Shutdown

[MyAlberta]

Very interesting. Looks like Schumer has the upper hand. How can Don spin this when he comes back to the table. The man behind the ‘art of the deal’ is getting a lesson in real negotiating.

[MyAlberta]

I’m thinking the Don is under house arrest. Wouldn’t be surprised if Kelly is conducting a military coup at this moment.

[hal53]

never mind......

[67ZL1]

Hmmm, you guys must not be following Q on Reddit? The next few weeks are going to be pretty entertaining... once the FISA Memo is released to the public heads are gonna roll, lol.

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by 67ZL1

Hmmm, you guys must not be following Q on Reddit? The next few weeks are going to be pretty entertaining... once the FISA Memo is released to the public heads are gonna roll, lol.

It’s pretty scary the new found power of corruption.

[cschache]

The whole reason behind the shut down is that the democrats want to attach DACA and other illegal immigration pieces to the government spending bill and the republicans want to have a clean spending bill with no added ear pieces to keep the government open for business. It is all simply politics and who can pressure who to get what they want, its all about who has the most leverage to get what they want. In actuality the so called shut down only affects approx. 17% of non essential government workers, the other 83% still gets paid but is deferred until the situation is resolved. Depending on your beliefs and which party your loyalty lie there are positives and negatives on both sides.

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by cschache

The whole reason behind the shut down is that the democrats want to attach DACA and other illegal immigration pieces to the government spending bill and the republicans want to have a clean spending bill with no added ear pieces to keep the government open for business. It is all simply politics and who can pressure who to get what they want, its all about who has the most leverage to get what they want. In actuality the so called shut down only affects approx. 17% of non essential government workers, the other 83% still gets paid but is deferred until the situation is resolved. Depending on your beliefs and which party your loyalty lie there are positives and negatives on both sides.

The way I read it is that Don wants funding for the wall, and the dems are countering with DACA. Kelly has tried to minmalize the wall component. ‘The memo’ is a thrust to discredit the FBI

[play.soccer]

Originally Posted by 67ZL1

Hmmm, you guys must not be following Q on Reddit? The next few weeks are going to be pretty entertaining... once the FISA Memo is released to the public heads are gonna roll, lol.

I can't wait!!!!

[cschache]

Originally Posted by MyAlberta

The way I read it is that Don wants funding for the wall, and the dems are countering with DACA. Kelly has tried to minmalize the wall component. ‘The memo’ is a thrust to discredit the FBI

"The Memo"? are you referring to all of the FISA/dossier information? If half the information brought to light about the corruption in the politicized FBI of the past 8 plus years then I would have to think that some high level people will be in trouble.

[79ford]

Its funny, they were running half trillion dollar deficits under obama now trump is spending and cutting taxes at the same time. I think they will have to borrow over a trillion per year or more now just to keep the lights on

[67ZL1]

Originally Posted by 79ford

Its funny, they were running half trillion dollar deficits under obama now trump is spending and cutting taxes at the same time. I think they will have to borrow over a trillion per year or more now just to keep the lights on

You mean budgets don’t balance themselves?

[cschache]

Originally Posted by 79ford

Its funny, they were running half trillion dollar deficits under obama now trump is spending and cutting taxes at the same time. I think they will have to borrow over a trillion per year or more now just to keep the lights on

From what I understand by cutting all the government regulations, cutting taxes and repatriating over seas billions/trillion from companies at a one time low tax to be invested in the US will create HUGE growth with in turn creates more taxable money to the government at a lower percent which is supposed to cover the spending of the government and from what I have read could possibly start to pay down their debt. time will tell.

[lmtada]

Was hoping this was about a Canada government shutdown.

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by cschache

From what I understand by cutting all the government regulations, cutting taxes and repatriating over seas billions/trillion from companies at a one time low tax to be invested in the US will create HUGE growth with in turn creates more taxable money to the government at a lower percent which is supposed to cover the spending of the government and from what I have read could possibly start to pay down their debt. time will tell.

I wonder, if an American semiconductor manufacturer acquires a German fabrication plant, and continues to employ the German workforce, is that American jobs that will be brought home?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by lmtada

Was hoping this was about a Canada government shutdown.

Our government hasn't worked for us for a couple of years now.

[play.soccer]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Our government hasn't worked for us for a couple of years now.

Lol!

[chasingtail]

Good time to permanently shut down parts of the Government. Fire the 83% of Non-essential personal for good.

[TBark]

I thought by the thread title u were gunna ask for fitters, insulators and such, ha,

TBark

[The Cook]

Originally Posted by lmtada

Was hoping this was about a Canada government shutdown.

I believe the government in Ottawa is still on X-Mas break so in a way we are shutdown.

