|
|
01-20-2024, 07:00 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GP AB
Posts: 16,250
|
|
5 AJHL Teams Joining BCHL
This is a seismic shift for Alberta Jr Hockey. The 4 top teams just pulled the plug, I can't even imagine all the politics going on here. Wow.
https://everythinggp.com/2024/01/20/...mbers-of-bchl/
Going to sure make BC Junior hockey better, and better options for the players. Absolutely guts Alberta's Juniour hockey. With the league cancelling games for those 5 teams, has all the makings of a nasty divorce.
Sent from my SM-G990W2 using Tapatalk
__________________
'Once the monkeys learn they can vote themselves a banana, they'll never climb another tree.'. Robert Heinlein
'You can accomplish a lot more with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.' Al Capone
Last edited by Twisted Canuck; 01-20-2024 at 07:13 PM.
|
01-20-2024, 07:52 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2010
Location: edmonton
Posts: 3,853
|
|
Looking to bypass all those hockey Canada restrictions, opens more doors for the players .
|
01-20-2024, 08:12 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 251
|
|
Definitely have to do some research! Does do terminal damage to ajhl! Must be a good option though as some of the most prominent teams left. I always thought bc league wasn’t as good as ajhl? Maybe I am mistaken?
|
01-20-2024, 08:19 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Lloydminster
Posts: 4,523
|
|
That's a big hit to the AJHL
__________________
The problem we have today is that the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.
We were all born ignorant but one must work very hard to remain that way.
|
01-20-2024, 08:21 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GP AB
Posts: 16,250
|
|
Makes one wonder if the parade will continue?
I would love to be a fly on the wall. I hadn't heard a peep till the shoe dropped.
__________________
'Once the monkeys learn they can vote themselves a banana, they'll never climb another tree.'. Robert Heinlein
'You can accomplish a lot more with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.' Al Capone
|
01-20-2024, 08:57 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Edmonton Area
Posts: 4,103
|
|
Abcjhl????????
|
01-20-2024, 09:11 PM
|
Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Strathmore
Posts: 5,626
|
|
Hockey Canada been in a huge state of flux with the hush money fiasco. Be interesting to see if other junior leagues follow suit. One drawback for the club teams will be insurance mebbe
__________________
If you're not a Liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a Conservative when you're old, you have no brain. Winston Churchill
You can, you should, & if you're brave enough to start, you will. Stephen King
|
01-20-2024, 09:47 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Blackfalds
Posts: 6,952
|
|
I’m all for it.
The rules they have to play under are quite restrictive. This is a better option for fans and for the players themselves.
__________________
Trudeau and Biden sit to pee
|
01-20-2024, 09:55 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GP AB
Posts: 16,250
|
|
It reduces the AJ to Junior B league effectively.
A little more info:
https://theprovince.com/sports/hocke...eams-join-bchl
__________________
'Once the monkeys learn they can vote themselves a banana, they'll never climb another tree.'. Robert Heinlein
'You can accomplish a lot more with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.' Al Capone
Last edited by Twisted Canuck; 01-20-2024 at 10:31 PM.
|
01-21-2024, 12:04 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Blackfalds AB
Posts: 588
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
Makes one wonder if the parade will continue?
I would love to be a fly on the wall. I hadn't heard a peep till the shoe dropped.
|
From a reliable source” this was in the makings back in 2019 but Covid stalled it for a couple years.”
Quote:
Originally Posted by roper1
Hockey Canada been in a huge state of flux with the hush money fiasco. Be interesting to see if other junior leagues follow suit. One drawback for the club teams will be insurance mebbe
|
Insurance is a non issue. The BCHL has already been operating outside of Hockey Canada. Insurance is already in place.
Biggest change going forward will be the ability to recruit 16-17 year old players from out of province. Currently Hockey Canada requires kids that age to stay in their own province at that level.
I would also think you will start to see some European kids interested in playing college hockey.
With the AJHL essentially suspending the 5 teams announced today I think this will get messy. There’s a lot of revenue at stake for the remainder of this season. 4 of the 5 teams would be in the playoffs as well so I’m thinking lawyers will be involved by Monday.
