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05-22-2020, 02:52 PM
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Fire ban?
Is it reasonable to expect that the fire ban will be lifted based on things greening up and all of the precipitation we’re seeing now?
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05-22-2020, 02:56 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Nope. This fire ban will continue through out the summer. Precipitation wasn't a factor considered when it was implemented.
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05-22-2020, 03:15 PM
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They even mentioned it has nothing to do with moisture. It is about the firefighter and covid that they are concerned about and nothing to do with the weather at least at this point. Who knows if it dries out it could be weather related as well.
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05-22-2020, 03:32 PM
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Heard Jason Kenny explain the fire ban. He said Alberta doesn't have enough firefighters and the had an agreement with Australia, New Zealand, Mexico to bring firefighters here other years but this year because of covid-19 that wouldn't be possible. Buy a propane fire pit as backup.
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05-22-2020, 03:42 PM
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Kenney cuts.... but he sure did help out his corporate buddies.
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05-22-2020, 06:50 PM
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Location: West Central Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ESOXangler
Kenney cuts.... but he sure did help out his corporate buddies.
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Nothing to do with Kenney cuts.
A lot to do with trying to establish a fire camp/action a fire (especially a human caused fire) while maintaining social distancing protocols due to Covid 19.
A lot to due with the lack of resources that would be available if a campaign fire needed to be actioned . A lot of jurisdictions will not be exporting firefighters to other jurisdictions as in years past due to Covid 19.
Last edited by JohninAB; 05-22-2020 at 06:56 PM.
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05-22-2020, 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ESOXangler
Kenney cuts.... but he sure did help out his corporate buddies.
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wat??
Are you implying that Kenney making cuts caused the fire bans?
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05-22-2020, 03:47 PM
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Location: Edmonton
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If true, and the Province intends to maintain the ban all summer regardless of the conditions then I suppose I'll have to take my chances with a fine. I'm not someone who would normally disregard a fire ban, but this is silly and I don't accept "because Covid" as reasonable justification.
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05-22-2020, 03:58 PM
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Location: Alberta for the most part
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Good thing I checked with environment to ask about the fire ban, no open fires but my titanium stove in my tent would be ok if the damper is used, I also like to burn my food packages to keep the bears away, happy backcountry hikes
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05-22-2020, 04:14 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ehrgeiz
If true, and the Province intends to maintain the ban all summer regardless of the conditions then I suppose I'll have to take my chances with a fine. I'm not someone who would normally disregard a fire ban, but this is silly and I don't accept "because Covid" as reasonable justification.
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Costco, among others, sells propane substitutes. It's a substantial fine and that plume of smoke and the smell might bring the law down on you.
Grizz
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05-23-2020, 06:43 AM
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Location: Claresholm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ehrgeiz
If true, and the Province intends to maintain the ban all summer regardless of the conditions then I suppose I'll have to take my chances with a fine. I'm not someone who would normally disregard a fire ban, but this is silly and I don't accept "because Covid" as reasonable justification.
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Your ENTITLED to have your fire. Fines are $600-$100,000. And you get to pay for the cost of fighting a fire that you cause.
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05-23-2020, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ehrgeiz
If true, and the Province intends to maintain the ban all summer regardless of the conditions then I suppose I'll have to take my chances with a fine. I'm not someone who would normally disregard a fire ban, but this is silly and I don't accept "because Covid" as reasonable justification.
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How about “because of extreme budgetary pressures” rather than Covid directly, even though it does have a definite trickle-down effect. I certainly clued into the fact that when the current economic and pandemic factors combined into a perfect storm where there is both massive unemployment and reduced gov’t revenue due to the unemployment combined with oil revenues being way down, that some cost-cutting measures would be tabled. All those vehicles you didn’t see in traffic for the last two months? That’s a lot of fuel tax not collected. The tens of thousands at home while their employers are shuttered, same thing. We always ask for lower taxes and fewer gov’t employees, but you can’t handle not having a fire? I’m gonna call you out on selfishness and obliviousness.
It’s going to be a longer road to economic recovery if people insist on going about their business as usual for what are really very minor inconveniences asked of them.
Think of WWII, there was food rationing (everything rationing for that matter) and scrap metal drives. Peoples dedication and community/national spirit absolutely helped forge our way to victory. Today we get “But, but, muh campfire!”
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05-22-2020, 07:01 PM
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Common sense and democracy have been cancelled due to Covid19 . Try again next year.
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