05 mount for the scope and there very hard to find. I had the whole set of them some 25 years ago, 22mag ,223, 308 ,3006. There where only 2 HK's in 243 if my memory is right imported in 1984 to America ,now that would be score.

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Old 01-16-2022, 11:50 AM
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There are a couple of WK180 options out there, some prettier than others, all in the crosshairs of PolySeSouvient
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Wk180c’s and WS-MCR are both non restricted and work well with good ammo but they still are not an AR.
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Old 01-16-2022, 08:24 PM
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Wk180c’s and WS-MCR are both non restricted and work well with good ammo but they still are not an AR.
Explain please.
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Old 01-16-2022, 10:27 PM
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Explain please.
The wk and ws MCR are based off the 180b platform. They utilize a different upper, a different lower different bolt carrier. The WK bolt operates on two guide rods where an AR bolt carrier rides on the slides in the upper. Wk’s aren’t light and feel ok in your hands until you handle an AR.
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:22 AM
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But, they are so ugly. Like, really really ugly. And so many guys are buying them, that they are going to be prohib too, guaranteed.
Not only are they ugly - if you ever get to handle one in real life they feel so utterly cheap and tinny it's stunning.
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Old 01-17-2022, 12:49 PM
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Why not the Tavor?

A little more spendy than the alternatives, perhaps. But at least you know it’s going to work.
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:54 PM
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https://www.cabelas.ca/product/10158...tactical-rifle
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P and d has a type 97 Gen 3 in stock
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Old 01-18-2022, 11:10 AM
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Benelli MR1. But it is finicky with factory ammo. It really likes the federal fusion 62 grain. And it likes the Hornady 55 grain vmax
I had one of these and they are a PITA to clean. Plus, they've been discontinued for a while so parts are hard to come by. Overall, with the pencil thin barrel and what you're actually getting for the $$, I would look elsewhere.

Oh, and don't be fooled by the magazines. They take STANAG not M16 magazines. Very very very picky on mags.
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Old 01-18-2022, 11:10 AM
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Why not the Tavor?

A little more spendy than the alternatives, perhaps. But at least you know it’s going to work.
Good choice, I love mine!!
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Old 01-18-2022, 11:28 AM
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The op wanted something that was capable of sub moa. About the only thing that I know of would be a modern varmint or modern sporter but I’m not sure if they are on the prohib list now or not.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:13 PM
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Basically, nope.

There are individual rifles, that will shoot sub moa with some particular load that their owner found (good luck with that experiment in the current ammo shortage) but those are the exceptions. Across the board you are looking at paying a lot for 1.5-2moa. This is not a new problem either. The only pre ban consistently sub moa NR semi auto was the ATRS, which is now prohib - lawsuit pending.

Keltec and MR1 are fine guns for killing…bigger/closer problems…but not really the solution for a coyote at 400 yards.
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