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03-08-2012, 03:34 PM
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Lynx Study
Does anyone know what happened to the lynx study that was done in the Nordegg area? I have been watching the website and there is nothing new or any posted results, update etc..
It would be interesting to know how it turned out.
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03-10-2012, 10:33 AM
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I bet Mark Boyce can update us. As wildlife chair at U of A he's in the loop for most wildlife studies. I will ask him if he knows anything and perhaps it would be a good topic for his column
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03-11-2012, 07:35 AM
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That would be great. Thanks!
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03-11-2012, 12:49 PM
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not much need for a study....wolves displace coyotes,marten are targeted almost exclusively on traplines,rabbit numbers stay high,lynx numbers remain high. in some areas trappers are not bothering to trap lynx. they have become a wasted resource in some areas, there are houndsmen who would like to spend their dollars in the pursuit of them. to put it into perspective i would be willing to foot the cost of a lynx tag upto 200.00 per year. not to mention the other spin off dollars that it would generate to the local communities. just food for thought.
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03-12-2012, 07:51 AM
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NH - wow we can wrap all that expensive research now. You've saved society millions in research dollars. Perhaps though lynx cycles are influenced by forces outside of man?
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03-12-2012, 08:15 AM
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What trapper does not bother to target lynx if they have them on their line? Most valuable pelt out there becoming a wasted resource?
Come on NH if you want a lynx so bad become a trapper or go to B.C. and chase one with dogs.
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03-12-2012, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bullgetter
What trapper does not bother to target lynx if they have them on their line? Most valuable pelt out there becoming a wasted resource?
Come on NH if you want a lynx so bad become a trapper or go to B.C. and chase one with dogs.
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Most valuable pelt out there? I think you better re-check the fur prices.
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03-12-2012, 08:42 AM
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N. H. ? He's just a self-serving troll.
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03-12-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by houndsmen
Most valuable pelt out there? I think you better re-check the fur prices.
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O.K. wolverine gets better but you only get 1 of those. I average over $100 every year on cats. Can't say that about anything else.
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03-12-2012, 03:15 PM
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Cats averaged $140 in the last auction... now why wouldn't a trapper target them if he has them on his line. Don't quite understand your post NH?
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03-12-2012, 03:29 PM
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i don't know if a lynx study is needed anywhere, the place i've been working up north for the last three years has what you could call an infestation with them. you literally can not go 200 yards without seeing 2 or three of them anywhere any day. its great to see them and i'll not mention the area or the wagon burners would be in there killing them off for fun!
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03-12-2012, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Miskosky
Cats averaged $140 in the last auction... now why wouldn't a trapper target them if he has them on his line. Don't quite understand your post NH?
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i don't know why a trapper wouldn't target them,perhaps the line is a burden and they only trap along the road for marten and squirrel. perhaps they have abandoned the trapping area. i just don't know. but what i do know is the cats are there and they are not being harvested,that's a wasted resource.
yes i am a houndsman,yes i want to pursue lynx and i am willing to pay a pretty good price for that priviledge. i would venture a guess that those dollars would be welcomed by SRD,because if they aren't managing the resource,they must be interested in making money.
was never good at math,say 1000 tags a year @ 200 a pop, pretty lucrative.
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03-12-2012, 03:43 PM
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how much does that 140 cat put into the SRD coffers?
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03-12-2012, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya
how much does that 140 cat put into the SRD coffers?
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That goes to the trapper, who put in alot of effort and time to catch it.
The $200 you would pay for a tag is a drop in a bucket compared to what the trapper pays for a line, cabin, and supplies. Time to get a trapline N.H. , it will put some reality into your way of thinking.
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03-12-2012, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jim summit
That goes to the trapper, who put in alot of effort and time to catch it.
The $200 you would pay for a tag is a drop in a bucket compared to what the trapper pays for a line, cabin, and supplies. Time to get a trapline N.H. , it will put some reality into your way of thinking.
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indeed,often thought that i should try an sign on as a junior trapper and hunt the lynx. not sure of the legalties of it though. are trappers restricted to a certain method of catching lynx? if they saw one sitting on the trail could they not just shoot it as one would do with hounds.
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03-13-2012, 06:56 AM
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mrs, there was a lynx study done in the Nordegg area. The Biologist spent a couple years conducting the field research and I am interested to see what data and conclusions came out of it.
Brian has offered to ask Dr. Boyce to see what has transpired.
NH seems to have a problem with trappers. I would suggest he forward his lynx hunting with dogs idea in the form of a proposal through the Alberta Fish and Game Association to put forward to SRD as a resolution.
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03-14-2012, 05:04 PM
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Nordegg lynx project
Gabby Yates is a Ph.D. student working on lynx. Her fieldwork in the Nordegg area is complete, and she is in the thick of analysis and writing. About 50% of the genetics work is complete and she is preparing the remaining samples for analysis now. The first batch of samples suggested that the lynx are remarkably well mixed meaning that dispersal is substantial and the entire population of Alberta is one large population. Our suspicion is that some of the southern populations in the Rocky Mountains might be distinct so she has focused the current analysis on southern traplines in Alberta and BC. But given the lynx that was caught last year in Nordegg that had dispersed from SW Colorado, I'll be surprised if she finds much genetic structure.
She has completed some work on population cycles, and I was pleased to see that the cycles are strong and consistent from about Rochester, Alberta north. And that's the way that it has always been. Much has been written about how the lynx-hare cycle is diminishing, but we see no evidence of this.
She also has some nice radiotelemetry data and she has begun analysis of those data but she hasn't told me much that appears very surprising yet. But she has much work to do yet.
Gabby was ill last spring and summer. She is back in the saddle, but her illness slowed her progress.
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03-14-2012, 05:30 PM
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This study is fairly new to me but thank you for the update!
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03-14-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nait Hadya
not much need for a study....wolves displace coyotes,marten are targeted almost exclusively on traplines,rabbit numbers stay high,lynx numbers remain high. in some areas trappers are not bothering to trap lynx. they have become a wasted resource in some areas, there are houndsmen who would like to spend their dollars in the pursuit of them. to put it into perspective i would be willing to foot the cost of a lynx tag upto 200.00 per year. not to mention the other spin off dollars that it would generate to the local communities. just food for thought.
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I'm with you on that bud i would also love to get out and run some!!
I don't have any prob with them being trapped would just like more opp. to run the dogs
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03-14-2012, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nait Hadya
indeed,often thought that i should try an sign on as a junior trapper and hunt the lynx. not sure of the legalties of it though. are trappers restricted to a certain method of catching lynx? if they saw one sitting on the trail could they not just shoot it as one would do with hounds.
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Seems to be a few hound guys in alberta that own lines and run other things besides cougar. Fisher,bobcat and lynx.
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03-14-2012, 10:54 PM
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nice to hear the lynx cycles are still in place. A vital part of the northern boreal
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03-15-2012, 07:49 AM
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Thanks for the update! Interesting information. When the final reports are done I look forward to reading them.
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03-15-2012, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim summit
That goes to the trapper, who put in alot of effort and time to catch it.
The $200 you would pay for a tag is a drop in a bucket compared to what the trapper pays for a line, cabin, and supplies. Time to get a trapline N.H. , it will put some reality into your way of thinking.
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How much of the price for a line is paid to the government?
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03-15-2012, 01:10 PM
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A reasonable investment of $30,000 for the whole deal, now remember most are more, 5% GOVT sales tax =.......$1500.00 Now back to the Lynx study, thanks for the update Beaver.
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