Should be interesting.
|
01-21-2024, 09:03 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
Posts: 14,621
|
|
This is push back for how Hockey Canada has behaved and is behaving…..
Yes, the AJHL will hardly resemble Junior A as we know it going forward.
Interesting times for sure.
__________________
There are no absolutes
|
01-21-2024, 11:56 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,652
|
|
Whoever is left, welcome to the Jungle boys…
__________________
Death can have me..... when it earns it..
|
01-21-2024, 12:25 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SK
Posts: 832
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
This is push back for how Hockey Canada has behaved and is behaving…..
Yes, the AJHL will hardly resemble Junior A as we know it going forward.
Interesting times for sure.
|
People might think that, but severing ties with the CJHL, and eventually Hockey Canada was all about shaking free of the rules that were in place to promote some level of parity across the country. BCHL, as well as some of the affluent AJHL teams have been pushing for the ability to do as they please for about 10 years now and this is what it has come to.
|
01-21-2024, 12:27 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 1,436
|
|
Watched BCHL games for years when I lived in Vernon.
Only a few ever made it to the NHL.
What was most impressive however, was how getting an education was stressed. Many players received full ride scholarships to major U.S. colleges, including at least one I know of who got a full ride scholarship into a major medical school.
If joining the BCHL can equate to many of the AJHL kids getting scholarships and a good education, then it is a win-win.
Mr Conservation
__________________
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted" Jose Ortega y Gasset - Meditations on Hunting
|
01-21-2024, 01:57 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
Posts: 14,621
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Conservation
Watched BCHL games for years when I lived in Vernon.
Only a few ever made it to the NHL.
What was most impressive however, was how getting an education was stressed. Many players received full ride scholarships to major U.S. colleges, including at least one I know of who got a full ride scholarship into a major medical school.
If joining the BCHL can equate to many of the AJHL kids getting scholarships and a good education, then it is a win-win.
Mr Conservation
|
Lots of AJHL players getting full rides to NCAA schools, 4 of our past billets are playing or have rides to NCAA schools.
Another 4 went the ACAC route.
__________________
There are no absolutes
|
01-21-2024, 02:19 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Communist Capital of Alberta
Posts: 3,776
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
Lots of AJHL players getting full rides to NCAA schools, 4 of our past billets are playing or have rides to NCAA schools.
Another 4 went the ACAC route.
|
I know several as well, including my nephew.
Collegiate scouts look everywhere.
__________________
Social acceptance is NOT effective therapy.
|
01-21-2024, 03:42 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sherwood Park Ab
Posts: 6,283
|
|
__________________
An awful lot of big game was killed with the .30-06 including the big bears before everyone became affluent enough to own a rifle for every species of game they might hunt.
|
01-21-2024, 07:32 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GP AB
Posts: 16,250
|
|
__________________
'Once the monkeys learn they can vote themselves a banana, they'll never climb another tree.'. Robert Heinlein
'You can accomplish a lot more with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.' Al Capone
|
01-21-2024, 09:14 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 1,436
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
Lots of AJHL players getting full rides to NCAA schools, 4 of our past billets are playing or have rides to NCAA schools.
Another 4 went the ACAC route.
|
That's awesome !!
Mr Conservation
__________________
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted" Jose Ortega y Gasset - Meditations on Hunting
|
01-21-2024, 10:16 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SK
Posts: 832
|
|
An additional issue I haven't seen mentioned is Okotoks was the bid chosen for the 2025 Centennial Cup. This is typically a bit of a process, the chosen host is usually announced a little over 2 years prior to the even to allow ample time for planning and community prep. With them departing, the CJHL is having to go back to the drawing board and might be lucky to have a community lined up by this spring with barely a year to plan.
|
01-22-2024, 05:37 AM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,676
|
|
If they aren't leaving till 2024/0225, why are they canceling games this season? It kinda sounds like the league is being petty and may be worthy of leaving.
|
01-22-2024, 06:16 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: At the end of the Thirsty Beaver Trail, Pinsky lake, Alberta.
Posts: 24,623
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1899b
|
Must be some serious underlying issues at hand for these teams to just pull out with lots of hockey still to be played.
