New Helmet Law Passed

[raab]

Originally Posted by fitzy

Oh I agree with you about the drunk guy being punished.


I have to wonder what the percentage of riders doing 10-15kph is though. I'm betting it's low. You don't need big machines to go slow. You guys need to realize the law isn't aimed at you. It's aimed at some 17 year old kid on a 1000cc machine who doesn't know what he's doing.

If hunters were on the no helmet list would many of you be upset? Aside from the people who are mad for race or religious reasons.

Yes, because I want to figure out how the 17 year old on a 1000cc quad isnt going to hurt anyone else and give him some education so that maybe he doesnt hurt himself. Id rather prevent the accident all together, then say hey he's wearing a helmet, hes safe. Helmets arent the be all end all, Ive seen more then a few cracked open on riders that havent made it.

[LKILR]

Originally Posted by fargineyesore

Well some of us don't need the government to look after us. Furthermore why do you continue to refuse to answer the question as to why its okay for some to be exempted? If this is for safety, why is it safe for a Native person, Turban wearing person, farmer, rancher, or someone out on a job to not use a helmet.

This is just another attack on recreational OHV riders, disguised as safety. When are people going to start telling the government to butt the hell out of our lives, and don't even start with the "pay your own medical bills then" argument, as then we better say the same things about many other activities people do, but you consistently refuse to acknowledge that.

I don't like being told how to live my life anymore than the next guy. There should be no exemptions. Everyone wears em or else the law need not be. Never mind the medical bills. Imagine if you were injured and or fatally injured. Would you want the burden of your loved ones to either find you deceased or take care of your vegetable state for the rest of their lives. Personally I think it should be your own choice.

[Talking moose]

Helmets should be mandatory on jumps over 200ft in length or height. No exceptions. Farmers, natives, or recreational users.

[claystone]

Wait until a few more deaths then it will be 16 years of age, mandatory training certificate oh and a helmet.

[guywiththemule]

Originally Posted by claystone

Wait until a few more deaths then it will be 16 years of age, mandatory training certificate oh and a helmet.

Except Sikh`s and redheads and plumbers !!!

[D4l3k]

well since this is law today, and i wanna go riding this may long legally

just picked up at the big boot biker store in edmonton west end

half helm dot approved 3xl on sale for 50$

this is the cheapest i found online or instore for a dot approved half helm

[antlerguy]

Maybe everybody driving a vehicle should wear a helmet. we wouldn't want to pay for head injuries concerning this individuals. A bubbled wrap society.

[rca]

it isn't about safety

it's about political correctness

cause if it was about safety, then they would be enacting laws to address the actual problem

children, who shouldn't be operating them when under 16, or really when they're too small and weak to handle them

they'd stop allowing the registration of the "now" basically jeep like style, which btw, will be exempt, cause they got a roll cage/seat-belt

you have small vehicles now, before you had, quads, 400/500's

you might as well be driving a jeep in the bush with some of what's out there now

and safety, again, look at the stats

30% of the people WEARING a helmet, still died, why cause they rolled a 800lb machine on themselves, sure their head was still there, but they still died

how many were involved with more than one person on a quad? again, not designed for that, you can't legislate stupidity, helmets won't help

also a high % of those hurt/that die, it happened on PRIVATE LAND, which again, is exempt

and a lot of those injured/killed, were CHILDREN

try start charging the parents, on private land or public, they don't have the balls to enact a law for that

sorry, but if you're going to enact a law, it either applies to all or none
when it comes to adults

otherwise, your argument about safety is moot

[^v^Tinda wolf^v^]

If I buy another machine I'm going to wear my wife's lame scarf on my head. Equal rights and treatment for everyone or non at all, my religion consist of a ball cap. A movement must be started...

[tundraltd]

Originally Posted by robson3954

Nanny state blah blah blah. It's tax dollars that are being used when you're drooling, being spoon fed and pooping in your diapers.

Ya know some people not all though change there minds about helmets when they have to phone or even just watch stars peels someone's head out of the dirt as there wife and kids watch there husband/dad fly away never to return.

[tacomama]

YES, it is all about safety, for everyone.....
Just more BS laws that certain groups are exempt from that the rest of the sheeple will follow.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by ^v^Tinda wolf^v^

If I buy another machine I'm going to wear my wife's lame scarf on my head. Equal rights and treatment for everyone or non at all, my religion consist of a ball cap. A movement must be started...

