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Old 08-11-2018, 12:44 PM
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Got a little excited a few days back and purchased a gunwerks barrelled action.
Iíve never built a rifle and besides swapping trigger, crowning barrels, and basic gun maintenance Iím inexperienced. I just couldnít say no after a few beer lol.

Iím looking at different stocks on line and am wondering what peopleís experiences are with McMillan and proof research.

TriggerTech trigger or stick with the reliable Timney?

Hinged floor-plate bottom metal? Trying to stay as light as possible. Is anyone aware of a company manufacturing with Titanium?

This will be a build that is completed over a few years. I am building an heirloom rifle. Any advise would be appreciated.


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Old 08-11-2018, 01:01 PM
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I went through a process to build a rifle off a factory model 7 as it was the lightest factory build I could find in tons off research. Check out a wildcat composites stock . It will add to the overall process, but it is that much more of an accomplishment when it is completed. I got to pick a custom paint job, fit the barreled action, bed it, install and fit recoil pad . While some of my work was not 100 percent, it was a huge learning curve, and I will know way more on the next one. I had a bunch of machining done on the bolt, and swapped out everything I could for lightweight components. Scoped I am under 7 pounds for a 300 SAUM.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:35 PM
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Iíd go with a manners stock
The new elite lines are pretty nice
Proof research barrels are hard to beat
Iíve had a few timber triggers but my gunwerks has a trigger tech and itís super smooth
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:57 PM
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The nice thing about doing a custom is that you get to build it how you want.

Trigger, I'm a big fan of the TriggerTech. They have a couple different models now depending on the use of the rifle.

Stock, see if you can find someone local that has what you're looking at. They are such a personal feel. If you get the wrong one, it will sour the experience. If you get the right one it just may feel like an extension of your own arm.
If you are looking at weight, go blind magazine. I am partial to a hinged plate although my newest rifle has a box magazine, the Kimber Hunter. And they are know to be some of the lightest rifles around.there are some lighter, but not many.
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:14 PM
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I went through a process to build a rifle off a factory model 7 as it was the lightest factory build I could find in tons off research. Check out a wildcat composites stock . It will add to the overall process, but it is that much more of an accomplishment when it is completed. I got to pick a custom paint job, fit the barreled action, bed it, install and fit recoil pad . While some of my work was not 100 percent, it was a huge learning curve, and I will know way more on the next one. I had a bunch of machining done on the bolt, and swapped out everything I could for lightweight components. Scoped I am under 7 pounds for a 300 SAUM.
Not to highjack a thread or anything but D Eagle, I just bought a barrelled action stainless in 300 SAUM. Iím excited but it has to be on the back burner till spring. But Iíll be buying a wild cat composite stock as well.

I agree with getting a stock from wildcat composites as well, great guy to deal with. As of bottom metal, I donít know what you should do. What caliber of rifle and whatís the main purpose of the gun?
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:59 PM
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I've owned Manners, McMillan, Browns, Rimrock/Pacific Research, Bansner, Pendleton, b&c and Wildcat. I think all of them are good stocks but if I want super stuff, though and light I'd go with a Wildcat. If you want it pretty, get Mitch Kendall to finish it.

If money is no option then get a Brown pounder. It's over twice the cost for the blank over Wildcat.
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Old 08-12-2018, 03:42 PM
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I went through a process to build a rifle off a factory model 7 as it was the lightest factory build I could find in tons off research. Check out a wildcat composites stock . It will add to the overall process, but it is that much more of an accomplishment when it is completed. I got to pick a custom paint job, fit the barreled action, bed it, install and fit recoil pad . While some of my work was not 100 percent, it was a huge learning curve, and I will know way more on the next one. I had a bunch of machining done on the bolt, and swapped out everything I could for lightweight components. Scoped I am under 7 pounds for a 300 SAUM.


