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Old 05-28-2010, 11:25 AM
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Energy kills I agree, I was looking at getting a nice 45/70 saddle gun for riding in the back country. I wanted to see how much energy it had for stopping power sorta speaking and found that a 190 grain .308 Win has practically the same ft/lbs of energy at 50 yards as a 45/70.

So with that in mind why do so many buy these rifles for bear protection when you could use something as small as a .308?
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:29 AM
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LOL...because energy doesn't kill. The .45/70 has considerably more frontal area on the bullet than the .308. It makes a big hole that does lots of damage. Big holes are very desirable in close range encounters with a bear.

If it was all about energy, a 25-06 would be a way better choice than a .45-70 but I know which one I'd rather be holding. But then again, I don't believe energy kills as well as big holes....

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Old 05-28-2010, 11:32 AM
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Same energy but way bigger hole. Plus if you shoot a 405 grain .45/70 hard cast bullet with a BHN rating of around 20, the destruction is way more than could ever be done with a .308 Winchester.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:25 PM
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Imagine getting hit with a golf ball vs a bowling ball at the same speed/energy. The bowling ball is gunna hurt a whole hell of alot more just because the affected area is larger.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:34 PM
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