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Old 11-06-2022, 09:14 AM
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Ok so keep reading posts saying” this is why the NDP will get in” and it’s always because of something the UCP has done they don’t like or they believe the UCP is responsible for not because of something the NDP will do to improve Alberta

So to all of those who keep saying they are going to vote NDP out of anger towards the UCP please post what the NDP brings to the table that will benefit Alberta. Not interested in well “the UCP did this or Smith said this” only what you believe the NDP actually will do to improve Alberta

No talking crap on this thread and using it as a UCP vs NDP battle just straight up honest things you think the NDP will improve

I just want to understand the rationality
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Ok so keep reading posts saying” this is why the NDP will get in” and it’s always because of something the UCP has done they don’t like or they believe the UCP is responsible for not because of something the NDP will do to improve Alberta

So to all of those who keep saying they are going to vote NDP out of anger towards the UCP please post what the NDP brings to the table that will benefit Alberta. Not interested in well “the UCP did this or Smith said this” only what you believe the NDP actually will do to improve Alberta

No talking crap on this thread and using it as a UCP vs NDP battle just straight up honest things you think the NDP will improve

I just want to understand the rationality
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Old 11-06-2022, 10:21 AM
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The NDP will promise handouts, they will spend money, and the people that benefit directly from that spending, will be happy. The problem is that the money has to come from somewhere, either we pay more taxes, or we go deeper in debt, and either way we lose in the long run. Unfortunately, that is how socialist governments work whether it's the NDP, or the liberals. Anyone that campaigns on responsible spending, will lose voters, because today's society wants handouts, and they don't care where the money comes from.
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The dippers won’t do squat to improve Alberta. Sure as hell didn’t last time.

DS and the wildrosies can’t attack healthcare and win. Simple as that. Vaccine butthurt is in the rear view mirror for most Albertans. Drop it.

If they don’t, NDP wins an easy victory in a campaign based on image. Just like the turd did. No one thought he was gonna do better things for Canada than Harper. It was all image.
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Yes guys but I am asking those who think they are going to vote NDP what are the benefits they personally see?

I keep hearing what the UCP or Smith has done that theses people don’t like but nothing about what people believe the NDP brings to the table
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Yes guys but I am asking those who think they are going to vote NDP what are the benefits they personally see?

I keep hearing what the UCP or Smith has done that theses people don’t like but nothing about what people believe the NDP brings to the table
That is usually how Canadian politics works. Vote against, not for.

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Yes guys but I am asking those who think they are going to vote NDP what are the benefits they personally see?

I keep hearing what the UCP or Smith has done that theses people don’t like but nothing about what people believe the NDP brings to the table
Nobody is going to admit to voting for the dippers.
If they win it will be because nobody voted for them. A lot of nobody’s
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That is usually how Canadian politics works. Vote against, not for.

All Rachet has to do is smile and be nice
Present voting style doesn’t seem to be beneficial to Canada does it
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Present voting style doesn’t seem to be beneficial to Canada does it
Not one bit.

Media bias, unelected judges, immigration to swing votes, bribery I mean lobbying…it’s all gone to hell. Resembles Rome, and we know how that ended.
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Yes guys but I am asking those who think they are going to vote NDP what are the benefits they personally see?

I keep hearing what the UCP or Smith has done that theses people don’t like but nothing about what people believe the NDP brings to the table

I think it will be a hard sell getting people on this forum to admit they are voting NDP.
I grew up in Victoria, so I do have a bit of the left inside of me. I did move to Alberta to be in a more conservative environment though.
I care about social issues - homelessness, drug addiction, health care, child care etc.
I also believe in maintaining rights, fiscal responsibility, natural resource utilization etc.

As of now I will continute to vote UCP.
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Old 11-06-2022, 11:04 AM
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Anyone thinking about voting NDP should remember all of the successful NDP governments other Canadian Provinces have elected. Has there ever been a "successful " NDP government that didn't leave their province in a financial mess? Anyone remember "Rae Days" in Ontario?
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Anyone thinking about voting NDP should remember all of the successful NDP governments other Canadian Provinces have elected. Has there ever been a "successful " NDP government that didn't leave their province in a financial mess? Anyone remember "Rae Days" in Ontario?
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After any NDP government is elected in, within a year you will never find any one who will admit to voting them unless there a school teacher or government employee !
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Regardless of who gets in, there will be opposition.

