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12-06-2013, 09:21 AM
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Crossbow faster than compound bow?
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12-06-2013, 09:29 AM
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Depends... on the xbow and the compound... comparing apples to oranges...
one is drawn with muscle powere and the the other if faster is drawn with aid of a mechanical device...
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12-06-2013, 11:45 AM
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 There already is crossbows breaking the 400FPS speed barrier...however as nekred stated..its still a crossbow...many think they are like a rifle for accuracy and distance...crossbows are still only as accurate as the nut behind the string and basically same distance as a bow...
There are bows out there plenty fast at 360 FPS and they are bows and as accurate as any crossbow...
Not sure what your point is?
JMHO
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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow
There already is crossbows breaking the 400FPS speed barrier...however as nekred stated..its still a crossbow...many think they are like a rifle for accuracy and distance...crossbows are still only as accurate as the nut behind the string and basically same distance as a bow...
There are bows out there plenty fast at 360 FPS and they are bows and as accurate as any crossbow...
Not sure what your point is?
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My HCA Speed Pro is capable of spitting an arrow out over 400fps....and warranties below 5gpp....but it's a pretty light arrow!
I just can't believe how loud most x-bows are!
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12-06-2013, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
My HCA Speed Pro is capable of spitting an arrow out over 400fps....and warranties below 5gpp....but it's a pretty light arrow!
I just can't believe how loud most x-bows are!
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I second the question "what is the point ?".
Crossbows to Oranges ?
1 sight pin that covers 100 yards ?
At this distance you should be thinking black powder and a scope.
If you can't hit where your are aiming, you wont do squat or will do worse.
No matter what you shoot with.
Example...
If you cant down em with a gun, then dont begin to think
you can do it with a crossbow just because it get you more time in the field.
It don't work like that.
Fellow AO members please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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12-07-2013, 11:30 AM
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Depends... on the xbow and the compound... comparing apples to oranges...
one is drawn with muscle powere and the the other if faster is drawn with aid of a mechanical device...
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......that can only be drawn with muscle power. There is no magical diesel operated, solar controlled crossbow cocking device.
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12-09-2013, 08:34 AM
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......that can only be drawn with muscle power. There is no magical diesel operated, solar controlled crossbow cocking device.
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No but there are battery operated cocking devices and hand crank devices that draw the crossbow with no muscle power...hence rules those crossbows out ?...lol the debate is endless on that question..
JMHO
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12-09-2013, 02:45 PM
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Depends... on the xbow and the compound... comparing apples to oranges...
one is drawn with muscle powere and the the other if faster is drawn with aid of a mechanical device...
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not entirely true . you don't need to be able to draw a bow any more you can just use one of these ...
http://www.lockadraw.com/
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not entirely true . you don't need to be able to draw a bow any more you can just use one of these ...
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speechless.....but after reading the comments on the site, nice to see to many "injured" people still wanting to shoot a bow for hunting.
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speechless.....but after reading the comments on the site, nice to see to many "injured" people still wanting to shoot a bow for hunting.
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Don't get me wrong I am not advocating one way or the other . but I am making the observation that the idea of archery has become pretty convoluted in the past number of years . Nothing remotely close to what Saxton Pope and Arthur young probably had in mind when they thought about Bow hunting. The argument that the Crossbow is somehow less legitimate is becoming , well... less legitimate as time goes on.
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not entirely true . you don't need to be able to draw a bow any more you can just use one of these ...
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As good as it to see gear like that...and its been around for a while...Just a heads up....this would classify any bow with this attachment in the same catogory as a crossbow and in sence is...
Alberta Bowhunting regulations specifies an authorized bow that is drawn, held and released by muscular power with draw weight no less than 40 lb...
In the 70's and early 80's when the vast majority of us were finger shooters we had a debate over wether a release would classify as muscular power, most of us said it wasnt, most were against it until we tried a release and saw its improvement on accuracy and efficentcy....
Later the release was classified as still muscle power, good to go debate over.
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I think guys are reading to much into this question. The simple answer is yes the fastest crossbows are faster that the fastest compounds.
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12-07-2013, 10:06 AM
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I have an Excalibur Exomax that'll fling a bolt at 350 fps. The fastest crossbow on the Excalibur site is the Excalibur Matrix 380 Xtra at 380 fps. The PSE Tac Elite seems to be the one that most people identify with as one of the fastest crossbows and they advertise speeds between 405 - 395 fps.
I think that would be a pretty good comparison starting point.
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I think guys are reading to much into this question. The simple answer is yes the fastest crossbows are faster that the fastest compounds.
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Thats a trick answer...the fastest crossbows are only as fast as the fastest compounds at the same speed...there is compounds as fast as crossbows ans more accurate....compare 250-300 lb pull to 70-80 lb for speed....compounds rule....
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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow
Thats a trick answer...the fastest crossbows are only as fast as the fastest compounds at the same speed...there is compounds as fast as crossbows ans more accurate....compare 250-300 lb pull to 70-80 lb for speed....compounds rule....
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I did not intend that to be a trick answer. A simple google search shows the fastest compound bow to be the PSE omen at 366fps and not getting to deep into crossbows the barnette ghost410 is listed at 410 fps. This is what some one can go to a store and buy. How they make there speed is different for sure but this is the bottom line. The biggest difference is most people could shoot a 400 fps crossbow accurately and very few could handle a 360 fps compound.
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Originally Posted by Stinkhammer
I did not intend that to be a trick answer. A simple google search shows the fastest compound bow to be the PSE omen at 366fps and not getting to deep into crossbows the barnette ghost410 is listed at 410 fps. This is what some one can go to a store and buy. How they make there speed is different for sure but this is the bottom line. The biggest difference is most people could shoot a 400 fps crossbow accurately and very few could handle a 360 fps compound.
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Is the crossbow bolt at IBO of 5gr per pound at 70lbs?
To compare things we need to know a few things...like the arrow weight vs bolt weight etc....
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12-08-2013, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Is the crossbow bolt at IBO of 5gr per pound at 70lbs?
To compare things we need to know a few things...like the arrow weight vs bolt weight etc....
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I am getting sucked into the black hole debate that is crossbow so this is my last coment on this subject . The compondunds have warinty to 5 grains per pound or Ibo and crossbows are much less but designed for it. I guess High country makes a bow that is able to shoot there super arrow (3 grains per pound or something) at or near 400 fps which is still slower than production crossbows. You can not have an apple to apple comparison crossbows are simply faster.
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nevermind.
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