North Saskatchewan Region plan – Bighorn Backcountry Areas - Land use planning - potential closures / reduced access - Y2Y agenda

[Albertadiver]

The Alpine Club of Canada is noting that there is a good possibility of more restrictions being placed on backcountry access for the Clearwater / Ram PLUZ, Job/Cline etc. They are concerned about even hiking access to get to various climbing locations etc. This is not to mention the restriction of OHV’s likely coming as well.

The proposed NSRP may potentially affect access for recreational use in the Bighorn Backcountry, where many of our Albertan section members practice low impact, self-propelled recreation. It may also affect access for other user groups who recreate in the Bighorn. At this time, the ACC is seeking to document our member’s use of the area so that we can contribute positively and concretely to any future consultation processes about recreation in the Bighorn.

http://www.alpineclubofcanada.ca/blo...n-backcountry/

The alpine club is generally very well informed on environmental issues and have a pretty respectable track record of mixing access with being sustainable. For example, their network of ACC huts in the backcountry is a great service and opportunity for those that are able to access these places.

If ACC is concerned about the regional plan, perhaps other outdoors enthusiasts might want to take a look as well.

http://aep.alberta.ca/recreation-pub...ap-Jul2017.pdf

https://landuse.alberta.ca/RegionalP...s/default.aspx


Looks like what happened down south in the Castle is going to happen here as well. Don’t just take my word for it, but have a read at the attached links. Note that the ‘Alberta Wilderness Association’ is behind a lot of this. If you read their position statements, this will tell you what you need to know about their thoughts on hunting, trapping, and fishing. They want OHV’s banned in areas they deem to be ‘prime protection and critical wildlife zones.’

The attached map shows these 'prime protection areas' that they've designated.

https://albertawilderness.ca/issues/...on-statements/

[albertadave]

Thanks for posting this AD. You are 100% correct, this thing is very real, and likely going to happen. These 'tree huggers' are gaining traction, and definitely have the ear of the current government. Y2Y is heavily involved as well. Anybody ever heard of them? It's pretty telling when even a group like ACC is concerned. It's also sad to see a thread like this get no interest on a board full of "outdoorsmen", the same guys that will be saying "how could this have happened?" "where can I ride my quad?" when it does. Far too much apathy. Now get back to talking about religion and gas prices everyone.

[Newview01]

That's impossible! So many people, right here on this forum, promised it wouldn't happen. I don't believe it.

[Albertadiver]

Originally Posted by albertadave

Thanks for posting this AD. You are 100% correct, this thing is very real, and likely going to happen. These 'tree huggers' are gaining traction, and definitely have the ear of the current government. Y2Y is heavily involved as well. Anybody ever heard of them? It's pretty telling when even a group like ACC is concerned. It's also sad to see a thread like this get no interest on a board full of "outdoorsmen", the same guys that will be saying "how could this have happened?" "where can I ride my quad?" when it does. Far too much apathy. Now get back to talking about religion and gas prices everyone.

I didn't include the Y2Y links because often times when I reference them on here I'm called an alarmist or conspiracy theorist. That said, for your reference....

http://www.reddeeradvocate.com/news/...roups-unhappy/

https://y2y.net/work/what-hot-projec...-regional-plan

After all of the Castle discussions I think folks are fairly well set in their opinions so haven't bothered to post on this issue. The reason I posted it is that I know there are lots of folks that read AO, but don't necessarily post, so I think it's worth noting so that people can see for themselves about what is going to happen.

I know for myself, I'm going to adjust my plans to spend some time in that area in the next year, because I doubt after that I'll be able to back country random camp or access some of these areas. (I'm not an OHV user BTW)

[Albertadiver]

Originally Posted by albertadave

It's pretty telling when even a group like ACC is concerned.

This ^^

[Don_Parsons]

Yuppers, times is a changing.

We seen these documents 30 some years ago "by mistake."

I didn't post any information on it since the writing was on the wall in 1978 ish,,, the major draft to this came in 2001/2 if I recall.

All land use activists will change my friends, it's just the way it is since Canadians them selves don't have the final say.

I wish it wasn't this way, but what's a person to do.
Bow hunting in Kananaskis is also under a review since a request to ban it has been submitted just lately.

Shannon Phillips office is soon to look into it.

Don

[3blade]

Where's bighorn river aka Kevin Van Tighem to tell us this is all about conservation and we should be thankful?