Certain people need government to have an active role in their lives. Some would rather not have government involved as much.

I think it comes down to what benefits people receive from certain governments. If it benefits THEM, all is ok.
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Regardless of who gets in, there will be opposition.

Certain people need government to have an active role in their lives. Some would rather not have government involved as much.

I think it comes down to what benefits people receive from certain governments. If it benefits THEM, all is ok.
That is about it, but as I tell progressive friends, remember in 20 years, you voted for your outcome, I'll be long gone. At some point you would think they would look at the future.
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That is about it, but as I tell progressive friends, remember in 20 years, you voted for your outcome, I'll be long gone. At some point you would think they would look at the future.
I do believe most are not looking to the future. They are all about the what can you give me now. If the NDP are so great, why didn't they stay in power in Alberta? They all promise, promise, promise and do not deliver for the most part. That is pretty much what they all bring to the table.
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It is really to bad that there is not a reasonable alternative to the UCP or the NDP. Perhaps in time, but highly unlikely in time for 2023. We are so hopelessly divided socially, politically, ethnically along highly questionable lines that a 3rd party would probably create further chaos. Until the large, silent non-voting majority gets involved, it seems we are destined to oscillate between these two parties.
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19 posts and the silence from the dippers is deafening. Will have to put on my noise cancelling ear muffs.
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I plan to vote NDP. Some things I like about what the Alberta NDP is proposing WITHOUT including the bazillion reasons why I won't be voting for a Smith-led UCP government.

-Focus on mental healthcare: the NDP have the most focus on pushing forward mental healthcare initiatives, and especially proactive resources available for folks LONG before they reach a mental breaking point that results in an extended hospital visit ($$$$), or harming themselves or others (also $$$$). It makes sense to me like seeing a dentist--if you are having a sore tooth, is it better if you go in for a check up and get it filled and perhaps learn better oral hygiene habits, or do you just try to fight through it until you've got a whole mouth of rotten teeth and a bad infection that winds up costing 10x as much to fix afterward? It's the same deal with mental healthcare--except a sore tooth is a mental health issue, and seeing a mental health professional for some help before you have a full blown episode that lands you in a long hospital visit and/or harming yourself and others.

-More over, everyone has been chiming in about how the NDP pumped tons of money into healthcare but nobody saw the better outcomes. It makes me think of a post from another thread where the user noted how a hospital is a 25 year process from first initiation to opening the doors--but what about for just a general hospital program, like implementing a new unit of specific care? How many years does that take to implement? 2? 3? 5? Especially when there is infrastructure that needs to be built? The NDP had four years before the UCP came into power and began pressing the brakes. Progress in healthcare takes a lot of money, but also takes a lot of time. Wait times in the ER are hard to improve when you need more infrastructure, personnel, equipment and programming to create it. You have to begin to spend money to begin the process of expanding healthcare, and you have to wait while the speed of progress occurs.

-Reversing cuts to our post secondary institutions (especially the U of A)--if for no other reason than it has causes substantial tuition hikes for domestic Albertan students. Student debt is already incredibly high and further saddling young people, who are already facing major housing affordability issues, that want to seek out higher education with even higher student debt loads is a bad road to be on.

-Really pushing our hydrogen industry development by a multitude of ways. I'm good to allow government to not get in the way of private industry development, but opening dialogue about supporting new research into hydrogen, supporting development of homegrown talent in the industry, creating incentive programs for larger hydrogen projects, and even working with industry on a possible hydrogen pipeline. Some pretty great stuff in an industry that is seeing big investment dollars, especially around Fort Sask.

-Early learning and childcare strategies. I don't have kids nor want kids but it's clear to me that prosperity in Alberta does rely on the ability for families to afford to raise children, and right now it's pretty damn expensive to do so. In conjunction with the Feds $10/day daycare, this could really assist families who want to have kids but are constantly delaying it (largely because they're trying to afford to own a home first). This also gives women more option to continue to enter the workforce and bring their valuable skills and ideas into our economy.