Sounds like a nice rifle.
I will be calling wildcat when I receive the action. I am trying to use as much local talent to finish the build. I almost regret getting gunwerks to build the barrelled action but you canít deny their craftsmanship.
My goal is to have a rifle under 7 pounds once Iím complete. This one is coming in 280AI with a 22Ē fluted sportster contoured barrel. Hopefully I will be able to reach my goal.
Thanks for the advise.


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Old 08-13-2018, 06:05 AM
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Id go with a McMillan or Manners carbon fiber stock. I like my one Wildcat stock but it was inletted poorly and was a TON OF WORK to make it right. Then by the time I got it Hydro dipped I think I could of bought a McMillan or Manners for the same cost as the Wildcat. Triggers you can't go wrong with either listed. Also depends on your shooting style. If shooting prone I personally like more of a vertical grip like on a Game scout or Game Hunter or the Manners EH1.
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Old 08-13-2018, 06:26 AM
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Congrats on getting a gun you really like. My vote is McMillan.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:14 AM
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McMillan builds a great stock but be prepared to wait 6 months to a year if your ordering a custom colour one, Ive had a Cpl dozen rifles built and by all accounts a Wildcat is as good as it gets if your wanting a lightweight and tough stock, two week wait time and made right in Alberta, Stu at Wildcat is excellent to deal with.

Nice thing about a Wildcat Stock is they are easy to alter IE-cheekpiece, palm swell or high comb, from two of the gunsmiths I use they say best built lightweight stocks made.

Shoulder a bunch of rifles with different stocks that have a cheekpiece, high comb, straight comb, and be sure on your LOP for quick and comfortable shouldering of your rifle if you have to make a quick shot, nothing worse than a custom rifle that doesn't fit you.

I hear great things about trigger tech triggers but haven't used one yet, I really like Timney Calvin Elite triggers but not necessary for a hunting rifle, standard Timney is fine, I also have a Jewel trigger in my 28 Nosler and its a nice trigger but still prefer the TCE over it.

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Old 08-13-2018, 11:20 AM
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I have a couple Mpi's, a wildcat and a couple B&C's. I really like my MPI's and they only weigh a pound
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:51 PM
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The last McMillan A5 stock I ordered was ordered in February and showed up in July and cost me $1360. Next stock I buy will be a Wildcat composite
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Old 08-13-2018, 08:21 PM
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Done a few builds now. McMillan makes a great product and they look nice but the cost+cad conversion/production time+import time is just not worth it. Plenty of other products to choose from. Iíve used Timney triggers and jewelled triggers, IMO the Jewell trigger is better. But the timney is also fantastic save the money get the timney itís still going to be 10/10 cost to performance timney is where itís at. I have not tried trigger tech. Thereís a machine shop in Edmonton that build floor plates i canít remember the name Iíll have to look through my notes maybe one of the other members knows?
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Old 08-14-2018, 01:43 AM
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Id go with a McMillan or Manners carbon fiber stock. I like my one Wildcat stock but it was inletted poorly and was a TON OF WORK to make it right. Then by the time I got it Hydro dipped I think I could of bought a McMillan or Manners for the same cost as the Wildcat. Triggers you can't go wrong with either listed. Also depends on your shooting style. If shooting prone I personally like more of a vertical grip like on a Game scout or Game Hunter or the Manners EH1.
Uh, Wildcats aren't inletted, they are semi inletted and need to be finished. Never had one be a lot of work.

A standard Manners or McMillan is 1k now. If you paid that for a Wildcat to be finished and dipped you got hosed good.
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Old 08-14-2018, 06:14 AM
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Yeah I'd say very "Semi Inletted". Dremel was working overtime on this stock. No I didn't pay $1K for the Wildcat. The quality control just wasn't there on this stock maybe. Barrel channel was crooked, bolt handle slot didn't line up, Had to remove a ton of material to get the floor plate to fit etc. I did all the work myself and it took hours. Maybe I'm to fussy but I have never had to do anything to my Mcmillans. As said WildCat has awesome customer service, but I wish they had more variety/models to choose from.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:16 PM
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Mcmillan has huge selection. These days manners carbon fibre is one of the best in finish.
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