__________________
Be careful when you follow the masses, sometimes the "M" is silent...
|
01-22-2024, 07:17 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Lloydminster
Posts: 4,523
|
|
Lots of Politics
I have a grandson that has played in the SJHL the AJHL and is now in his last year of junior in the NOJHL, the business of junior hockey is a tough one with lot's of politics.
It sounds like politics is at play here between the teams and the AJHL / Hockey Canada, my understanding from a private source close to the AJHL is that once the AJHL found out those teams were planning to leave and join the BCHL after this season they immediately cancelled games for those 5 teams, my guess would be to flex their muscles and say well if your leaving us next year we will just toast the rest of this year for you. It is also my understanding that this was not to become public knowledge until the end of this season, not sure why the BCHL put out the notification to the AJHL, sounds like someone may have jumped the gun a bit.
Either way it has thrown the AJHL into turmoil and I am sure these 5 teams are not alone, more teams will follow which will almost certainly spell the end of the AJHL. As for the 11 teams that are left in the AJHL well lots of restructuring for the balance of this season, what happens to the points for games played against those 5 teams, how are the playoffs going to be determined and structured and what is our future etc.
I feel for the players on those 5 teams that are in their last year of junior hockey, it is wiped out and is a tough way to end their junior careers.
Anyway that's just the scoop I got, unconfirmed and unpublished but sounds to be somewhat legit and have some validity, lot's of stories circulating and lot's more will come out in the days to come.
__________________
The problem we have today is that the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.
We were all born ignorant but one must work very hard to remain that way.
|
01-23-2024, 10:20 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 16
|
|
That's one way to stop Brooks from winning the Natty this year.
|
01-24-2024, 08:03 AM
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: North of Redmonton
Posts: 1,607
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by timsid1
That's one way to stop Brooks from winning the Natty this year.
|
They won't breeze into the Centennial Cup anymore. They'll face a much more competitive and grinding schedule throughout the season in the BCHL and have to defeat the Vees to even make it to the Fred Page Cup final.
But yeah...they might not even get the chance this year. I wouldn't shed a tear though. Without looking at their website, I'd imagine every kid on the Bandits is already committed to a Div 1 school.
|
01-24-2024, 10:24 AM
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,193
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbertanGP
They won't breeze into the Centennial Cup anymore. They'll face a much more competitive and grinding schedule throughout the season in the BCHL and have to defeat the Vees to even make it to the Fred Page Cup final.
But yeah...they might not even get the chance this year. I wouldn't shed a tear though. Without looking at their website, I'd imagine every kid on the Bandits is already committed to a Div 1 school.
|
I didnt think the BCHL could participate in the centennial cup anymore as it is a hockey Canada championship.
|
01-26-2024, 04:37 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GP AB
Posts: 16,250
|
|
Wait, what? Now they aren't leaving the AJHL? Let the speculation begin...
https://everythinggp.com/2024/01/26/...-to-join-bchl/
__________________
'Once the monkeys learn they can vote themselves a banana, they'll never climb another tree.'. Robert Heinlein
'You can accomplish a lot more with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.' Al Capone
|
01-26-2024, 04:59 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Westerose
Posts: 4,079
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
|
I think not leaving the AJHL this season would be the intent of their words.
ARG
__________________
In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjemac
It has been scientifically proven that a 308 round will not leave your property -- they essentially fall dead at the fence line. But a 38 round, when fired from a handgun, will of its own accord leave your property and destroy any small schools nearby.
|
|
01-26-2024, 05:43 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GP AB
Posts: 16,250
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher
I think not leaving the AJHL this season would be the intent of their words.
ARG
|
It's wordplay. BCHL says they have come to terms, the 5 teams say they haven't signed anything...yet.
__________________
'Once the monkeys learn they can vote themselves a banana, they'll never climb another tree.'. Robert Heinlein
'You can accomplish a lot more with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.' Al Capone
|
01-26-2024, 06:25 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
Posts: 14,621
|
|
Damage control 101
Somebody let the cat out of the bag before the AJHL season ended, and now the denials are flying……
Wanna wager that the AJHL’s Lawyers were tasked with levying breech of contract and conduct fines against the 5 franchises listed? And when that was in the mix, the franchises did an about face!
__________________
There are no absolutes
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:13 AM.
|