-Pushing broadband connectivity province wide. I unfortunately think this proposal is coming a bit late but the underlying concept of wanting all Albertans, especially those living rurally, to have proper connection to affordable and reliable high speed internet is critical in this day. Starlink has recently come in as a God send from the stone age satellite internet providers such as Xplornet who make you want to rip your hair out. Especially as remote work has become more and more prominent, this could really be a major boon to rural communities who can utilize the proper internet connectivity to work good remote jobs without worrying if their internet is suddenly going to flatline or lag during important online work.

Lastly, I noted this in another thread: Notley is an actual leader and she clearly has vision. Her party and supporters are behind her 100%. I don't agree with every single one of their policies nor politics but I like the conviction and how she does seem to genuinely care about Alberta and Albertans. She didn't pout off into the sunset after her party got whipped in the 2019 election, she got right back to work, and her party was right behind her with it.

Have a great day everyone! I can't wait to read all the replies calling me a dipper, a libtard, an idiot, how I want to kill this province, etc
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I plan to vote NDP. Some things I like about what the Alberta NDP is proposing WITHOUT including the bazillion reasons why I won't be voting for a Smith-led UCP government.

-Focus on mental healthcare: the NDP have the most focus on pushing forward mental healthcare initiatives, and especially proactive resources available for folks LONG before they reach a mental breaking point that results in an extended hospital visit ($$$$), or harming themselves or others (also $$$$). It makes sense to me like seeing a dentist--if you are having a sore tooth, is it better if you go in for a check up and get it filled and perhaps learn better oral hygiene habits, or do you just try to fight through it until you've got a whole mouth of rotten teeth and a bad infection that winds up costing 10x as much to fix afterward? It's the same deal with mental healthcare--except a sore tooth is a mental health issue, and seeing a mental health professional for some help before you have a full blown episode that lands you in a long hospital visit and/or harming yourself and others.

-More over, everyone has been chiming in about how the NDP pumped tons of money into healthcare but nobody saw the better outcomes. It makes me think of a post from another thread where the user noted how a hospital is a 25 year process from first initiation to opening the doors--but what about for just a general hospital program, like implementing a new unit of specific care? How many years does that take to implement? 2? 3? 5? Especially when there is infrastructure that needs to be built? The NDP had four years before the UCP came into power and began pressing the brakes. Progress in healthcare takes a lot of money, but also takes a lot of time. Wait times in the ER are hard to improve when you need more infrastructure, personnel, equipment and programming to create it. You have to begin to spend money to begin the process of expanding healthcare, and you have to wait while the speed of progress occurs.

-Reversing cuts to our post secondary institutions (especially the U of A)--if for no other reason than it has causes substantial tuition hikes for domestic Albertan students. Student debt is already incredibly high and further saddling young people, who are already facing major housing affordability issues, that want to seek out higher education with even higher student debt loads is a bad road to be on.

-Really pushing our hydrogen industry development by a multitude of ways. I'm good to allow government to not get in the way of private industry development, but opening dialogue about supporting new research into hydrogen, supporting development of homegrown talent in the industry, creating incentive programs for larger hydrogen projects, and even working with industry on a possible hydrogen pipeline. Some pretty great stuff in an industry that is seeing big investment dollars, especially around Fort Sask.

-Early learning and childcare strategies. I don't have kids nor want kids but it's clear to me that prosperity in Alberta does rely on the ability for families to afford to raise children, and right now it's pretty damn expensive to do so. In conjunction with the Feds $10/day daycare, this could really assist families who want to have kids but are constantly delaying it (largely because they're trying to afford to own a home first). This also gives women more option to continue to enter the workforce and bring their valuable skills and ideas into our economy.

-Pushing broadband connectivity province wide. I unfortunately think this proposal is coming a bit late but the underlying concept of wanting all Albertans, especially those living rurally, to have proper connection to affordable and reliable high speed internet is critical in this day. Starlink has recently come in as a God send from the stone age satellite internet providers such as Xplornet who make you want to rip your hair out. Especially as remote work has become more and more prominent, this could really be a major boon to rural communities who can utilize the proper internet connectivity to work good remote jobs without worrying if their internet is suddenly going to flatline or lag during important online work.