I put some thought into it and decided it's easier to pack around feather attached to a big elastic band. LOL.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

I put some thought into it and decided it's easier to pack around feather attached to a big elastic band. LOL.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by D4l3k

well since this is law today, and i wanna go riding this may long legally

just picked up at the big boot biker store in edmonton west end

half helm dot approved 3xl on sale for 50$

this is the cheapest i found online or instore for a dot approved half helm

neat... is it csa approved?

https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?x...71FEF5AC8A5A6E

says it needs to be csa

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

neat... is it csa approved?

https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?x...71FEF5AC8A5A6E

says it needs to be csa

That information is not correct.

https://www.transportation.alberta.c...elmets-FAQ.pdf


CSA Standard CAN3
-
D230
-
M85, Protective Headgear i
n Motor Vehicle Applications;

Standard No. 218; Motorcycle helmets under Part 571.218 of the Code of Federal
Regulations (United States), Title 49;

British Standards Institution Standard BS 6658: 1985, Specification for protective helmets for
vehicle users
;

Snell Memorial Foundation 2000 or 2005 or 2010 Standard For Protective Headgear, For
Use with Motorcycles and Other Motorized Vehicles; and

United Nations Economic Commission for Europe Regulation 22
-
05, Uniform provisions
concerning the approval of
protective helmets and their visors for drivers and passengers of
motorcycles and mopeds.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by ^v^Tinda wolf^v^

If I buy another machine I'm going to wear my wife's lame scarf on my head..

Remember to post the pics!!!

And that's not much of a step up from you wearing her camisole when she's out. LOL

[cardshark]

Jesus these helmets are expensive. A turban would be much cheaper...

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by cardshark

Jesus these helmets are expensive. A turban would be much cheaper...

As one of my friends used to say, if you have a $500 head, then buy a $500 helmet, if you have a $50 head, buy a $50 helmet.

[The Flint&Fly Guy]

I can understand why this upsets people, but if your gonna get the government to pay for your healthcare it makes sense to me that they are going to make rules to try to reduce their expense.


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[cardshark]

Originally Posted by The Flint&Fly Guy

I can understand why this upsets people, but if your gonna get the government to pay for your healthcare it makes sense to me that they are going to make rules to try to reduce their expense.

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Great when do they outlaw smoking, drinking, eating too much sugar, not exercising, and having children that you can't afford to support? It sounds like our taxes will be going down shortly!

[fargineyesore]

So why don't they require figure skaters to wear helmets, or horse riders, or skiiers?

I have read about more than a few skiiers killing themselves by smacking a tree?

Why are they not making them wear a helmet if if is to reduce health care costs?

Funny NOT ONE person has been able to answer that with a straight face.

[The Flint&Fly Guy]

Hey I'm not saying they're doing a good job of it! Or that I like it any better than the next guy.


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[D4l3k]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

That information is not correct.

https://www.transportation.alberta.c...elmets-FAQ.pdf

this is DOT approved -> Standard No. 218; Motorcycle helmets under Part 571.218 of the Code of Federal
Regulations (United States), Title 49;

[bat119]

We've had the law in Sask for a few years might as well have some fun with it. We go quading with a few Vikings, Nazi's and the latest is the demon helmet my buddy picked up in Vegas. Don't forget the orange cover for hunting season.


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[270person]

Originally Posted by cardshark

Great when do they outlaw smoking, drinking,

You hit on a couple of good points. Quadders could be taxed at the time of purchase at exactly the same rate as cigarettes and booze.

Current cig tax is 16.475 cents per cigarette so a 25 pack sell price of ballpark $ 16.00 included $ 4.12 in taxes. Roughly 25%.

Your new $ 10,000.00 quad is now $ 12,500 going out the dealership door.

Fair?

[Joe Black]

Law didn't go far enough. FOot travel and horseback riders should also be required to wear helmets on public land.

And be enclosed in bubblewrap.

[huntsfurfish]

New helmet law.

Oh the horror.

[Unregistered user]

With mandatory helmet use on public lands, given the ATV is insured and registered, it should be allowed on gravel roads. That would be fair.

[alta270]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

With mandatory helmet use on public lands, given the ATV is insured and registered, it should be allowed on gravel roads. That would be fair.

What a great idea. Now, why not lobby your favorite politicians to have them promote that idea. Or, better yet, join one of the user groups that will support your idea as policy.

Let us know how you make out with the later. I'm pretty sure you will have no luck with the former.

[bat119]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

With mandatory helmet use on public lands, given the ATV is insured and registered, it should be allowed on gravel roads. That would be fair.

You would need a street legal quad, signal lights etc.