More Banff!! More Banff!! We need more Banff!!!!

Shannon Phillips and her Y2Y buddies are going into high gear before the election.

[lead chucker]

Wait for it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,told you so.

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by 3blade

Where's bighorn river aka Kevin Van Tighem to tell us this is all about conservation and we should be thankful?

More Banff!! More Banff!! We need more Banff!!!!

Shannon Phillips and her Y2Y buddies are going into high gear before the election.

He will be along shortly I’m sure. He’s busy right now working on trying to get wolf hunting and trapping shut down across Alberta.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by 3blade

Where's bighorn river aka Kevin Van Tighem to tell us this is all about conservation and we should be thankful?

My skin crawls when I hear that name

[Freddy]

Ghost Provincial Recreation Areas
Stakeholder Workshop
WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU!
Alberta Parks is undertaking planning to improve and update the Ghost-Waiparous Provincial Recreation Areas (PRAs). Your input will help us redesign PRAs to inspire and celebrate the unique recreational opportunities of the Ghost.
DATE: LOCATION:
TIME:
January 13, 2017
Cochrane Toyota - Community Room (8 River Heights Drive)
8:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. Motorized Recreation Groups
1 p.m. - 5 p.m. Non-motorized recreation and environmental groups
RSVP with the names of 1-2 representatives from your organization. Refreshments and food will be provided.
For further information email: kananaskis.projects@gov.ab.ca
Ghost Provincial Recreation Areas | Stakeholder Workshop


Was a stake holder meeting. 2 meetings, one in the morning for motorized users and the afternoon meeting was for environmental groups and ngo,s. Ironic there was a environmental group disguised and a hunting and fishing group.
To get invited you would of got your name in at an above mentioned walkin presentation or been involved previously as a stake holder to attend or be a member of a stakeholder group and you are the deligate.
There was representation from af&ga. I was there for a motorized group.
There will be more open door meetings coming up and if you want in send a request email that is above.

[Albertadiver]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Ghost Provincial Recreation Areas
Stakeholder Workshop
WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU!
Alberta Parks is undertaking planning to improve and update the Ghost-Waiparous Provincial Recreation Areas (PRAs). Your input will help us redesign PRAs to inspire and celebrate the unique recreational opportunities of the Ghost.
DATE: LOCATION:
TIME:
January 13, 2017
Cochrane Toyota - Community Room (8 River Heights Drive)
8:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. Motorized Recreation Groups
1 p.m. - 5 p.m. Non-motorized recreation and environmental groups
RSVP with the names of 1-2 representatives from your organization. Refreshments and food will be provided.
For further information email: kananaskis.projects@gov.ab.ca
Ghost Provincial Recreation Areas | Stakeholder Workshop


Was a stake holder meeting. 2 meetings, one in the morning for motorized users and the afternoon meeting was for environmental groups and ngo,s. Ironic there was a environmental group disguised and a hunting and fishing group.
To get invited you would of got your name in at an above mentioned walkin presentation or been involved previously as a stake holder to attend or be a member of a stakeholder group and you are the deligate.
There was representation from af&ga. I was there for a motorized group.
There will be more open door meetings coming up and if you want in send a request email that is above.

So you have to be a member of an 'organization' to attend and 1 or 2 people allowed to attend. Joe public not welcome?

[Albertadiver]

And more blatantly incorrect propaganda for those that don’t know the facts.

[Rumour]

When I moved to Alberta a few years ago, I fished Jasper national park almost exclusively , I found access to be restrictive to hiking and long distances having to be crossed for direct access to prime fishing spots as well as the regulations being very confusing with almost every watershed having different restrictions and opening and closing dates .

but I discovered the foothills around the bighorn and eastern slopes I found my access to be plentiful and easy while still staying on roads and low impact trails I found I could more quickly and easily access the lands and trails responsibly and respectfully which in turn allowed me to truly have access to the land.

to often I found bodies of water and streams that we're breathtaking to be restricted in a national park. I felt as if parks Canada guided me in a certain way and the true beauty of the land was lost in that sense of " do not enter or access requiring Parks Canada permission.

[Albertadiver]

Here’s an opportunity for someone in NE Alberta.

http://www.ab-conservation.com/about/careers/pal/

[Guide5689]

We need more national parks so they can be infiltrated with foreigners to enjoy the landscapes. Instead of the ppl who live here and want to enjoy their own backcountry.


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