[79ford]

Originally Posted by cschache

From what I understand by cutting all the government regulations, cutting taxes and repatriating over seas billions/trillion from companies at a one time low tax to be invested in the US will create HUGE growth with in turn creates more taxable money to the government at a lower percent which is supposed to cover the spending of the government and from what I have read could possibly start to pay down their debt. time will tell.

When you have to borrow trillions over the course of a few years to pay for tax cuts you arent really cutting taxes, just shifting burden. If the government had a surplus or something then cut taxes i could see that being positive on both sides

[dowierjp]

Originally Posted by 79ford

When you have to borrow trillions over the course of a few years to pay for tax cuts you arent really cutting taxes, just shifting burden. If the government had a surplus or something then cut taxes i could see that being positive on both sides

You can cut taxes by stopping the distribution of taxes payers dollars to things like aid to Pakistan and the UN and stopping that global warming hoax. Americans are already starting to see bigger pay checks. The man can't fix their deficit in one year or four but putting the money back in American workers pockets is never a bad thing.

[79ford]

Originally Posted by dowierjp

You can cut taxes by stopping the distribution of taxes payers dollars to things like aid to Pakistan and the UN and stopping that global warming hoax. Americans are already starting to see bigger pay checks. The man can't fix their deficit in one year or four but putting the money back in American workers pockets is never a bad thing.

Yeah but whenever the government borrows money it is really the taxpayer going further into debt.

Government borrows 100$ to give a 100$ tax break, pays interest at 3% for ten years soo 30% of the original tax break. Government has to pay to implement the changes and administer the debt, pays 100$ back.

When the government pays the 100$ back, who do they take that from? The same guy that got the break, lol

Unless a tax break is paid for in cash it is just borrowing money from everyones future paycheque or just co tinously grinding the nation further into debt.

The united states is a 21 trillion and counting

[SlightlyDistracting]

Originally Posted by MyAlberta

I’m thinking the Don is under house arrest. Wouldn’t be surprised if Kelly is conducting a military coup at this moment.

Lmao. Really?

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by 79ford

Yeah but whenever the government borrows money it is really the taxpayer going further into debt.

Government borrows 100$ to give a 100$ tax break, pays interest at 3% for ten years soo 30% of the original tax break. Government has to pay to implement the changes and administer the debt, pays 100$ back.

When the government pays the 100$ back, who do they take that from? The same guy that got the break, lol

Unless a tax break is paid for in cash it is just borrowing money from everyones future paycheque or just co tinously grinding the nation further into debt.

The united states is a 21 trillion and counting

I don't think you understand the point there. Americans want their tax dollars going towards their own country, not some ****hole halfway around the world.

[jstubbs]

Originally Posted by 79ford

When you have to borrow trillions over the course of a few years to pay for tax cuts you arent really cutting taxes, just shifting burden. If the government had a surplus or something then cut taxes i could see that being positive on both sides

At this rate, even some economists will tell you that the United State's debt is just a fun number to look at, and that nobody is really certain what is going to happen if the USA just continues to ramp up their debt load with continued massive trillion dollar deficits. Who is going to force them to pay their debts? Nobody, not China, not anybody. We're all just witnessing the world's most ridiculous economic case study. Continue borrowing as much as possible within limits of continuing reasonable growth and keep oil traded in USD and inflation will never catch them.

[79ford]

Originally Posted by jstubbs

At this rate, even some economists will tell you that the United State's debt is just a fun number to look at, and that nobody is really certain what is going to happen if the USA just continues to ramp up their debt load with continued massive trillion dollar deficits. Who is going to force them to pay their debts? Nobody, not China, not anybody. We're all just witnessing the world's most ridiculous economic case study. Continue borrowing as much as possible within limits of continuing reasonable growth and keep oil traded in USD and inflation will never catch them.

The tax just gets shifted into the future....look how many taxes we pay compared to a long time ago

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by cschache

From what I understand by cutting all the government regulations, cutting taxes and repatriating over seas billions/trillion from companies at a one time low tax to be invested in the US will create HUGE growth with in turn creates more taxable money to the government at a lower percent which is supposed to cover the spending of the government and from what I have read could possibly start to pay down their debt. time will tell.

Take a look at what happened when Kansas tried this at a state level, it got ugly fast.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway.../#17f9cd155508

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by midgetwaiter

Take a look at what happened when Kansas tried this at a state level, it got ugly fast.

Tell us more...

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Tell us more...

It’s pretty clear at this point that nobody here can tell you anything. Have a look at the link I added though, I do look forward to seeing how you’re going to argue Forbes is run by a bunch of commies.

[wags]

Originally Posted by midgetwaiter

It’s pretty clear at this point that nobody here can tell you anything. Have a look at the link I added though, I do look forward to seeing how you’re going to argue Forbes is run by a bunch of commies.

LOL

*mic drop*