Lastly, I noted this in another thread: Notley is an actual leader and she clearly has vision. Her party and supporters are behind her 100%. I don't agree with every single one of their policies nor politics but I like the conviction and how she does seem to genuinely care about Alberta and Albertans. She didn't pout off into the sunset after her party got whipped in the 2019 election, she got right back to work, and her party was right behind her with it.

Have a great day everyone! I can't wait to read all the replies calling me a dipper, a libtard, an idiot, how I want to kill this province, etc
Thanks for an honest post and actually taking the time to have reasons for your choice outside of just not liking the opposition

I will not be making the same choice but respect you took the time to think yours over
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I plan to vote NDP. Some things I like about what the Alberta NDP is proposing WITHOUT including the bazillion reasons why I won't be voting for a Smith-led UCP government.

-Focus on mental healthcare: the NDP have the most focus on pushing forward mental healthcare initiatives, and especially proactive resources available for folks LONG before they reach a mental breaking point that results in an extended hospital visit ($$$$), or harming themselves or others (also $$$$). It makes sense to me like seeing a dentist--if you are having a sore tooth, is it better if you go in for a check up and get it filled and perhaps learn better oral hygiene habits, or do you just try to fight through it until you've got a whole mouth of rotten teeth and a bad infection that winds up costing 10x as much to fix afterward? It's the same deal with mental healthcare--except a sore tooth is a mental health issue, and seeing a mental health professional for some help before you have a full blown episode that lands you in a long hospital visit and/or harming yourself and others.

-More over, everyone has been chiming in about how the NDP pumped tons of money into healthcare but nobody saw the better outcomes. It makes me think of a post from another thread where the user noted how a hospital is a 25 year process from first initiation to opening the doors--but what about for just a general hospital program, like implementing a new unit of specific care? How many years does that take to implement? 2? 3? 5? Especially when there is infrastructure that needs to be built? The NDP had four years before the UCP came into power and began pressing the brakes. Progress in healthcare takes a lot of money, but also takes a lot of time. Wait times in the ER are hard to improve when you need more infrastructure, personnel, equipment and programming to create it. You have to begin to spend money to begin the process of expanding healthcare, and you have to wait while the speed of progress occurs.

-Reversing cuts to our post secondary institutions (especially the U of A)--if for no other reason than it has causes substantial tuition hikes for domestic Albertan students. Student debt is already incredibly high and further saddling young people, who are already facing major housing affordability issues, that want to seek out higher education with even higher student debt loads is a bad road to be on.

-Really pushing our hydrogen industry development by a multitude of ways. I'm good to allow government to not get in the way of private industry development, but opening dialogue about supporting new research into hydrogen, supporting development of homegrown talent in the industry, creating incentive programs for larger hydrogen projects, and even working with industry on a possible hydrogen pipeline. Some pretty great stuff in an industry that is seeing big investment dollars, especially around Fort Sask.

-Early learning and childcare strategies. I don't have kids nor want kids but it's clear to me that prosperity in Alberta does rely on the ability for families to afford to raise children, and right now it's pretty damn expensive to do so. In conjunction with the Feds $10/day daycare, this could really assist families who want to have kids but are constantly delaying it (largely because they're trying to afford to own a home first). This also gives women more option to continue to enter the workforce and bring their valuable skills and ideas into our economy.

-Pushing broadband connectivity province wide. I unfortunately think this proposal is coming a bit late but the underlying concept of wanting all Albertans, especially those living rurally, to have proper connection to affordable and reliable high speed internet is critical in this day. Starlink has recently come in as a God send from the stone age satellite internet providers such as Xplornet who make you want to rip your hair out. Especially as remote work has become more and more prominent, this could really be a major boon to rural communities who can utilize the proper internet connectivity to work good remote jobs without worrying if their internet is suddenly going to flatline or lag during important online work.

Lastly, I noted this in another thread: Notley is an actual leader and she clearly has vision. Her party and supporters are behind her 100%. I don't agree with every single one of their policies nor politics but I like the conviction and how she does seem to genuinely care about Alberta and Albertans. She didn't pout off into the sunset after her party got whipped in the 2019 election, she got right back to work, and her party was right behind her with it.

Have a great day everyone! I can't wait to read all the replies calling me a dipper, a libtard, an idiot, how I want to kill this province, etc
Appreciate your conviction! Some people get caught up in letters. ABC UPC NDP. it’s about what’s right for you. That’s all that matters.

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I plan to vote NDP. Some things I like about what the Alberta NDP is proposing WITHOUT including the bazillion reasons why I won't be voting for a Smith-led UCP government.

-Focus on mental healthcare: the NDP have the most focus on pushing forward mental healthcare initiatives, and especially proactive resources available for folks LONG before they reach a mental breaking point that results in an extended hospital visit ($$$$), or harming themselves or others (also $$$$). It makes sense to me like seeing a dentist--if you are having a sore tooth, is it better if you go in for a check up and get it filled and perhaps learn better oral hygiene habits, or do you just try to fight through it until you've got a whole mouth of rotten teeth and a bad infection that winds up costing 10x as much to fix afterward? It's the same deal with mental healthcare--except a sore tooth is a mental health issue, and seeing a mental health professional for some help before you have a full blown episode that lands you in a long hospital visit and/or harming yourself and others.

-More over, everyone has been chiming in about how the NDP pumped tons of money into healthcare but nobody saw the better outcomes. It makes me think of a post from another thread where the user noted how a hospital is a 25 year process from first initiation to opening the doors--but what about for just a general hospital program, like implementing a new unit of specific care? How many years does that take to implement? 2? 3? 5? Especially when there is infrastructure that needs to be built? The NDP had four years before the UCP came into power and began pressing the brakes. Progress in healthcare takes a lot of money, but also takes a lot of time. Wait times in the ER are hard to improve when you need more infrastructure, personnel, equipment and programming to create it. You have to begin to spend money to begin the process of expanding healthcare, and you have to wait while the speed of progress occurs.

-Reversing cuts to our post secondary institutions (especially the U of A)--if for no other reason than it has causes substantial tuition hikes for domestic Albertan students. Student debt is already incredibly high and further saddling young people, who are already facing major housing affordability issues, that want to seek out higher education with even higher student debt loads is a bad road to be on.

-Really pushing our hydrogen industry development by a multitude of ways. I'm good to allow government to not get in the way of private industry development, but opening dialogue about supporting new research into hydrogen, supporting development of homegrown talent in the industry, creating incentive programs for larger hydrogen projects, and even working with industry on a possible hydrogen pipeline. Some pretty great stuff in an industry that is seeing big investment dollars, especially around Fort Sask.

-Early learning and childcare strategies. I don't have kids nor want kids but it's clear to me that prosperity in Alberta does rely on the ability for families to afford to raise children, and right now it's pretty damn expensive to do so. In conjunction with the Feds $10/day daycare, this could really assist families who want to have kids but are constantly delaying it (largely because they're trying to afford to own a home first). This also gives women more option to continue to enter the workforce and bring their valuable skills and ideas into our economy.

-Pushing broadband connectivity province wide. I unfortunately think this proposal is coming a bit late but the underlying concept of wanting all Albertans, especially those living rurally, to have proper connection to affordable and reliable high speed internet is critical in this day. Starlink has recently come in as a God send from the stone age satellite internet providers such as Xplornet who make you want to rip your hair out. Especially as remote work has become more and more prominent, this could really be a major boon to rural communities who can utilize the proper internet connectivity to work good remote jobs without worrying if their internet is suddenly going to flatline or lag during important online work.

Lastly, I noted this in another thread: Notley is an actual leader and she clearly has vision. Her party and supporters are behind her 100%. I don't agree with every single one of their policies nor politics but I like the conviction and how she does seem to genuinely care about Alberta and Albertans. She didn't pout off into the sunset after her party got whipped in the 2019 election, she got right back to work, and her party was right behind her with it.

Have a great day everyone! I can't wait to read all the replies calling me a dipper, a libtard, an idiot, how I want to kill this province, etc
Just one question, where will the money come from to make those changes?
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Just one question, where will the money come from to make those changes?
Where does the money come from to do anything in this province?

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Where does the money come from to do anything in this province?

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Exactly my point tax money, and if you want to spend more, you need more revenue, which means higher taxes that many people can't afford, with high inflation, and all of the existing taxes. Or they borrow the money, and then they have to increase taxes to pay it back. Either way, it's money that many people can't afford.
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So to all of those who keep saying they are going to vote NDP out of anger towards the UCP please post what the NDP brings to the table that will benefit Alberta. Not interested in well “the UCP did this or Smith said this” only what you believe the NDP actually will do to improve Alberta

No talking crap on this thread and using it as a UCP vs NDP battle just straight up honest things you think the NDP will improve

I just want to understand the rationality
1. Better collaboration and dialogue with Ottawa and other provinces. I love Alberta, but I would say that I am Canadian first.

2. They attempt to balance resource development with environmental initiatives

3. Better protection of natural areas. I think this is important in what seems like an ever shrinking world. As an example, our family uses the new Castle provincial Park a lot.

4. I think that Rachel Notley is intelligent and competent. Several years ago I ran Melissa’s Road Race (Half marathon in Banff). At the start line, I there was a lady beside me and I thought, “Wow! She sure looks like Rachel Notley… Damn! It is Rachel Notley!” Anyway, she had hired a trainer and worked towards running a half marathon at almost 60 years old. She ran a great time too. I was impressed.

To be clear, there are lots of things that I don’t like as well. And a lot of things that I really just don’t know. Like, do certain provincial policies matter when an American president can, with the swipe of his pen, veto a pipeline on his first day in office?

To be honest, I hate how democracies are designed on dividing up the population. It’s the best political system that we’ve made so far, but it’s still a crap system. Perhaps AI will fix that for us in a couple hundred years! Lol! I guess I’m just trying to pick the perceived lesser of two evils.
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Exactly my point tax money, and if you want to spend more, you need more revenue, which means higher taxes that many people can't afford, with high inflation, and all of the existing taxes. Or they borrow the money, and then they have to increase taxes to pay it back. Either way, it's money that many people can't afford.
In 2015 I was upset with the NDP win. 7.5 years later we’re all still here. The UCP haven’t done a whole hell of a lot during their tenure. Pandemic aside they’ve been a huge disservice and disappointment. DS is flogging a dead horse.

The federal NDP aren’t the mother of Alberta’s NDP. Imagine if the Alberta NDP decided to do a name change (just like the conservatives did to the UCP). Say the called themselves the Alberta first party. Same people same care about Alberta and Albertans view. Wound that make a difference for you.

47 of the past 52 years this province has seen conservative rule. Our we really any better off for it?

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1. Better collaboration and dialogue with Ottawa and other provinces. I love Alberta, but I would say that I am Canadian first.

2. They attempt to balance resource development with environmental initiatives

3. Better protection of natural areas. I think this is important in what seems like an ever shrinking world. As an example, our family uses the new Castle provincial Park a lot.

4. I think that Rachel Notley is intelligent and competent. Several years ago I ran Melissa’s Road Race (Half marathon in Banff). At the start line, I there was a lady beside me and I thought, “Wow! She sure looks like Rachel Notley… Damn! It is Rachel Notley!” Anyway, she had hired a trainer and worked towards running a half marathon at almost 60 years old. She ran a great time too. I was impressed.

To be clear, there are lots of things that I don’t like as well. And a lot of things that I really just don’t know. Like, do certain provincial policies matter when an American president can, with the swipe of his pen, veto a pipeline on his first day in office?

To be honest, I hate how democracies are designed on dividing up the population. It’s the best political system that we’ve made so far, but it’s still a crap system. Perhaps AI will fix that for us in a couple hundred years! Lol! I guess I’m just trying to pick the perceived lesser of two evils.

I'm curious if there was something stopping you and your family from enjoying the Castle area prior to the NDP?
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In 2015 I was upset with the NDP win. 7.5 years later we’re all still here. The UCP haven’t done a whole hell of a lot during their tenure. Pandemic aside they’ve been a huge disservice and disappointment. DS is flogging a dead horse.

The federal NDP aren’t the mother of Alberta’s NDP. Imagine if the Alberta NDP decided to do a name change (just like the conservatives did to the UCP). Say the called themselves the Alberta first party. Same people same care about Alberta and Albertans view. Wound that make a difference for you.

47 of the past 52 years this province has seen conservative rule. Our we really any better off for it?

BW
Actually they are. Provincial NDP parties are under the umbrella of the federal party, it's all in the charter (or whatever you would call it). My understanding is that the provincial must do as the federal dictates.
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